Lost tribes of Israel

[timothyu]

All the tribes were present in judea at the time of Christ

Remnants in Judea yes, but not in the tribe of Judah

 

[ralliann]

Remnants in Judea yes, but not in the tribe of Judah

In Christ all the Jews are in Christ. Every tribe.

 

[timothyu]

In Christ all the Jews are in Christ. Every tribe.

Again the Jews are only one tribe of 12

 

[Benaiah468]

I believe Israel is still called in Isaac, the covenant of circumcision in their flesh, is everlasting. It is an earthly covenant, and Isreal remains as long as this earth remains

Yes, the covenant of circumcision is to be understood as an earthly covenant that establishes the people of Israel as G-d's property on this earth and ensures its continued existence as long as the earth exists. In Jewish tradition, this covenant is the reason for the election of the people of Israel and is understood as a sign of belonging and faithfulness to G-od. The Bible also emphasizes that Israel's election in this covenant establishes its significance for the salvation of other nations.

 

[Benaiah468]

We have discussed how HaSatan robbed the House of Judah of the treasures given to it, such as sonship, glory, covenants, legislation and worship. And since the enemy is also a murderer, he has literally tried throughout the millennia not only to rob the Jewish people, but also to murder them. The history of hatred towards Jews is more than 2,000 years old. The Greeks, Persians and Romans already attempted to destroy the Jewish religion and convert or kill its believers. The list of pogroms aimed at exterminating the Jews is long and can already be found in the biblical narrative texts. I would like to focus here on just one tragic climax of anti-Semitic hysteria in Europe, and specifically in Germany, which marked the period of National Socialism with the Holocaust.

The reformer Martin Luther's defamatory writings around 1540, in which he described the Jews as a nation of liars and called for their extermination, had an enormous influence on later anti-Semitism.

Such a desperate, rotten, poisonous, devilish thing is this Jewish people, who have been our plague, pestilence and all misfortune for 1400 years ...

Furthermore, Luther believed that Jews were essentially parasites and conspirators. He demanded that their synagogues, schools, houses, property and writings be destroyed, adding,

if I could, I would... pierce them with my sword in my anger.

Hitler later used Luther's writings as a template for the Holocaust. For the Nazis, the Jews represented the main enemy of the Aryan race. They declared them to be a separate race and accused them of having a harmful influence on the quality of the Aryan race. Therefore, they had to be destroyed. And the pogrom or Reichskristallnacht from Nov 9 to 10 1938 coincided with Luther's birthday on Nov 10. This is a very good example of the frequencies of spiritual powers.

In an extensive Timeline of anti-Semitism, the last entry reads as follows, reproduced here in a translation into English:

On the morning of Oct 7, at around 6:30 a.m., Hamas terrorists destroyed the border fence between Israel and Gaza, and approximately 2,500 terrorists began their indiscriminate massacre at several kibbutzim, military bases, and an outdoor music festival. The number of visitors to the event alone was estimated at 3,000. In one morning, 1,400 people were murdered and over 243 hostages were taken to Gaza. This led to the current war between Israel and Hamas. The declared goal of Hamas and the Iran and other allied states behind it is the complete destruction and annihilation of the Jews. This is not a war with territorial expansion at stake, but the total annihilation of the Jews. And who is behind it? It is HaSatan himself, and that is the real battle Israel has to fight. Hamas, Iran, and their allied states are only the brutal, merciless henchmen of HaSatan. During the massacre on Oct 7, Hamas terrorists indiscriminately killed Jews, even filming these murderous scenes and proudly sending them to their relatives, who glorified these acts. An analysis of kindergarten and school materials has shown that Palestinian children are trained from an early age to hate and kill Jews through appropriate assignments.

The powers of darkness can only be defeated by the Messiah Jesus Christ

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Col 2:15

This means that the triumphant victory over these satanic powers can only be achieved through Jesus Christ.

So what can we do now?

Pray for the Jews, and especially for the government and Jewish soldiers, that they may receive a revelation about their Messiah who will help them win this satanic battle.

Are you ready to join the army of prayer?

The only prayer goal is to pray that the Jews will recognize their Messiah.

Those who feel called upon in spirit, pray with us now.

This end-time battle has now begun and will culminate in the Great Tribulation, where those who are human allies of HaSatan will go against believers worldwide, and the beheadings announced in Revelation will take place. If you still believe that you will be taken away from all this through a rapture, then wake up at last and prepare yourself for the end-time scenario. And if you even believe that only Israel will have to go through the Great Tribulation and that you will be raptured, then you are believing in yet another anti-Semitic proclamation.

Throughout the millennia, HaSatan has robbed and murdered the Jews, time and time again, including through Christians and their church fathers.

And now the enemy has introduced a new variation among believers. Namely, that the Jews are not really Jews at all. He robs them of their Jewish identity. The enemy, who is now acting so mercilessly and ruthlessly against the Jews, knows full well that they are Jews.

When believers from the nations believe that the Jews are not really Jews, they naturally leave them alone and abandon them. Is that the spirit of Moses or Apostle Paul? The people of Israel constantly grumbled and sinned by erecting the golden calf. And what did Moses say about this? He was an advocate for his people, inspired solely by the desire for salvation, and renounced the prospect of becoming a new people pleasing to YHVH.

The word that G-d had addressed to him

I will make of thee a great nation, Gen 12:2a

is not even considered by G-d's friend. Rather, he is prepared to take upon himself not only the guilt of his people, but also all its consequences. When he returns to the mountain after the destruction of the golden calf to ask again for salvation for Israel, he says to YHVH:

Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. Ex 32:32

Apostle Paul also wrote to the believers in Rome in this spirit:

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of G-d's elect? It is G-d that justifieth. Rom 8:33

And that is precisely the point at which believers accuse the Jews. Of course, there is also much sin in the house of Judah, where the Torah is read just as little as among Christians. One could list many things here. But it is all a process. Believers from the nations who did not live according to the Torah are now discovering the Torah. And Jesus forgives their sins of transgression, of not keeping the Sabbath, of celebrating pagan festivals and not his festivals, etc. The grace that has been poured out upon us is tremendous. And so YHVH also deals with the Jewish people. It is He who justifies.

Even for the Jewish state, which some believers do not consider to be given by YHVH, it is a process. After all, many Jews have returned to Israel, where Jesus will return. Without this state and the return of the Jews, Jesus would have no state to return to. If this Jewish state did not exist, where would Jesus return to? To USA? To Germany? To France or even Brazil? And in this course of salvation history, the Messiah will establish his kingdom.

There is a long line of Christian believers who, over the centuries, have stood by the Jewish people and, through their prayers, writings, and deeds, have contributed to the existence today of a Jewish state that has become a refuge for Jews from all over the world. We are in good company when we stand alongside the Jewish people today and oppose anti-Semitism, prejudice, and lies, as well as affirm Israel's right to exist in peace and security. And, of course, we should also help them financially, especially now in times of need.

The role of each individual should not be underestimated in this regard.

 

[Benaiah468]

Just as Jacob, later called Israel by G-d, had 12 sons, YHVH chose a people from 12 tribes, which is called the whole house of Israel

Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Ez 37:11

The whole house of Israel is biblically divided into the house of Judah and the house of Israel. As in Isaiah, for example:

For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry. Isa 5:7

We have been grafted into this entire house of Israel and thus belong to the confederation of Israel.

And this entire House of Israel was created for the covenant with YHVH. I repeat this again: We were created for the covenant with Yah. The covenant is characterized by the terms of the covenant, by keeping which we remain in YHVH's blessing, by transgressing which we fall under the curse.

And sin is defined in the renewed covenant, i.e., in the NT, as transgressing the terms of the covenant, more precisely as transgressing the Torah

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

Instead of lawlessness, one should say Torahlessness, because wherever Torah appears, it has been translated as law in most Bible translations, which is of course incorrect.

And now the big question arises:

How does YHVH deal with the Torahlessness of His children, that is, the whole house of Israel and those who have been grafted in?

As we read in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures, which are mistakenly called the OT, YHVH has sent His prophets over and over again throughout the centuries to preach teshubah, that is, to exhort repentance and conversion

But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the Lord of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the Lord of hosts. Zec 7:11-12

And when the people did not listen, YHVH finally intervened. For example, the house of Judah was taken into captivity in Babylon, which, as the prophet Jeremiah had announced, would last 70 years. And the house of Israel, the ten so-called lost tribes, were scattered throughout the world, where they remain to this day. But neither the house of Judah nor the house of Israel nor we who are grafted in ceased to belong to his whole house of Israel. There is even a wonderful promise for the end of days:

In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. Jer 3:18

In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their G-d. Jer 50:4

What sin did the house of Israel, that is, the ten tribes of the northern kingdom or the house of Ephraim, commit?

What sin was so great that YHVH scattered them throughout the world for over 2000 years?

These 10 tribes in the north stopped traveling to Jerusalem for the feasts and instead visited the new holy places of Dan and Bethel. In addition, they moved the autumn feasts from the seventh to the eighth month. Their motto was: The main thing is that the autumn festivals are celebrated. And this kind of sin continues in Christianity to this day, where even the Torah has been declared no longer valid for Christians.

I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. Hos 8:12

In Hebrew, law is referred to as Torah.

I think that all or almost all of those who have now or for some time recognized the Hebrew roots of their faith and have converted to the validity of the Torah had been living in the sin of Torahlessness. We have all been running to the right of the home stretch, just as many Christians are still running to the right of it now. And many from the House of Judah run to the left of the home stretch, placing Talmudic writings above the Torah and claiming that the rabbis have the final say, not YHVH. But part of the House of Judah has preserved the Torah, also for us.

Now that we, who belong to the house of Judah or the house of Ephraim, have experienced so much grace in our lives and YHVH has removed the veil from our eyes, the question arises: how do we deal with certain movements that are rising up against the Jews?

It is about buying up time and standing by their side, in prayer and practical help. And that is especially true right now, as they fight against the spirit of Hamas, which will one day turn against us as well.

Just as YHVH deals with the house of Ephraim, He will also deal with the house of Judah. And we who are grafted in or belong to one of the twelve tribes should not look down on the house of Judah with pride and arrogance, thinking we know better than they do.

 

[ralliann]

Just as Jacob, later called Israel by G-d, had 12 sons, YHVH chose a people from 12 tribes, which is called the whole house of Israel

Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Ez 37:11

The whole house of Israel is biblically divided into the house of Judah and the house of Israel. As in Isaiah, for example:

For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry. Isa 5:7

We have been grafted into this entire house of Israel and thus belong to the confederation of Israel.

And this entire House of Israel was created for the covenant with YHVH. I repeat this again: We were created for the covenant with Yah. The covenant is characterized by the terms of the covenant, by keeping which we remain in YHVH's blessing, by transgressing which we fall under the curse.

And sin is defined in the renewed covenant, i.e., in the NT, as transgressing the terms of the covenant, more precisely as transgressing the Torah

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

Instead of lawlessness, one should say Torahlessness, because wherever Torah appears, it has been translated as law in most Bible translations, which is of course incorrect.

And now the big question arises:

How does YHVH deal with the Torahlessness of His children, that is, the whole house of Israel and those who have been grafted in?

As we read in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures, which are mistakenly called the OT, YHVH has sent His prophets over and over again throughout the centuries to preach teshubah, that is, to exhort repentance and conversion

But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the Lord of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the Lord of hosts. Zec 7:11-12

And when the people did not listen, YHVH finally intervened. For example, the house of Judah was taken into captivity in Babylon, which, as the prophet Jeremiah had announced, would last 70 years. And the house of Israel, the ten so-called lost tribes, were scattered throughout the world, where they remain to this day. But neither the house of Judah nor the house of Israel nor we who are grafted in ceased to belong to his whole house of Israel. There is even a wonderful promise for the end of days:

In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. Jer 3:18

In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their G-d. Jer 50:4

What sin did the house of Israel, that is, the ten tribes of the northern kingdom or the house of Ephraim, commit?

What sin was so great that YHVH scattered them throughout the world for over 2000 years?

These 10 tribes in the north stopped traveling to Jerusalem for the feasts and instead visited the new holy places of Dan and Bethel. In addition, they moved the autumn feasts from the seventh to the eighth month. Their motto was: The main thing is that the autumn festivals are celebrated. And this kind of sin continues in Christianity to this day, where even the Torah has been declared no longer valid for Christians.

I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. Hos 8:12

In Hebrew, law is referred to as Torah.

I think that all or almost all of those who have now or for some time recognized the Hebrew roots of their faith and have converted to the validity of the Torah had been living in the sin of Torahlessness. We have all been running to the right of the home stretch, just as many Christians are still running to the right of it now. And many from the House of Judah run to the left of the home stretch, placing Talmudic writings above the Torah and claiming that the rabbis have the final say, not YHVH. But part of the House of Judah has preserved the Torah, also for us.

Now that we, who belong to the house of Judah or the house of Ephraim, have experienced so much grace in our lives and YHVH has removed the veil from our eyes, the question arises: how do we deal with certain movements that are rising up against the Jews?

It is about buying up time and standing by their side, in prayer and practical help. And that is especially true right now, as they fight against the spirit of Hamas, which will one day turn against us as well.

Just as YHVH deals with the house of Ephraim, He will also deal with the house of Judah. And we who are grafted in or belong to one of the twelve tribes should not look down on the house of Judah with pride and arrogance, thinking we know better than they do.

My opinion on all of this is......What God swore on oath to Abraham will be his inheritance. That is the kingdom we are graffed into.

1 chr 16:13 O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones.
14 He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth.
15 Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations;
16 Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac;
17 And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant,
18 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance; {the lot: Heb. the cord }
Israel remains called in Isaac, and will remain called as long as this earth endures