Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna

[bèlla]

Yes you did. You used the word "relations". And fornication.

Stop derailing the thread. Sexual abstinence is your bend not mine. I didn’t expound on the subject. If you want to address it start a new thread.

~bella

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Women were expected to marry and reproduce. The culture was patriarchal. Their entrance into the workforce coupled with feminism altered the atmosphere.



They’ve moved nearer to their origin in the garden. Man was given a directive and that includes everyone.



All ideologies need adherents for furtherance. If we center the question on tradition the answer has been provided. Women are moving away from traditional roles and opening themselves to new opportunities. For some that means a life devoid of marriage and children. For others it means explorations in leadership including entrepreneurs. Some feel compelled to teach and offer instruction and support for women, mothers, etc. The paths are numerous because our knitting differs.

~bella

That seems to work, the experiment area seems to be restricted to certain geographical zones, and the earth is overpopulated as it is.

 

[RDKirk]

Where do you get that idea? Every example I shared is independent. They’re not standing in pulpits. They built profitable entities for their work.

~bella

I'm talking about secular roles.

I remember in the 60s when Germaine Greer spoke of women entering tradtionally masculine roles but bringing a feminine (not feminist) influence into those roles. But I don't see a feminine influence, I see a feminist influence...which isn't the same thing. I see a pseudo-masculinity instead. Making the same mistakes and calling it "feminist." My daughter sees the same thing.

 

[bèlla]

I'm talking about secular roles.

Such as?

All of the women I know work for themselves. That’s the goal for many and I support it. I rarely advise anyone to go into the corporate world unless they’re acquiring experience for a future entity.

~bella

 

[ralliann]

Stop derailing the thread. Sexual abstinence is your bend not mine. I didn’t expound on the subject. If you want to address it start a new thread.

~bella

I am not derailing this thread, I addressed what you have said. You are promoting that women be celibate, and childless. And brought up "relations" in regards to sex, and fornication as well..
Don't play games here!

 

[ralliann]

I'm talking about secular roles.

I remember in the 60s when Germaine Greer spoke of women entering tradtionally masculine roles but bringing a feminine (not feminist) influence into those roles. But I don't see a feminine influence, I see a feminist influence...which isn't the same thing. I see a pseudo-masculinity instead. Making the same mistakes and calling it "feminist." My daughter sees the same thing.

There is almost a backdoor agreement with the old male chauvinism, of traditional femininity.
Marrying, having children is seen as of lesser value, of all pursuits in life

 

[bèlla]

I am not derailing this thread, I addressed what you have said. You are promoting that women be celibate, and childless. And brought up "relations" in regards to sex, and fornication as well..
Don't play games here!

I’m not promoting anything and the data is in response to a well-known prediction. Go read it.

~bella

 

[ralliann]

I’m not promoting anything and the data is in response to a well-known prediction. Go read it.

~bella

You wrote what you wrote. I simply responded. Why such a fuss?

 

[bèlla]

You wrote what you wrote. I simply responded. Why such a fuss?

You‘re wrong and if you don’t know what I was citing you should say so and ask for the resource. This isn’t a conversation about celibacy or anything related to it. The OP is clear and my comments concerning women are the other side of the phenomenon we’ve covered previously.

~bella

 

[ralliann]

You‘re wrong and if you don’t know what I was citing you should say so and ask for the resource. This isn’t a conversation about celibacy or anything related to it. The OP is clear and my comments concerning women are the other side of the phenomenon we’ve covered previously.

~bella

So touchy on simple disagreement.

 

[bèlla]

So touchy on simple disagreement.

I’m not touchy and this is my last response. I see you’ve replied to an older post elsewhere too. Your behavior is odd and I don’t have time for silliness and will block you instead.

~bella

 

[RDKirk]

Such as?

All of the women I know work for themselves.

You must be in a very select environment if all the women you know work for themselves.

That’s the goal for many and I support it. I rarely advise anyone to go into the corporate world unless they’re acquiring experience for a future entity.

~bella

IMO, most people (any race, either or any gender) do not have the capacity to run a business that will fully support them. From my experience, most people must work for the minority who do have that capability.

 

[bèlla]

You must be in a very select environment if all the women you know work for themselves.

It isn’t particular and was done by choice. Associating with people with similar goals and challenges is wise and I don’t have to censor myself.

IMO, most people (any race, either or any gender) do not have the capacity to run a business that will fully support them. From my experience, most people must work for the minority who do have that capability.

I assume you’re not acquainted with people doing so in this medium. It’s fairly common. The biggest factor is threefold. Knowing your subject, a willingness to be vulnerable if you’re just getting started and good communication skills. The women I started with were stay at home wives who didn’t have to support their families financially. They had the time and discretionary income to launch a venture without needing it to be profitable.

Where we differed from most was our willingness to pay. The majority were gleaning and looking for tidbits online. But we worked with experts from the start and continued to do so which shortened the learning curve. We shared liberally within the group including our sources and supported one another.

The biggest impediment to success online is discretionary income, lack of support and ignorance. You can learn how to build a business or platform. But if you’re going it alone with no assistance or insight on the best approach, time wasters and so on it’s going to be harder. There‘s information you won’t encounter unless you’re in a group or mastermind. It isn’t publicly available.

I use a similar technique for every area in my life. I‘m not self-taught. I acquaint myself with a subject and find an expert to help me advance and hit my target. Most of the things I know I can sell and that’s intentional too. Life didn’t happen to me. I designed the one I wanted that I could monetize. That’s my strategy.

We have to find what works for us and our circumstances. I have a vision for my bloodline and that‘s my priority. The things I do may not resonate with others because we have different convictions. I was created to rule and that’s my compass.

~bella

 

[johansen]

I’m not touchy and this is my last response. I see you’ve replied to an older post elsewhere too. Your behavior is odd and I don’t have time for silliness and will block you instead.

~bella

Your confusion here is as far back as your quote of what the other said, but you left off the question mark in his reply and then you replied as if he made a factual statement instead.

 

[Michie]

It isn’t particular and was done by choice. Associating with people with similar goals and challenges is wise and I don’t have to censor myself.



I assume you’re not acquainted with people doing so in this medium. It’s fairly common. The biggest factor is threefold. Knowing your subject, a willingness to be vulnerable if you’re just getting started and good communication skills. The women I started with were stay at home wives who didn’t have to support their families financially. They had the time and discretionary income to launch a venture without needing it to be profitable.

Where we differed from most was our willingness to pay. The majority were gleaning and looking for tidbits online. But we worked with experts from the start and continued to do so which shortened the learning curve. We shared liberally within the group including our sources and supported one another.

The biggest impediment to success online is discretionary income, lack of support and ignorance. You can learn how to build a business or platform. But if you’re going it alone with no assistance or insight on the best approach, time wasters and so on it’s going to be harder. There‘s information you won’t encounter unless you’re in a group or mastermind. It isn’t publicly available.

I use a similar technique for every area in my life. I‘m not self-taught. I acquaint myself with a subject and find an expert to help me advance and hit my target. Most of the things I know I can sell and that’s intentional too. Life didn’t happen to me. I designed the one I wanted that I could monetize. That’s my strategy.

We have to find what works for us and our circumstances. I have a vision for my bloodline and that‘s my priority. The things I do may not resonate with others because we have different convictions. I was created to rule and that’s my compass.

~bella

Why don’t you ever give a link to your business online? I’m just curious.