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NG not ICE, but related.

A man was arrested for playing Darth Vader's theme music, "The Imperial March," behind National Guard troops walking through Logan Circle. Now the ACLU is suing on his behalf.

From the filing:

4. The law might have tolerated government conduct of this sort a long time ago in a galaxy
far, far away. But in the here and now, the First Amendment bars government officials from
shutting down peaceful protests, and the Fourth Amendment (along with the District’s prohibition
on false arrest) bars groundless seizures




Here is a vid. When I first saw this several weeks ago, I thought it was fake, just the music imposed on top of the video, but he was actually following them around.

 
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Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino accused of violating restraining order by throwing tear gas in Little Village



Greg Bovino Immediately Flouts Chicago Court Order, Lawyers Say

 
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Judge Sara Ellis is allowing the deposition of Border Patrol boss Greg Bovino to expand to FIVE hours (she'd limited it to 2), and she wants to hear about use of force by CBP in Little Village this week.

Plus a reminder to "preserve all body-worn camera footage."

 
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Democrats are fed up with ICE traumatizing kids at schools

 
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US Citizen Dragged From Car by Border Patrol in Chicago


A Chicago woman has told Newsweek she was "forcibly removed" from her vehicle by federal immigration agents.

Dayanne Figueroa, a U.S. citizen and paralegal, said an unmarked government vehicle struck her car at the 1600 block of West Hubbard Street in Chicago on the morning of October 10, while she was on her way to get coffee before going to work.

"I was in shock and terrified," Figueroa told Newsweek. "Instead of handling the situation as a routine traffic incident, the masked agents, armed in hands, forcibly removed me from my car without questions and without informing me that I was under arrest."

Let's see the pathetic excuses from trump supporters for this one.

And before they repeat the lies being proffered by a DHS spokesnazi that "Figueroa's vehicle blocked agents and struck an unmarked government vehicle.", the video showing the Ice scumbags doing a U-turn in the middle of the road and hitting the victims car can be seen as plain as day in the video on the page.

The paralegal said she was transported to multiple undisclosed locations and was not allowed to contact her family or legal counsel. She said she was never charged with a crime or informed of a legal reason for her detention.

That's what fascism looks like.
 
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Looking to speed up building network of migrant detention centers, Trump administration turns to the US Navy

The Department of Homeland Security is funneling $10 billion through the Navy to help facilitate the construction of a sprawling network of migrant detention centers across the US in an arrangement aimed at getting the centers built faster, according to sources and federal contracting documents.

Construction on some of the facilities is set to begin as soon as next month, one of the sources familiar with the project told CNN.

The contracting program, which has not been previously reported, is a joint effort between DHS and the Defense Department and leans on the Navy’s Supply Systems Command as a contracting arm to hire companies for construction and maintenance of the detention facilities.

The new detention centers are likely to be primarily soft-sided tents and may or may not be built on existing Navy installations, according to the sources familiar with the initiative. DHS has often leaned on soft-sided facilities to manage influxes of migrants.

One of the sources said the goal is for the facilities to house as many as 10,000 people each, and are expected to be built in Louisiana, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Utah and Kansas. Additional details about the facilities remain unclear, as the contracting process is still ongoing.

An uptick in immigration arrests has required more detention space to hold people for processing and potentially deportation. ICE, which also uses local jails to hold people, was previously funded for around 41,000 beds to temporarily house detainees. White House border czar Tom Homan has said he wants to double that number of detention beds—and fast.

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Basically there are two main positions on Immigration law. Those who want safety and secuirty of borders but also law and order in society. Then there are the radical Marxist ideologues who want open borders and defund the police as they believe there should be no borders and law and order is oppression.

They oppose government power to enforce laws and want a free for all in the name of a DEI utopia. Pie in the sky stuff. Its often decends into violence because if we look at all the groups who have this ideology they end up using terror to achieve the destruction of the percieved oppressors.

ICE is seen as an arm of the oppressor Trump who is a Nazi and fascists that must be stopped. Just applying the normal law enforcement that any rational society would apply to keep their borders safe is deemed as oppression and therefore this must be met with terror.

Its more or less the same ideology as Islamists. Except rather than a Caliphate and Sharia law or bringing about Allahs rule. The Marxists ideologues want a Socialist utopia of some sort where all outcomes are equal. BUt both percieve the world as there being oppressors and infidels that must be stopped with violence and terror.

They see the world as oppressors and victims so every action against the percieved oppressed which includes terrorist groups and harden criminals and organisations is seen as oppression and must be met with terror.

They have the perfect army in that many are already criminals, gangs, organised crime and terror groups that are utilising the deluded western ideologues who fall for all this ideological thinking. The two have some weird cojoining like we see with groups like Queers for Palestine and Hamas. Its a strange phenomena.

But their common hate for all things western, whites, Jews and Christians unites them.
Why not a third option? You know like Reagan? Where the GOP has a heart and wants to boost the economy by granting amnesty to working aliens that have been here for some years? I imagine most Americans support this. There is a Florida Congresswoman that put together a package to allow them to work, but never receive citizenship. They pay a 7,000 fee and they can apply from within the USA if approved. That is far better than Trump's plan, though I think that they should be allowed citizenship at some point.

There are other options too like one that promoted a common market for the USA similar to that of the EU. A NAFTA area where you could live anywhere in USA, Canada or Mexico, freely if a non-criminal. No real need for new citizenship either, just vote in your home nation. Proposed in the 1990s by some, it would have prevented border, immigration and many drug issues today. It would have expanded Nafta at the expense of others. It would be a powerful regional block that could extend USA/NAFTA influence well into the future.
In a way Trump has this vision, he just wants to bring in Canada or Greenland though and merge them as a U.S. state. But that is not what Canada wants and I doubt Mexico either. Instead, we will just sanction ourselves with more Canadian tariffs because an ad upsets the President. Ironic though because since Trump claims he needs those emergency tariff powers as they will argue in court in Nov., the truth really is that most tariffs are just personal deals that Trump is not principled about or has any serious economic basis.
 
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Here is a vid. When I first saw this several weeks ago, I thought it was fake, just the music imposed on top of the video, but he was actually following them around.
Thanks for the video. He should have been arrested and detained for at least 3 weeks. He created or was creating a risk to known and/or unknown people. He was not, he is not , innocent of guilt.
 
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Thanks for the video. He should have been arrested and detained for at least 3 weeks. He created or was creating a risk to known and/or unknown people. He was not, he is not , innocent of guilt.
Oh yes, that well known crime of playing music we don't like. :doh:
 
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