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I am not convinced he does.


It’s not something he “allows” as people don’t require his permission for such gatherings nor does he have the legal authority to stop them.
Face it, if he felt like it, he would totally stop it.

The only reason he doesn't is because the protests are all about him, and trump loves things that are all about him.
 
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Hence my use of “legal authority”.
You use those words like they mean anything.

I understand authority, but what is that legal thing?

Legal... Legul... Leegall...
 
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Ignoring the law and prosecuting his enemies. Killing people.
No he hasn't. He was prosecuted by his enemies and no called rhem facists.

Its called fair justice. If you arw going to prosecute someone for doing the same thing you are doing then you deserve to be prosecuted as well. That's called justice.

Killing people? You are going to have to be more specific than that.
 
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Nobody has done what Trump has done. He has pardoned his friends and tried to jail his enemies. No President has ignored the law in ways Trump has.
Exercising constitutional authority is not facist no matter how you wish to spin it.

What laws has he ignored?

His enemies have tried to jail him. Yet you didnt call them facists. Hypocritical arguments won't be accepted as evidence of facism.
 
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No he hasn't.
Incorrect.

He was prosecuted by his enemies and no called rhem facists.
He was prosecuted for crimes by legitimate prosecutors. Prosecuting criminals doesn't make one a fascist.
Its called fair justice.
Not when done only to avenge legitimate crimes. Only John Bolton, a Trump man, looks like a legitimate case.
If you arw going to prosecute someone for doing the same thing you are doing then you deserve to be prosecuted as well. That's called justice.
It's justice when there are legitimate crimes but Trump demanded his enemies be prosecuted, even though career prosecutors said no crime was found. Trump had them fired and installed his own corrupt lawyers to do the dirty work.
Killing people?
Yes, murdering people.
You are going to have to be more specific than that.
He has ordered boats to be destroyed with no proof of a crime, which is illegal. That is murder.
 
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Exercising constitutional authority is not facist no matter how you wish to spin it.
That's true but that isn't what Trump has done. He was ordered to stop deporting immigrants, illegally but he refused. He violates the Constitution regularly.
What laws has he ignored?
Due process. He is killing boaters without proof trying to stop them or giving them the opportunity to surrender, which is murder
His enemies have tried to jail him.
They haven't tried to jail him. He was prosecuted for crimes and if the punishment was jail, then so be it

Yet you didnt call them facists.
They were legitimate prosecutions.
Hypocritical arguments won't be accepted as evidence of facism.
I've offered no hypocrisy.
 
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I am not convinced he does.


It’s not something he “allows” as people don’t require his permission for such gatherings nor does he have the legal authority to stop them.
Ok. Thats fair.
 
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like how hes bypassing congress for the atracks on drug boats?
Perfectly legal. Congress isn't required.
Or all of his executive orders.
Perfectly legal.
Or like how he praises tyrants and says he wants to emulate them.
A negotiation tactic.
Or how he's empowered a prejudice police force that covers it's face and challenges people based just on skin colour?
They already had power to enforce immigration law. Trump gave them no special power.
Its already been explained why they cover their faces. Sorry you support the scum who threaten their families.
They don't just challenge on skin color. You are deliberately leaving things out.

Sounds like a lot of hystrionics to me.
 
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That's true but that isn't what Trump has done. He was ordered to stop deporting immigrants, illegally but he refused. He violates the Constitution regularly.
Nope, he hasn't violated the Constitution.
Due process. He is killing boaters without proof trying to stop them or giving them the opportunity to surrender, which is murder
No its not. Its the high seas and he protecting the country form thise who want to cross our boarders and murder Americans. They are terrorists.
They haven't tried to jail him. He was prosecuted for crimes and if the punishment was jail, then so be it
Nope they tried to jail him. If you want to accuse Trump of doing the same thing then fine, but admit what they did to him. If we are to accept your claim then you have to be consistent with it.
They were legitimate prosecutions.
So are these. Be consistent.
I've offered no hypocrisy.
Your whole post was filled with hypocrisy.
 
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Nope, he hasn't violated the Constitution.
He suppresses freedom of speech.
He denies due process.
He has violated Separation of Powers
No its not. Its the high seas
That doesn't change anything. We have laws regarding due process which were violated. Plus, if these were actual drug runners, that is not a crime which brings they death sentence.
and he protecting the country form thise who want to cross our boarders and murder Americans. They are terrorists.
Prove it. Trump hasn't. The boats weren't in American waters. Where they headed? These could been a bunch of rich kids on a wild run with friends.
Nope they tried to jail him.
For crimes which he violated.
If you want to accuse Trump of doing the same thing then fine, but admit what they did to him.
I have. Trump violated several crimes statutes and he was prosecuted. He was fortunate to have been reelected and those cases were either dropped or are pending.
If we are to accept your claim then you have to be consistent with it.
Yep, and I have. You have no real concept of the Constitution, or federal and state laws.
God
So are these. Be consistent.
I have and you have been consistently wrong. You have offered no proof of your position.
 
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Perfectly legal. Congress isn't required.
Not perfectly legal to bomb a boat in international waters.

Strategy: ignoring

Perfectly legal.
Never said they were illegal.

Strategy: strawman
A negotiation tactic.
Get outta here with that nonsense! Lol!

Not if behaviour and his verbiage match it.

Strategy: say something...don't worry about it making sense.
They already had power to enforce immigration law. Trump gave them no special power.
He says right before he notes they're masked and they question people based on skin colour and changed rules.

That is not normal.

Its already been explained why they cover their faces.
And don't have any identifying information.

But its not a secret police targeting anyone.

Strategy: say it often enough and it becomes unimportant.

They don't just challenge on skin color. You are deliberately leaving things out.
Yes they do. Seen plenty of examples of them just randomly walking up to brown people and challenging their immigrarion status.

And even if they did, don't pretend that you would care about that anyways.

.ultimately I guess I don't care how you all choose to police your citizenry just dont call yourself a free country. That's just delusional.
 
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Right. Since he respects freedom of speech.
Whoa, let's back the truck up a little here.


'The (Pentagon) journalists who turned in their press credentials earlier this month did so after the US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, introduced a policy that required that they agree not to obtain unauthorized material...'

Trump has said that they couldn't print anything unless it was authorised. And this doesn't mean classified information. They were told that they could only report what the Pentagon wanted them to report. That is in direct contradiction to the First amendment. It's a restriction on the freedom of the press.
 
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A general strike would likely get the Congress’ and Senate’s attention…maybe March of 2026?
If liberals have a national strike, it will only give their employers another excuse to fire them. Then we will hear said liberals blaming Trump for the increased unemployment rate.
 
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He suppresses freedom of speech.
He denies due process.
He has violated Separation of Powers
No he hasn't. All that article did was lay out the leftist complaints. Everything Trump has done has been legal. Government , presidents etc act based upon their interpretation of the Constitution. Its legal until the Supreme Court looks at it and interprets the Constitution and determines if rhe actions are Constitutional or not. Even if they do determine the action is not Constitutional doesn't mean it was illegal at the time it was done.

And a lot of the whining of the left hasn't even been ruled on yet.
That doesn't change anything. We have laws regarding due process which were violated.
Nope, certain actions conducted in defense of the country and its citizens due not require due process.
Prove it. Trump hasn't. The boats weren't in American waters. Where they headed? These could been a bunch of rich kids on a wild run with friends.
Yes Im sure they were. Nice try. I don't need to prove it to you and neither does the military. They are not required to share military intelligence with the masses. Did you think they did?
For crimes which he violated.
Well it was the leftist James and her DOJ who promised to go after him. They wanted him in jail. And right now James is also in the same boat. Accused of crimes, just like Trump.was accused if crimes. If she is found guilty then we can also say "crimes which she violated". We'll have to wait and see.
You have no real concept of the Constitution, or federal and state laws.
I think you definitely don't understand how it all.works.
I have and you have been consistently wrong.
Sorry, I am consistently correct. The leftist James DOJ went after Trump to jail him. She ran on that as a prosecutor.
 
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Not perfectly legal to bomb a boat in international waters.
Yes under certain circumstances it is. And again, Congress does not have to give permission.
Never said they were illegal.
Then whats your complaint. The complaint is he is doing things that are legal?
Get outta here with that nonsense! Lol!
Its obvious you don't know how he works.
He says right before he notes they're masked and they question people based on skin colour and changed rules.
Was there some sort of rule prohibiting them from wearing masks? Was there a law? ICE isnt doing anything now that they didn't have power to do before. Trump changed no laws. He gave them no special power. You remain incorrect.
And don't have any identifying information.
Of course they do. Its all over their equipment. They all also carry badges. Good grief, you are wrong again.
Yes they do. Seen plenty of examples of them just randomly walking up to brown people and challenging their immigrarion status.

And even if they did, don't pretend that you would care about that anyways.
No they don't. You are being deceived by leftist videos that deliberately leave things out.

And yes I would have a problem with it if they were just walking down the street randomly challenging brown people. They dont do that. They have a targeted enforcement operation with warrants and they are looking for the illegals rhat are there. If you are around the illegals and hanging with them, then its appropriate to determine if you are one also.
ultimately I guess I don't care how you all choose to police your citizenry just dont call yourself a free country. That's just delusional.
We are far more free here than you are in Canada, that's for sure.
 
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