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Mississippi School Homecoming Celebrations Turn Deadly as 8 People are Killed 20 Injured in Separate Shootings

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There's not enough information on the suspects available to make a determination at this point. However, based on a picture of one of the suspects, we know there was at least one handgun with a high-capacity magazine used, so a ban on high-capacity magazines may have resulted in fewer casualties.
But wouldn't have prevented the gun violence.
 
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But wouldn't have prevented the gun violence.
Without knowing the criminal histories of the suspects, the types of guns used, or how the guns used were acquired, there's no way to know which gun laws, if any, could have prevented the shooting.
 
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Without knowing the criminal histories of the suspects, the types of guns used, or how the guns used were acquired, there's no way to know which gun laws, if any, could have prevented the shooting.
Then why all the advocating for stricter gun laws?
 
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Mississippi has none of the gun laws listed below:

Vermont

  • Background Check is Required for All Firearm Purchases, Including Those From Private Sellers
  • A 72-Hour Waiting Period for Firearm Purchases.
  • High Capacity Magazines Prohibited
  • Extreme Risk Law
  • Secure Storage Law
  • Minimum Age of 21 to Purchase a Firearm
  • Prohibition for Convicted Domestic Abusers
  • Prohibition for Domestic Abusers Under Restraining Orders
  • Prohibition for People With Stalking Convictions From Having Firearms
  • Three Day Waiting Period

Maine

  • Secure Storage Law
  • No Gun Purchases After Violent Offense
  • Prohibition for Convicted Domestic Abusers
  • Prohibition for Domestic Abusers Under Restraining Orders
  • Prohibition for People Who Have Been Involuntarily Committed to a Psychiatric Hospital or Found to be a Danger to Themselves or Others Due to Mental Illness

New Hampshire

  • Secure Storage Law
  • Prohibition for People Who Have Been Convicted of a Hate Crime
  • Prohibition for Domestic Abusers Under Restraining Orders
  • Relinquishment of Firearms for Convicted Domestic Abusers


California's gun death rate is 7.6 per 100,000, while Ohio's is approximately 15.7, which is 107% higher than California's. Let's pretend that Ohio adopted the same gun laws as California and it has the exact same effect. In 2022, Ohio had 1,852 gun deaths. If the gun death rate was the same as California's, there would have been 895, or 957 fewer gun deaths in that year.

If you had a choice between:

A) You can carry your Glock in public for the extremely rare occasion when you might need it to protect yourself or others from violent crime in Ohio.
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B) You have to leave your Glock at home, but 957 fewer people will die in Ohio as a result of gun violence each year.
B. Clearly.
 
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They would reduce the frequency and lethality of shootings.
Supposedly.
Then maybe Mississippi should adopt the Chicago gun law model. We've all seen what a success that's been. It might necessitate the National Guard being called in to eventually clean up the mess that would result, but at least people could say, "We did something!". More likely, they'd say, "This is just the first step in getting rid of gun ownership!"
 
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Supposedly.
Then maybe Mississippi should adopt the Chicago gun law model. We've all seen what a success that's been.
The majority of guns used in Chicago crimes come from outside the city and from across the border in Indiana, where gun laws are far less restrictive. This is why stricter gun laws like those found in the city of Chicago and the state of California need to be imposed at the federal level.
 
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The majority of guns used in Chicago crimes come from outside the city and from across the border in Indiana, where gun laws are far less restrictive. This is why stricter gun laws like those found in the city of Chicago and the state of California need to be imposed at the federal level.
You've said all that before.
 
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Universal background checks, including private sales, would make it harder for criminals to get guns.

Safe storage laws would reduce gun thefts, which is a significant source of firearms used in murders.

A ban on assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines would result in fewer deaths in mass shootings.

Preventing convicted domestic abusers, domestic abusers under restraining orders, and people with stalking convictions from owning firearms would prevent a lot of people from being killed in domestic violence incidents.
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Well how to compare Mississippi with California, is to take the section of California who racial makeup matches the Mississippi Delta's and compare murder rates. Because 100% of the killing in Mississippi are blacks killing blacks and see how the gun laws in California are working to prevent murder.
 
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