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Are Pastors Allowed to Be Effeminate?

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I want to thank Mike Todd for what he said because what he said is true. As a matter of fact, we're going to hold him and others to that same standard. You can say what you want to say, but you can kind of see what a person is, how they are when you just start kind of watching them. Watch what they say. Watch what they do. Even watch their mannerisms. And this is a problem in society, even more so, well, maybe not more so, but certainly in the church. And that's having to deal with men, their masculinity, their sexuality, how they portray themselves.
I don't agree with this YouTuber on everything, but I do agree on this.

It's clear enough in scripture that we do have to be aware of how we are perceived by the world, and that there is a particular lifestyle we should present as the Christian lifestyle. Besides the effeminate appearance and mannerisms, there is also the issue of Christian modesty, that is, non-ostentatiousness...which obviates "audaciousness" in appearance and mannerisms.

First, the problem of effeminate men in African-American church roles is not at all new, although in the past it was an issue for the worship leader. That was an issue I was aware of even when I was a teenager in the 60s. And, if you'll notice, it's still broadly connected to the musical role or people who have been part of the musical role.
 
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I don't agree with this YouTuber on everything, but I do agree on this.

Nor do I but he’s posted a couple of videos on the subject that are hard to debate. One of the commenters said Todd and his associate admitted being sexually assaulted when they were younger. I don’t listen to either but that doesn’t minimize the necessity of orderliness in the church. Most of them have no accountability or they’re surrounded by yes men.

I’m familiar with the trope on worship directors and rarely listen to gospel music anymore. It’s the wrong spirit and the list of offenders is long and I’d happily support Kirk Franklin’s retirement.

~bella
 
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Why Even HARVARD's Smartest Students Can’t get a Job Now?

Even Harvard graduates — the smartest minds in the world — are struggling to find jobs today. The job market is collapsing, degrees don’t guarantee success anymore, and automation is taking over faster than anyone expected. In this video, we break down why even elite graduates are facing unemployment — and what it means for the future of work.

*Note: Half of all job ads are fake.

 
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Perfect 1950s Family Life Was All An Act

I realize that not every person growing up in the 50's had a "fake" family that looked perfect but wasn't. Enough people experienced the fakeness to make the 60's generation rebel against the rigid rules of how a family was supposed to look. This is a portion of my 6 part PBS television series, Making Sense Of The Sixties. Many of you have asked me to present more sections from the series. Please remember that I made it in 1989, more than 30 years ago. You can't look at the 1960s and what happened without looking at the life young people lead in the 1950s.

 
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Perfect 1950s Family Life Was All An Act

I realize that not every person growing up in the 50's had a "fake" family that looked perfect but wasn't. Enough people experienced the fakeness to make the 60's generation rebel against the rigid rules of how a family was supposed to look. This is a portion of my 6 part PBS television series, Making Sense Of The Sixties. Many of you have asked me to present more sections from the series. Please remember that I made it in 1989, more than 30 years ago. You can't look at the 1960s and what happened without looking at the life young people lead in the 1950s.
Awesome, you made this documentary?
Fakeness? I don't understand.
 
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Awesome, you made this documentary?
Fakeness? I don't understand.

No, I didn’t make the video nor did the majority live the way families were depicted during that period. If you look at the comments you’ll see the same. Sin is always present and rears its head differently in every era. Keeping up appearances is the perfect cover for abuse.

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I am doubtful of what it says.
Need to find out more about their motive behind the film, perhaps to justify the 1960s.

Most households don’t mimic television. Whether its sitcoms from the fifties or modern ones like The Cosby Show. It’s entertainment. Given YouTube’s arrival the truth should be evident. Does everyone depicting their life on their channel live the same? Of course not. Unlike before we have more diversity and the omission of gatekeeping and you’re able to hear from different perspectives.

For example, I watch a lot of homesteading content. Do the bulk of the citizens in any nation own acres of land, grow their own food and preserve it, have multi year larders and so on? No, they don’t. But when I look at them I see myself because I do the same and appreciate the similarities. It isn’t the only message that exists and that’s important. No philosophy represents all.

Look at christianity. We have 45,000 interpretations of belief in Christ.

~bella
 
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Look at the phrase "rigid rules", it sounds like exaggeration -- to make modern lifestyle look "normal" and "humane".
Having Rules is good, the fact that the film producer doesnt like it - doesnt make it bad.

Let's look at the fruits of 2 different lifestyles, as Lord Jesus taught.
The modern era - literacy rate going down, more divorce, more drug addictions, more crimes, more suicides.
1950s - higher literacy rate, less divorce, less drug addictions, less crimes, less suicides.
 
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Look at the phrase "rigid rules", it sounds like exaggeration -- to make modern lifestyle look "normal" and "humane".
Having Rules is good, the fact that the film producer doesnt like it - doesnt make it bad.

Let's look at the fruits of 2 different lifestyles, as Lord Jesus taught.
The modern era - literacy rate going down, more divorce, more drug addictions, more crimes, more suicides.
1950s - higher literacy rate, less divorce, less drug addictions, less crimes, less suicides.

Did you live during that period? The people in the documentary and comments experienced it firsthand. If they felt rigidity was a problem for them your observance from a different era doesn’t nullify that. It would appear you’re unaware of the biblical teachings on pretense. Pretending to be something you aren’t for the sake of appearances isn’t righteous. It’s deceitful.

~bella
 
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Did you live during that period? The people in the documentary and comments experienced it firsthand. If they felt rigidity was a problem for them your observance from a different era doesn’t nullify that. It would appear you’re unaware of the biblical teachings on pretense. Pretending to be something you aren’t for the sake of appearances isn’t righteous. It’s deceitful.

~bella
I don't think so. Did you read the book 'How to lie with statistics' ? Many social studies were biased or flawed.

The thing that led people to rebel in 1960s was the massive infiltration of corrupt culture and bad ideas, not rules.
The film was aimed at attacking Christian lifestyle sneakily, and justifying a liberal secular one - no rules, sex before marriage, divorce, sodomy, etc.

Let's look at the fruits of 2 different lifestyles:
The modern era - literacy rate going down, more divorce, more drug addictions, more crimes, more suicides.
1950s - higher literacy rate, less divorce, less drug addictions, less crimes, less suicides.

(So you believe your grandpa & grandma were just faking their joy & calm, but in reality they were not, they were unhappy.
And you believe my grandpa & grandma were just faking their joy & calm, but in reality they were not, they were unhappy. And they might prefer a divorce, or rebel against the establishment. What proof do you have?)
 
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Let's look at the fruits of 2 different lifestyles:
The modern era - literacy rate going down, more divorce, more drug addictions, more crimes, more suicides.
1950s - higher literacy rate, less divorce, less drug addictions, less crimes, less suicides.

Modernity hasn’t prevented me from walking with the Lord, pursuing my purpose or living with holiness in mind because I agree with His principles. I love Him more than my sin. It doesn’t matter what’s happening around me. Staying the course is a choice.

~bella
 
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How America Profits off the Financially Stupid

Note: The video was uploaded six days ago and the national debt cited in the video was $37,541,104,920,291. We’ve added an additional $478,129 trillion since that period. Consumer debt is nearly half that amount.

They say that in late stage capitalism, you will owe nothing and you will be happy. Happy. Well, guess what? Wall Street now owns your home. Banks make billions off your debt. And government made your cash so worthless, you're paying your Chipotle burrito in four separate installments. But here's the thing, though. It wasn't always like this. The pillar of the American economy used to be ownership.

 
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Why Is Private Equity Buying So Many Homes?

Fundamental aspects of the American dream like home ownership is increasingly becoming another subscription where corporate investors now buy one third of all single family homes.


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The Psychology of People Who Don’t Post on Social Media

We live in a world obsessed with sharing, yet some people remain completely invisible online. They scroll quietly, observe deeply, and never post. Why do they choose silence when the whole world is shouting for attention? This video dives deep into the fascinating psychology behind 'ghost scrollers' and non-posters. It's not just about being shy; it’s about control, emotional independence, and a quiet rebellion against a culture that equates visibility with value.

We explore the concepts of psychological ownership, internal locus of control, and the hidden peace found when you detach your worth from digital applause. If you've ever felt burnt out by the performance of social media, or wondered about the power of being unseen, this analysis is for you. Discover why sometimes, the most profound things happen quietly, and how non-posters might just be guarding their authenticity in a staged world.

 
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The Death of Social Media

Social media used to look like this. Now it looks like this. Look at that difference. Something fundamental has broken. And people have finally had enough. They're not just taking breaks anymore. They're actually deleting their accounts, closing apps they've used for years, and never looking back. Your phone ruins your brain.

 
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The Death of Social Media

Social media used to look like this. Now it looks like this. Look at that difference. Something fundamental has broken. And people have finally had enough. They're not just taking breaks anymore. They're actually deleting their accounts, closing apps they've used for years, and never looking back. Your phone ruins your brain.

Saw a soldier on TikTok a few weeks ago. He made a video in full military uniform, rank, service and name clearly visible...with his hair dyed day-glow green. He said he was going to wear it that way, and damn what his supervisor thought of it.

Clearly, social media creates brain damage.
 
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The Psychology of People Who Don’t Post on Social Media

We live in a world obsessed with sharing, yet some people remain completely invisible online. They scroll quietly, observe deeply, and never post. Why do they choose silence when the whole world is shouting for attention? This video dives deep into the fascinating psychology behind 'ghost scrollers' and non-posters. It's not just about being shy; it’s about control, emotional independence, and a quiet rebellion against a culture that equates visibility with value.

We explore the concepts of psychological ownership, internal locus of control, and the hidden peace found when you detach your worth from digital applause. If you've ever felt burnt out by the performance of social media, or wondered about the power of being unseen, this analysis is for you. Discover why sometimes, the most profound things happen quietly, and how non-posters might just be guarding their authenticity in a staged world.


I watched a video by a woman decrying the paucity of videos from well-adjusted men in response to all the red-pill videos on YouTube.

She had heard the rationales that "productive men have other things to do" and the much older, "productive men don't need to talk that much," but she dismissed those.

But if, in fact, "most of we post is identity crafting," then that's a valid explanation. We've known for a long, long time that for men the productive things we do in our lives is "identity crafting" for us. "What I do is who I am."

I'm not going to get into why women do so much more video posting, because I'm not in a woman's head. But I do think that so much of the posting I see is either by women, or by unproductive men, or very specific posting by productive men on how to do specific productive things.
 
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