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Another look at the moon landing.

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Adromus as far as I know with the film it’s never been denied as not being NASA”s footage. Many claims that the producer of the film fabricated the footage. But never proven . You say that it’s nonsense Ok many have seen the film and see and think much differently and would disagree with you. As to the radiation claims by NASA the medical books prescribe a much grimmer outlook. Suddenly NASA proclaims to the medical profession it’s all going to be alright. I don’t think so
If this is still referring to "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon," it is not a NASA film but was produced and directed by conspiracy theorist Bart Sibrel, as this Wikipedia entry says:

"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon is a 2001 film written, produced and directed by Nashville-based filmmaker Bart Sibrel. Sibrel is a proponent of the conspiracy theory that the six Apollo Moon landing missions between 1969 and 1972 were elaborate hoaxes perpetrated by the United States government, including NASA."

Incidentally, the poster to whom you were replying is Prodromos, not Adromos. :)
 
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David what science and the Bible say are often on two opposite sides of the street. Everything has its natural order. Men has his limitations of where he can go. The ancient ones have already proclaimed. To whom the Gods would destroy. And so it was that Icarus flew to close to the sun
Sometimes what some scientists say does go against clear bible teaching. For example, when scientists claim that the Flood of Noah's day never happened, or that God did not create the universe. But that doesn't mean that everything said by every scientist is on the opposite side of the street to bible truth. Indeed, there are scientists associated with Creationist organisations such as "Answers in Genesis," who fully believe the bible. Icarus is not in the bible but is a character from Greek mythology. What a Greek myth has to do with bible truth I don't know.
 
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In God's real creation man is confined to the earth God has created for his creation to live and reproduce on. Man like the birds God created, have been given the ability to simply fly across the face of the earth in the raqia (sky, dome, expanse). But that is the extent of mans ability to actually leave the physical land/ground of the earth.

Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the raqia (sky, dome, expanse) of the heavens.”

These science lies about God's creation staring back some 2000+ years age with a globe earth from pagan cultures. Has been accepted into the beliefs of churches who identify with The God of The Bible. Just like Israel adopted the idol worship of pagan cultures that surrounded them in their lives.

This moving away from belief in God's true creation has manifested it's self in other areas of un-Bibical beliefs also throughout churches around the earth. And is exhibited in the development of the divisions of the denomination, in Biblical beliefs.
Nonsense. God created science and a magnificent universe full of stars and planets.
 
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God created science and a magnificent universe full of stars and planets.

I know he did, so why didn't the astronauts report seeing any of this ?
 
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What I am saying is that the Van Allen belts did not prevent the astronauts from travelling to the moon. It is not just NASA that says the astronauts came safely back. The source I quoted was an o-line periodical called "Popular Science," not NASA.
David what science and the Bible say are often on two opposite sides of the street. Everything has its natural order. Men has his limitations of whe he can go. The ancient ones have already proclaimed. To whom the Gods would destroy. And do it was that Icarus flew too flew to close the sun
If this is still referring to "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon," it is not a NASA film but was produced and directed by conspiracy theorist Bart Sibrel, as this Wikipedia entry says:

"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon is a 2001 film written, produced and directed by Nashville-based filmmaker Bart Sibrel. Sibrel is a proponent of the conspiracy theory that the six Apollo Moon landing missions between 1969 and 1972 were elaborate hoaxes perpetrated by the United States government, including NASA."

Incidentally, the poster to whom you were replying is Prodromos, not Adromos. :)
David that’s right Bart was the producer. In what way does that not make it NASA film footage ? And in what way does Barts view points change the reality of what the Apollo 11 tape shows. So what was the intention of your post. From what I read and ascertain from your reply you are trying to portray Bart as tinfoil hat nutter. David thank you for the correction with prodromos’s name spelling typos happen.
 
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I know he did, so why didn't the astronauts report seeing any of this ?
They absolutely did. Also, look at the magnificent pictures that the Hubble and James Webb telescopes take every day. Paul says in Rom. 1 that no one is without excuse because God’s creation is testimony of His existence. His creation extends to all of the universe not just Earth.
 
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Sometimes what some scientists say does go against clear bible teaching. For example, when scientists claim that the Flood of Noah's day never happened, or that God did not create the universe. But that doesn't mean that everything said by every scientist is on the opposite side of the street to bible truth. Indeed, there are scientists associated with Creationist organisations such as "Answers in Genesis," who fully believe the bible. Icarus is not in the bible but is a character from Greek mythology. What a Greek myth has to do with bible truth I don't know.
Well yes of course scientists be a mixed bag in what they proclaim about anything in their viewpoint's. And of course the Greek myth of Icarus not be from the Bible . Nether the less it be a warning to those who choose to go outside the natural order of things
 
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David what science and the Bible say are often on two opposite sides of the street. Everything has its natural order. Men has his limitations of whe he can go. The ancient ones have already proclaimed. To whom the Gods would destroy. And do it was that Icarus flew too flew to close the sun

David that’s right Bart was the producer. In what way does that not make it NASA film footage ? And in what way does Barts view points change the reality of what the Apollo 11 tape shows. So what was the intention of your post. From what I read and ascertain from your reply you are trying to portray Bart as tinfoil hat nutter. David thank you for the correction with prodromos’s name spelling typos happen.
NASA never made such a film and my father in law worked in the Apollo program. Apollo 11 absolutely landed on the moon.
 
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David what science and the Bible say are often on two opposite sides of the street. Everything has its natural order. Men has his limitations of whe he can go. The ancient ones have already proclaimed. To whom the Gods would destroy. And do it was that Icarus flew too flew to close the sun

David that’s right Bart was the producer. In what way does that not make it NASA film footage ? And in what way does Barts view points change the reality of what the Apollo 11 tape shows. So what was the intention of your post. From what I read and ascertain from your reply you are trying to portray Bart as tinfoil hat nutter. David thank you for the correction with prodromos’s name spelling typos happen.
OK, I have not watched the film, but you seem to be saying that he claimed to include in his film some NASA footage. My question would be, what evidence is there that it is indeed genuine NASA footage?

Don't worry about the typo - most of us make them from time to time. I'm just glad you don't seem to have taken offence - certainly none was intended.
 
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NASA never made such a film and my father in law worked in the Apollo program. Apollo 11 absolutely landed on the moon.
Hentenza many of thousands of people worked on NASA projects but does that prove that they landed on the moon. You have the right to believe as you wish. ♥️
 
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OK, I have not watched the film, but you seem to be saying that he claimed to include in his film some NASA footage. My question would be, what evidence is there that it is indeed genuine NASA footage?

Don't worry about the typo - most of us make them from time to time. I'm just glad you don't seem to have taken offence - certainly none was intended.
David I would encourage you to watch. the canister in which the film was delivered from the archives from NASA looks genuine and it wasn’t something that Bart was expecting in the many NASA films he had searched over for his documentary. But one thing is certain it is definitely the Apollo 11 crew. As to Bart himself I’ve done some study on him. Sometimes he can be as mad as a mad hatter with his testimony. More so with all the attempted assassinations upon his life that he has claimed by the government even so much with him being sent to a mental asylum in an attempt to have him declared as insane. A little bit to much for me to swallow in that regard as being true . But that does not take away from his discovery of what he brings forth on his discovery from out of NASA reel. It is some late our part of world . I bid you the good nite from our part of the world. And wish you the nice afternoon day in your UK . Kathleen ‍
 
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No they didn't not, not one astronaut reported seeing the stars, especially on the Apollo 11 mission.
All of them did. Don’t drink the kool aid.
 
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Hentenza many of thousands of people worked on NASA projects but does that prove that they landed on the moon. You have the right to believe as you wish. ♥️
My father in law was part of the team that designed the legs of the lunar lander. The lunar lander landed on the moon surface.

Secondly, thousands of people did indeed worked on the Apollo program and that would mean that thousands of people would have to be lying which s quite absurd.
 
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All of them did. Don’t drink the kool aid.
The astronauts were unable to see stars due to light refraction from being on the bright side of the moon. Basically even though the sky was black due to lack of an atmosphere, it was still daytime.
 
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The astronauts were unable to see stars due to light refraction from being on the bright side of the moon. Basically even though the sky was black due to lack of an atmosphere, it was still daytime.
The astronauts saw the stars on the way to the moon and on the way back. You are correct that the daylight reflection on the moon surface precluded them from seeing stars while in the moon surface.
 
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