Speaker Johnson describes planned No Kings rally as ‘hate America,’ ‘pro-Hamas’ gathering

[rjs330]

People who love America must constantly endeavor to improve it. If Europe does certain things better than we do, why not adopt them?

I cant think of anything that Europe does better than America in its governance. If you really want Europe, you should move there.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I cant think of anything that Europe does better than America in its governance. If you really want Europe, you should move there.

1) Healthcare
2) Wages
3) Democracy

If I ever catch you complaining about things in America, say transgender issues or something, I'll let you know that if you want a more repressive government then you can always move to Saudi Arabia.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[rjs330]

1) Healthcare
2) Wages
3) Democracy

If I ever catch you complaining about things in America, say transgender issues or something, I'll let you know that if you want a more repressive government then you can always move to Saudi Arabia.

-CryptoLutheran

I don't think their governance on any of those things is better. I think its more oppressive.

I'm not the one running around wanting a different governance. I don't want European and I don''t want Islamic.

If you want European, go live there.

 

[Fantine]

Nobody is trying to do that.

An assertion without backup is worthless.

 

[Fantine]

Which is not to be more American, but be more European. If you really loved America and American values then you find more ways to fall into its core rather than away from it. Look back to its founding and what made it great and new and unique.

Trying to make it like Europe isn't doing that it's moving away from that. Rhe 1st Ammendment isnt the only thing that make American great and unique.

Americans decide what's "more Anerican." And polls are showing Project 2025 is the most un-American theory ever.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Many of those laws and amendments actually make us less like Europe and less like other countries. Many of those Ammendments are actually making good on the original promise of the founding.

Yes, Many laws and amendments improved America; that's the purpose of change—to make the country better.

But in your post #89 you wrote

“People who.love America aren't consistently trying to change it and make it more like Europe.”

This statement is categorically incorrect, and regrettably, some contemporary conservatives express similar sentiments, suggesting that those advocating for change in America harbor animosity toward the country.

 

[comana]

Which is not to be more American, but be more European. If you really loved America and American values then you find more ways to fall into its core rather than away from it. Look back to its founding and what made it great and new and unique.

Trying to make it like Europe isn't doing that it's moving away from that. Rhe 1st Ammendment isnt the only thing that make American great and unique.

That is a ridiculous notion. Stubbornly staying on a path that no longer works because you believe it is more “American“ is not what this country was founded on.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I cant think of anything that Europe does better than America in its governance. If you really want Europe, you should move there.

As an American, I take pride in my country and its achievements. However, I believe your continued criticism of Europe is unwarranted and does not reflect an informed understanding of the continent. Europe differs from America in many ways, including its approaches to politics, economics, and societal norms. Nonetheless, most Western European countries are highly regarded, and their citizens have high levels of satisfaction with their quality of life.

Instead of criticizing Europe, it may be more beneficial to visit several times and gain insights from their experiences.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

That is a ridiculous notion. Stubbornly staying on a path that no longer works because you believe it is more “American“ is not what this country was founded on.

This country is about the constitution. More people should become more knowledgeable of it so they can evaluate contemporary decisions by it.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I don't think their governance on any of those things is better. I think its more oppressive.

I'm not the one running around wanting a different governance. I don't want European and I don''t want Islamic.

If you want European, go live there.

As an American, I do not advocate for altering our governance to mirror that of European, Islamic, or other nations' democratic systems. However, I am open to adopting policies or practices from other countries, such as Europe or Japan, when they demonstrably benefit the citizen or improve our system of governance.

Those who refuse to consider alternatives or changes in processes, policies, or governance may demonstrate ignorance and rigidity.

 

[BCP1928]

Which is not to be more American, but be more European. If you really loved America and American values then you find more ways to fall into its core rather than away from it. Look back to its founding and what made it great and new and unique.

What we have to do first is agree on what American values really are. Hint: they may not be quite the same as your values in all respects.

Trying to make it like Europe isn't doing that it's moving away from that. Rhe 1st Ammendment isnt the only thing that make American great and unique.

When I look back at it's founding and what made it great and new and unique I find it systematically being obscured by the toxic myth of American Exceptionalism.

 

[BCP1928]

I don't think their governance on any of those things is better. I think its more oppressive.

I'm not the one running around wanting a different governance. I don't want European and I don''t want Islamic.

If you want European, go live there.

If you don't like what's happening here why don't you be the one to move?

 

[rambot]

Many of those laws and amendments actually make us less like Europe and less like other countries. Many of those Ammendments are actually making good on the original promise of the founding.

It's crazy to me to think it's helpful to follow a 250 year old political document and think "well, this is the best we could do".

Agrarian...in the middle of the scientific revolution.....

Nuts.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

It's crazy to me to think it's helpful to follow a 250 year old political document and think "well, this is the best we could do".

Agrarian...in the middle of the scientific revolution.....

Nuts.

That is why it is amenable.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I don't think their governance on any of those things is better. I think its more oppressive.

I'm not the one running around wanting a different governance. I don't want European and I don''t want Islamic.

If you want European, go live there.

Nah I'm good. I'm sticking around.

Sorry.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[rjs330]

An assertion without backup is worthless.

Lol, you made the assertion someone is. I made the assertion that no one is.

 

[rjs330]

Americans decide what's "more Anerican." And polls are showing Project 2025 is the most un-American theory ever.

Whats project 2025 got to do with turning America into Europe?

 

[rjs330]

suggesting that those advocating for change in America harbor animosity toward the country.

Many of them do. They don't like America, they make all kinds of claims about how horrible of a country it was and is. America is on stolen land, America was built on slavery, America is still a systemically racist country etc etc. There is very little they like about America. Thats why they are constantly trying to make it more like Europe, because for some reason they believe Europe is better.

 

[rjs330]

Europe differs from America in many ways, including its approaches to politics, economics, and societal norms.

Exactly. Thats my point. Europe isn't America and America isn't Europe. If you want Europe, you should go live there. I'm not saying Europe is bad. Ive been there many times and enjoyed the visits. Its just different. Its not better. If anyone thinks it is, they should go live there.

America has a lot of things in its Constitution that Europe does not have. It has a lot of rights that Europe does not have.

 

[rjs330]

When I look back at it's founding and what made it great and new and unique I find it systematically being obscured by the toxic myth of American Exceptionalism.

Ah.... and there were have it.