Should Trump have been banned from running for president?

[ViaCrucis]

And who aren't Democrats?

There is no reason to give Democrats special exemption. Party affiliation is meaningless as far as morality go.

I will say that most people I know who vote Democrat are also usually the first to criticize the Democrats, and if a Democrat does something wrong, they are called out for it pretty enthusiastically.

I feel fairly confident in saying that a Democrat who acted like Donald Trump simply wouldn't get the opportunity to be voted for. So for all the many problems of the Democratic Party (and there certainly are many problems), they at least have that going for them.

-CryptoLUtheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

As an independent it amazes me that the Democratic Party put out such a horrible message that Trump won the election. If I was a democrat I would definitely be fighting to change the platform and direction of the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is an embarrassment just as the Republican Party. Obviously the voters thought that the Democratic Party was worse than the Republican Party. Both parties have drifted to the extremes. Stop whining and force your party to change.

1) I think it's about time that the Democratic Party is retired. There are Democrats I respect, and I will on the whole vote Democrat because I think the Democratic platform, at least on paper, is more moral than the Republican platform. But I have precisely zero ounces of affection toward the Democratic Party. I would prefer a more robust, explicitly progressive party that is both clear--and honest--in its platforming about social justice and civil liberties. The Democratic Party, as it exists, is largely a center-right party that occasionally gives token nods to people on the left; and only appears liberal and progressive when compared to the Republican Party.

2) Where I think the Democratic Party is largely a ridiculous mess of mixed messaging, token support, and only still exists because it's been around for so long nobody knows what to do about it; the other Big Alternative--the Republican Party--as best as I can tell has degenerated to little more than a group of sniveling sycophants who are incapable of doing anything but licking Donald Trump's shoes. Either because they are afraid of the MAGA monster he--and they--created; or because MAGA is a useful tool they think they can control (they can't); or because some actually believe it. Perhaps a mix of all three.

I don't vote Democrat because I like the Democratic Party. I vote Democrat because I'm stuck with a political system where my choice is between unseasoned raw tofu or literal poison. So I guess I'm going with compromise and bland, because it's better than literal poison. The Democrats lack any spine to actually defend the American people from the power-hungry maniacs who want to rob and exploit us, but they'll at least make token efforts to not let it get too bad; on the contrary the Republicans seem highly invested in making everything worse for every American.

So at the end of the day all I can do is try to operate with a conscience informed by the Christian values I was raised to have: Love others, especially the least of these, and desire that my neighbor flourish. I may not get to vote for what I want, but at least I'm not voting to see my neighbors actively hurt because I think people who speak a different language or who look different than me are subhuman.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hentenza]

1) I think it's about time that the Democratic Party is retired. There are Democrats I respect, and I will on the whole vote Democrat because I think the Democratic platform, at least on paper, is more moral than the Republican platform. But I have precisely zero ounces of affection toward the Democratic Party. I would prefer a more robust, explicitly progressive party that is both clear--and honest--in its platforming about social justice and civil liberties. The Democratic Party, as it exists, is largely a center-right party that occasionally gives token nods to people on the left; and only appears liberal and progressive when compared to the Republican Party.

2) Where I think the Democratic Party is largely a ridiculous mess of mixed messaging, token support, and only still exists because it's been around for so long nobody knows what to do about it; the other Big Alternative--the Republican Party--as best as I can tell has degenerated to little more than a group of sniveling sycophants who are incapable of doing anything but licking Donald Trump's shoes. Either because they are afraid of the MAGA monster he--and they--created; or because MAGA is a useful tool they think they can control (they can't); or because some actually believe it. Perhaps a mix of all three.

I don't vote Democrat because I like the Democratic Party. I vote Democrat because I'm stuck with a political system where my choice is between unseasoned raw tofu or literal poison. So I guess I'm going with compromise and bland, because it's better than literal poison. The Democrats lack any spine to actually defend the American people from the power-hungry maniacs who want to rob and exploit us, but they'll at least make token efforts to not let it get too bad; on the contrary the Republicans seem highly invested in making everything worse for every American.

So at the end of the day all I can do is try to operate with a conscience informed by the Christian values I was raised to have: Love others, especially the least of these, and desire that my neighbor flourish. I may not get to vote for what I want, but at least I'm not voting to see my neighbors actively hurt because I think people who speak a different language or who look different than me are subhuman.

-CryptoLutheran

And yet the voters voted for the party that you call “literal poison” and Donald Trump. Progressive agendas and policies have been proven completely wrong and voters associate the Democratic Party to progressive ideas. A perfect example would be the soft on crime agenda of progressive DA’s and also the open borders stand. You stand in the minority preaching destructive progressive agendas. These will never win an election. Good luck.

 

[Yarddog]

Yes. Felons should be barred from running for president. Especially those that attempt to overthrow the government.

Yes, there were plenty of Republicans in the Senate that knew Trump was guilty but refused to vote guilty during his impeachment trial.

 

[Yarddog]

And yet the voters voted for the party that you call “literal poison” and Donald Trump. Progressive agendas and policies have been proven completely wrong and voters associate the Democratic Party to progressive ideas. A perfect example would be the soft on crime agenda of progressive DA’s and also the open borders stand. You stand in the minority preaching destructive progressive agendas. These will never win an election. Good luck.

You show the problem why many vote Republican. They believe Republican lies about what the Democratic party's agenda is.

 

[Hentenza]

You show the problem why many vote Republican. They believe Republican lies about what the Democratic party's agenda is.

Lies? All progressives are democrats. All soft on crime DAs are democrats. All that espouse open borders are democrats. All that want to remove parental rights are democrats.

I’m not believing lies just observing truth.

 

[Light of the East]

Do you think Donald Trump should've been banned from running for president?

I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that Donald Trump was allowed to run for president again after everything that happened on January 6th, 2021. The Capitol riots weren’t just a random protest that got out of hand they were a direct result of months of Trump spreading lies about a “stolen” election and pressuring officials to overturn the results.


A sitting president encouraged his supporters to march on Congress during the certification of an election he lost, and people died because of it. That alone should’ve disqualified him from holding office again under the 14th Amendment (Section 3), which literally bans anyone who engaged in or incited an insurrection from serving in government.


On top of that, there are his criminal indictments... from trying to interfere in Georgia’s election results to mishandling classified documents. Any one of those cases would’ve ended most politicians’ careers, but somehow Trump’s using them as campaign fuel.

I
Whether you’re left, right, or independent, how does this not set a terrifying precedent? If someone can try to overturn an election and still be allowed to run again, what’s stopping future leaders from doing the same — maybe more effectively next time?

It's dangerous to allow a man like hin to have power.

What do you think?should the courts or Congress have acted to enforce the insurrection clause?

It is obvious that you are a liberal and you have an agenda. The election was stolen, and we have PROOF that this happened. Pictures of people stuffing drop in vote boxes on the streets. Closing the voting polling places and then boarding up the windows so that no one could see what was taking place inside. Changing the rules of balloting in Pennsylvania so that it favored the Democrat Party. The list goes on and on and on.

In addition to this, the quotes from President Trump were taken out of context to make it look like he was advocating violence. The FBI placed over 200 agent provocateurs in the crowd who incited the violence. Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of DC both refused Trump's request for National Guard troops to keep the peace.

Honestly, a professing Christian should not engage in lying. You need to take a while to think about how you are promoting the LIES of the Democrat Party and the Communists who are running it and who hate America.

 

[Yarddog]

Lies? All progressives are democrats. All soft on crime DAs are democrats.

Prove it.

All that espouse open borders are democrats.

No one espouses open borders.

All that want to remove parental rights are democrats.

Democrats don't want to remove parental rights. Provide the DNC site with this issue.

I’m not believing lies just observing truth.

You're believing what you're told to believe.

 

[ViaCrucis]

And yet the voters voted for the party that you call “literal poison” and Donald Trump.

People also voted for a certain mustache man as Chancellor of Germany--there is precent for people voting the worst possible choice. History is filled to the brim of terrible things happening, and crisis moments in societies and civilization.

We are going through one right now.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hentenza]

Prove it.

No one espouses open borders.

Democrats don't want to remove parental rights. Provide the DNC site with this issue.

You're believing what you're told to believe.

Are you for real? You mean to tell me that the soft on crimes DAs of LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, Denver, etc. are republicans? Really? Are you telling me that those proposing that parents not be informed of their kids gender dysphoria are republicans?

Take you head out of the sand. Your party lost to crazy Trump because they didn’t espouse open borders? If I was you I would be embarrassed.

 

[Hentenza]

People also voted for a certain mustache man as Chancellor of Germany--there is precent for people voting the worst possible choice. History is filled to the brim of terrible things happening, and crisis moments in societies and civilization.

We are going through one right now.

-CryptoLutheran

Godwin.

 

[Light of the East]

Are you for real? You mean to tell me that the soft on crimes DAs of LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, Denver, etc. are republicans? Really? Are you telling me that those proposing that parents not be informed of their kids gender dysphoria are republicans?

Take you head out of the sand. Your party lost to crazy Trump because they didn’t espouse open borders? If I was you I would be embarrassed.

It is bizarre to see posts like the one to which you are responding. It's as if Democrats either don't watch their party leaders destroy this country, parental authority, and the morality of the nation, or they just don't care because they are so agenda-driven and brainwashed by the gaslighting they are given every day by the liberal media.

 

[Yarddog]

Are you for real?

Are you? Provide proof.

You mean to tell me that the soft on crimes DAs of LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, Denver, etc. are republicans?

Prove that they are soft.

Really? Are you telling me that those proposing that parents not be informed of their kids gender dysphoria are republicans?

Prove it. Show that it is Democratic policy. You should find all this on the DNC home page, if it the truth.

Take you head out of the sand.

Take yours out of the right wing media.

Your party lost to crazy Trump because they didn’t espouse open borders? If I was you I would be embarrassed.

Thanks for admitting that he's crazy. The Democrats have never espoused open borders. So why do Republicans keep saying it. It's a lie.

Why should Democrats be embarrassed. Republicans voted for a convicted criminal and believed his crazy lies. Republicans are a laughing stock to the whole world.

 

[Hentenza]

Are you? Provide proof.

Prove that they are soft.

Prove it. Show that it is Democratic policy. You should find all this on the DNC home page, if it the truth.

Take yours out of the right wing media.

Thanks for admitting that he's crazy. The Democrats have never espoused open borders. So why do Republicans keep saying it. It's a lie.

Why should Democrats be embarrassed. Republicans voted for a convicted criminal and believed his crazy lies. Republicans are a laughing stock to the whole world.

I’m not wasting my time researching what is obvious. The dems didnt loose to a felon because that were great. The issues I listed have been talked about for quite some time now and not by just republicans. Get your head out of the sand.

 

[Hentenza]

@Yarddog

The following is a very common sentiment that I heard many progressives promote. It’s a very common sentiment that permeates the far left side if the Democratic Party.

“The truth is that MAGA is right about Democrats and open borders. The deepest values any true Democrat holds point ineluctably toward open borders and freedom of movement for all people. We as Democrats must stop cringing from this core truth, and we must stop kowtowing to anti-immigrant rhetoric that only serves reactionary causes. Only an open border is consistent with freedom, democratic government, diversity, and racial justice.”

Democracy Demands Open Borders

Every immigrant is a vote for America. Every deportation is a vote against America.

www.liberalcurrents.com

 

[Yarddog]

I’m not wasting my time researching what is obvious. The dems didnt loose to a felon because that were great. The issues I listed have been talked about for quite some time now and not by just republicans. Get your head out of the sand.

Lol,thanks for admitting the problem. You believe the right right wings lies because you're too lazy to check for facts.

 

[Yarddog]

@Yarddog on

The following is a very common sentiment that I heard many progressives promote. It’s a very common sentiment that permeates the far left side if the Democratic Party.

“The truth is that MAGA is right about Democrats and open borders. The deepest values any true Democrat holds point ineluctably toward open borders and freedom of movement for all people. We as Democrats must stop cringing from this core truth, and we must stop kowtowing to anti-immigrant rhetoric that only serves reactionary causes. Only an open border is consistent with freedom, democratic government, diversity, and racial justice.”

Democracy Demands Open Borders

Every immigrant is a vote for America. Every deportation is a vote against America.

www.liberalcurrents.com

That isn't the Democratic party or their policy any more than the Nazi party is the Republican party.

New Dems Unveil New Plan to Secure the Border and Reform the Immigration System | New Democrat Coalition

The Official Site For The New Democrat Coalition

newdemocratcoalition.house.gov

 

[Hentenza]

Lol,thanks for admitting the problem. You believe the right right wings lies because you're too lazy to check for facts.

Nah. No admitting anything. Just selfish of my time when it comes to such an obvious issue. And no, I’m not a republican.

 

[Yarddog]

Nah. No admitting anything. Just selfish of my time when it comes to such an obvious issue. And no, I’m not a republican.

You're not a Democrat either but you listen to Republican lies.

 

[Hentenza]

That isn't the Democratic party or their policy any more than the Nazi party is the Republican party.

New Dems Unveil New Plan to Secure the Border and Reform the Immigration System | New Democrat Coalition

The Official Site For The New Democrat Coalition

newdemocratcoalition.house.gov

All progressives are democrats.