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[David Lamb]

What makes you think that sundials have been adjusted ?

Prodromos has already written: "From the same wikipedia article you quoted from:
Since the Greek dials were nodus-based with straight hour-lines, they indicated unequal hours that varied with the seasons, since every day was divided into twelve equal segments; hours were shorter in winter and longer in summer. Sundials with gnomons oriented towards the celestial pole are able to exploit the fact that the markings for the equinoctial hours are a family of straight-line segments, thereby allowing for the measure of equal hours." Then in another post:
"If they didn't adjust, it meant that the hours during Winter could be as short as 40 minutes and the hours during Summer could be as long as 80 minutes for the same shadow movement".

 

[Apple Sky]

I agree. It also seems to me, as a non-scientist, that a flat earth does not explain why it is summer in the UK at the same time as it is winter in Australia, and vice versa.

The sun spirals above us, in and out from the center to the outer edges (Antarctica), so depending where the sun is at in the sky, will determine the summer or winter in different locations, as this shows:

 

[Apple Sky]

Prodromos has already written: "From the same wikipedia article you quoted from:
Since the Greek dials were nodus-based with straight hour-lines, they indicated unequal hours that varied with the seasons, since every day was divided into twelve equal segments; hours were shorter in winter and longer in summer. Sundials with gnomons oriented towards the celestial pole are able to exploit the fact that the markings for the equinoctial hours are a family of straight-line segments, thereby allowing for the measure of equal hours." Then in another post:
"If they didn't adjust, it meant that the hours during Winter could be as short as 40 minutes and the hours during Summer could be as long as 80 minutes for the same shadow movement".

This doesn't tell me when they were adjusted or how.

 

[David Lamb]

The sun spirals above us, in and out from the center to the outer edges (Antarctica), so depending where the sun is at in the sky, will determine the summer or winter in different locations, as this shows:

But that is not what we observe. We don't see the sun spiralling in and out from the centre. (I am not going to discuss at the moment the matter of you claiming that Antarctic is at the centre of the earth). Neither does that explain the 24 hours of sunlight at the poles at certain times of the year.

 

[David Lamb]

This doesn't tell me when they were adjusted or how.

No, but it does explain why they needed to be adjusted.

 

[Apple Sky]

(I am not going to discuss at the moment the matter of you claiming that Antarctic is at the centre of the earth)

I never said it was at the center of earth, the Antarctica is the outer ring of the earth that circumferences the earth.
The earth is like a pizza with an upturned edge.

Auguste Piccard describe the earth as flat with upturned edges.

 

[Apple Sky]

No, but it does explain why they needed to be adjusted.

Only going by what @prodromos said.

He said the sundials had to be adjusted this is what prodromos quoted;

Of course this is all moot because sundials do have to have adjustments made in order to match clock time, thus you have just debunked yourself, proving the earth is not flat.

 

[Apple Sky]

The so-called minister , where? - in New Orleans, a false teacher, teaching a false gospel for years, is not to be trusted nor listened to any more at all.

You mean Dean Odle from Alabama ? I have no qualms with Dean & I reckon him to be a very good Pastor, who dotes on Jeasus & God's word.

 

[Apple Sky]

The Ancient cosmology is still true to this day, God does not lie & remains true to his words & they will never change.

 

[David Lamb]

I never said it was at the center of earth, the Antarctica is the outer ring of the earth that circumferences the earth.
The earth is like a pizza with an upturned edge.

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Auguste Piccard describe the earth as flat with upturned edges.

Sorry, I misunderstood your words: "from the center to the outer edges (Antarctica)" as Antarctica being the centre/center. I do not agree that Antarctica circumferences the earth. People have visited Antarctica, sailed and flown around Antarctica. Nobody has reported being prevented from reaching the South Pole by an enormous ice wall. Indeed there are people who actually live on Anatarctica at least for part of the year:

"There are around 66 scientific bases in Antarctica, of which about 37 are occupied year round, the remainder are open during the summer and closed down for winter. There are about 4,000 people through the summer months and about 1,000 overwinter each year."

They couldn't do that if Antarctica were nothing more than the upturned edges of a flat earth, like the edges of what you call a pizza, but a pizza is flat - I think your picture looks more like a quiche, but that's just a minor detail.

Any way, sorry again for misunderstanding.

 

[Apple Sky]

People have visited Antarctica, sailed and flown around Antarctica. Nobody has reported being prevented from reaching the South Pole by an enormous ice wall.

People have visited a small section of Antarctica, mostly the outer islands. People/Tourists are not allowed to go any further in, or get any further in b/c of the ice walls.

"There are around 66 scientific bases in Antarctica, of which about 37 are occupied year round, the remainder are open during the summer and closed down for winter.

Yes - Military & Scientific bases.

I think your picture looks more like a quiche, .

Any way, sorry again for misunderstanding.

No probem

 

[d taylor]

I agree. It also seems to me, as a non-scientist, that a flat earth does not explain why it is summer in the UK at the same time as it is winter in Australia, and vice versa.

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Why because the sun has moved over closer to the center of God's creation and the same goes for summer in Australia. The sun has moved closer to outer the circumference of God's creation.

Only a moving and close sun could cause these small (90 to 30) temperature swings .

A stationary sun 93 million miles away and an earth tilt is certainly not the cause of this. You can believe this if you want to though.

 

[David Lamb]

People have visited a small section of Antarctica, mostly the outer islands. People/Tourists are not allowed to go any further in, or get any further in b/c of the ice walls.

That just is not so. There are many explorers who have crossed Antarctica, and have not been prevented from doing to by a wall of ice. Here is a photo of part of the coast of Antarctica. As you will see, no ice wall:

Yes - Military & Scientific bases.

Whether they are military and scientific bases, or community centres where people go to meet together, makes no difference. None of them report having to climb up and over an immense wall of ice.

No probem

 

[Apple Sky]

Whether they are military and scientific bases, or community centres where people go to meet together, makes no difference. None of them report having to climb up and over an immense wall of ice.

The Ice walls are much further in & why don't they fly over Antarctica ?

4 Reasons Planes Don't Fly Over Antarctica - Aero Corner

Once upon a time, long flights were rare and were relegated to the realm of the rich and famous or matters of international importance. Long flight routes were limited, and the prices higher. Now long flight routes are common and affordable, but why don't planes fly over Antarctica? Why Don't…

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[Hentenza]

The Ice walls are much further in & why don't they fly over Antarctica ?

4 Reasons Planes Don't Fly Over Antarctica - Aero Corner

Once upon a time, long flights were rare and were relegated to the realm of the rich and famous or matters of international importance. Long flight routes were limited, and the prices higher. Now long flight routes are common and affordable, but why don't planes fly over Antarctica? Why Don't…

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There you go. You can book a flight any time.

THE SOUTHERNMOST POINT ON EARTH​

Embark on a flight to the South Pole, where all 360 lines of longitude meet and in a few steps you can walk around the world.
History comes alive as you stand at 90° South, the ultimate goal of polar explorers Amundsen and Scott. Imagine how it felt to head out across the frozen continent and into the unknown over 100 years ago. Feel the spirit of determination and discovery that has inspired a century of Antarctic exploration and scientific research.
Outside Amundsen-Scott Station, you’ll have plenty of time for photographs at the Ceremonial Pole, surrounded by the flags of the Antarctic Treaty signatory nations. A journey to the South Pole is a significant achievement for any world traveler and you’ll feel the power of this special place. Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions is proud to be the premier provider for South Pole flights.

South Pole Flights - Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions

Flights to the South Pole

antarctic-logistics.com

 

[Apple Sky]

There you go. You can book a flight any time.

THE SOUTHERNMOST POINT ON EARTH​

Embark on a flight to the South Pole, where all 360 lines of longitude meet and in a few steps you can walk around the world.
History comes alive as you stand at 90° South, the ultimate goal of polar explorers Amundsen and Scott. Imagine how it felt to head out across the frozen continent and into the unknown over 100 years ago. Feel the spirit of determination and discovery that has inspired a century of Antarctic exploration and scientific research.
Outside Amundsen-Scott Station, you’ll have plenty of time for photographs at the Ceremonial Pole, surrounded by the flags of the Antarctic Treaty signatory nations. A journey to the South Pole is a significant achievement for any world traveler and you’ll feel the power of this special place. Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions is proud to be the premier provider for South Pole flights.

South Pole Flights - Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions

Flights to the South Pole

antarctic-logistics.com

They can fly you too Antarctica but they wont fly over it & then you must book a special charter flight as part of a package tour, typically from South America, which lands on King George Island. These flights are highly susceptible to weather delays and are only available during the Antarctic summer season, from November to March.

The extreme cold, powerful winds, lack of infrastructure, and strict ETOPS regulations (which require twin-engine planes to be within a certain flight time of an emergency airport) make flying over Antarctica risky for commercial carriers. While commercial flights can land at specific scientific and military bases in Antarctica, they avoid flying over the continent because there are no suitable emergency landing strips in the vast, uninhabited interio

 

[Hentenza]

They can fly you too Antarctica but they wont fly over it & then you must book a special charter flight as part of a package tour, typically from South America, which lands on King George Island. These flights are highly susceptible to weather delays and are only available during the Antarctic summer season, from November to March.

The extreme cold, powerful winds, lack of infrastructure, and strict ETOPS regulations (which require twin-engine planes to be within a certain flight time of an emergency airport) make flying over Antarctica risky for commercial carriers. While commercial flights can land at specific scientific and military bases in Antarctica, they avoid flying over the continent because there are no suitable emergency landing strips in the vast, uninhabited interio

lol. In order to fly TO Antarctica you have to fly over portions of it. No frosty for the pizza.

 

[Apple Sky]

lol. In order to fly TO Antarctica you have to fly over portions of it. No frosty for the pizza.

Yes to the edges but you wont find any plane that will fly right over the Antarctic.

 

[Hentenza]

Yes to the edges but you wont find any plane that will fly right over the Antarctic.

No. There are airlines now that can travel across Antartica.

Polar route - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Apple Sky]

Here we have Rob skiba talking about Antarctica.