Another look at the moon landing.

[prodromos]

If you've ever watched the film 'Batteries not included ' you'd know.

It's a children's movie. I watched it a long time ago. I still don’t know why it amuses you.
One thing about the movie I hadn't realised at the time, the actors Hume Cronyn and Jessica Tandy were actually husband and wife.
And I just realised they played a married couple in Cocoon as well. What a beautiful couple they were.

 

[d taylor]

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In God's real creation man is confined to the earth God has created for his creation to live and reproduce on. Man like the birds God created, have been given the ability to simply fly across the face of the earth in the raqia (sky, dome, expanse). But that is the extent of mans ability to actually leave the physical land/ground of the earth.

Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the raqia (sky, dome, expanse) of the heavens.”

These science lies about God's creation staring back some 2000+ years age with a globe earth from pagan cultures. Has been accepted into the beliefs of churches who identify with The God of The Bible. Just like Israel adopted the idol worship of pagan cultures that surrounded them in their lives.

This moving away from belief in God's true creation has manifested it's self in other areas of un-Bibical beliefs also throughout churches around the earth. And is exhibited in the development of the divisions of the denomination, in Biblical beliefs.

 

[David Lamb]

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In God's real creation man is confined to the earth God has created for his creation to live and reproduce on. Man like the birds God created, have been given the ability to simply fly across the face of the earth in the raqia (sky, dome, expanse). But that is the extent of mans ability to actually leave the physical land/ground of the earth.

Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the raqia (sky, dome, expanse) of the heavens.”

These science lies about God's creation staring back some 2000+ years age with a globe earth from pagan cultures. Has been accepted into the beliefs of churches who identify with The God of The Bible. Just like Israel adopted the idol worship of pagan cultures that surrounded them in their lives.

This moving away from belief in God's true creation has manifested it's self in other areas of un-Bibical beliefs also throughout churches around the earth. And is exhibited in the development of the divisions of the denomination, in Biblical beliefs.

But as you say, God's word talks about the sky being where birds fly. If space rockets are wrong, then so are hot-air balloons, aeroplanes, and helicopters. The bible doesn't mention the sea as being a place to swim or sail boats, but God's word mentions both without condemning such activities.

 

[Apple Sky]

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In God's real creation man is confined to the earth God has created for his creation to live and reproduce on. Man like the birds God created, have been given the ability to simply fly across the face of the earth in the raqia (sky, dome, expanse). But that is the extent of mans ability to actually leave the physical land/ground of the earth.

Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the raqia (sky, dome, expanse) of the heavens.”

These science lies about God's creation staring back some 2000+ years age with a globe earth from pagan cultures. Has been accepted into the beliefs of churches who identify with The God of The Bible. Just like Israel adopted the idol worship of pagan cultures that surrounded them in their lives.

This moving away from belief in God's true creation has manifested it's self in other areas of un-Bibical beliefs also throughout churches around the earth. And is exhibited in the development of the divisions of the denomination, in Biblical beliefs.

I couldn't have put it better myself, well said.

 

[Strong in Him]

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In God's real creation man is confined to the earth God has created for his creation to live and reproduce on. Man like the birds God created, have been given the ability to simply fly across the face of the earth in the raqia (sky, dome, expanse). But that is the extent of mans ability to actually leave the physical land/ground of the earth.

It clearly isn't, it's just that you don't believe it.

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These science lies about God's creation staring back some 2000+ years age with a globe earth from pagan cultures. Has been accepted into the beliefs of churches who identify with The God of The Bible. Just like Israel adopted the idol worship of pagan cultures that surrounded them in their lives.

The Bible says that God created the heavens, the earth and everything that we see around us today, John 1:3.
It does not tell us how he created it, how long it took him or what shape he made it. That is not the purpose of the Bible.

This moving away from belief in God's true creation

I don't know of any churches which teach that God did not make the world/universe.

has manifested it's self in other areas of un-Bibical beliefs also throughout churches around the earth.

Such as?

 

[Apple Sky]

But as you say, God's word talks about the sky being where birds fly. If space rockets are wrong, then so are hot-air balloons, aeroplanes, and helicopters. The bible doesn't mention the sea as being a place to swim or sail boats, but God's word mentions both without condemning such activities.

IMO if God had meant for us to fly, he would have given us wings and the ability to breath in space, this supposed walking on the moon is against God's natural creation.

I know we jet off around the world but just look at the air disasters we have encountered & what is the first thing the victims do, blame God.

 

[David Lamb]

IMO if God had meant for us to fly, he would have given us wings and the ability to breath in space, this supposed walking on the moon is against God's natural creation.

I know we jet off around the world but just look at the air disasters we have encountered & what is the first thing the victims do, blame God.

Are you also against diving, or climbing high mountains? Both require breathing apparatus. As for air disasters, yes, they can be terrible, but so can shipwrecks; we only have to think of the Titanic, on which about 1,500 people died.

I agree that people, especially people who say they don't even believe in Him, blame God for accidents, and that is wrong.

 

[Apple Sky]

Are you also against diving, or climbing high mountains? Both require breathing apparatus.

I'm against anything that requires breathing apparatus to do it.

 

[Kathleen30]

So you would rather believe this video claiming to show astronauts faking the moon trip than the Christian testimony of an astronaut like Charles Duke saying that he did indeed go to the moon? Are you saying, as Apple Sky does, that he was lying?

David I can only go what the NASA footage shows me and that’s shows the Apollo crew clearly staging a fake scenario claiming to be out in deep space when they are still in earths orbit. You ask of the Christian one Charles Duke. My reply to your question would be. Did any astronaut really pass through the Van Allen’s belt before even setting foot on the moon. You must remember there Be no medical journal that speaks favourably of the affects of radiation in doing so and of no adequate protection to suffice . One poster wrote they were going fast enough to not really be affected. But even with the alleged shorter journey through Van Ellen’s belt your still dealing with 3 hours

 

[Strong in Him]

IMO if God had meant for us to fly, he would have given us wings and the ability to breath in space,

You could equally say, "if God had meant us to swim he would have given us fins, scales and the ability to breathe under water."
That's an illogical argument.

this supposed walking on the moon is against God's natural creation.

Every time you say, "so called walking on the moon" or "apparent walking on the moon" , you are reinforcing your insistence that all the eyewitnesses were lying.
Then, when someone else talks about an aspect of the moon landings, the first thing you say is, "prove it."

I know we jet off around the world but just look at the air disasters we have encountered

And just look at those that we haven't encountered - all the thousands of successful flights to see loved ones, go on business trips or even to travel to the Holy Land to see where Jesus lived and ministered.
Paul and the other Apostles would absolutely have made use of aeroplanes in their work of spreading the Gospel.

& what is the first thing the victims do, blame God.

People blame God for all sorts, and question his apparent inability to stop suffering.
You might as well say, "let's ban food, because some people choke to death, get food poisoning, have allergies etc and blame God for that". "Let's not build any tall buildings because some people might jump off them, end their lives and their families will blame God".
"Let's ban computers, because some people use them to access filth and evil or research ways to kill themselves. Then people blame God for the increase in rape and murder."

In fact you could legitimately say, "let's ban conspiracy theories", after the recent case of a former nurse who denied her daughter chemotherapy and she died. The mother is now facing prosecution.

That some people choose to blame God for something, is not a reason to ban it.

 

[Strong in Him]

I'm against anything that requires breathing apparatus to do it.

If you had a severe respiratory illness you might need "breathing apparatus" to stay alive.

Besides, if you don't like the idea of mountain climbing or deep sea diving, you don't have to do it.

 

[Apple Sky]

That some people choose to blame God for something, is not a reason to ban it.

Did I say to ban it ?

Besides, if you don't like the idea of mountain climbing or deep sea diving, you don't have to do it.

Correct & I never would put myself at risk.

 

[Strong in Him]

Did I say to ban it ?

That was the implication - it's wrong, unnatural and people shouldn't do it.

Correct & I never would put myself at risk.

Crossing the road is a risk. In some places, walking down the street is a risk.
Going to sleep is a "risk" - you can't prove that you will wake up again.

If done properly, with safety equipment etc, risks can be minimized. This is how great discoveries are made and people achieve amazing things.

 

[Strong in Him]

Conspiracy theories are risky.
They can seriously challenge your patience and intelligence.

 

[Apple Sky]

Going to sleep is a "risk" - you can't prove that you will wake up again.

I hope I don't.

 

[David Lamb]

I'm against anything that requires breathing apparatus to do it.

What about travelling by car, rather than on foot, or by horse-drawn carriage? What about communicating by phone or internet, both of which these days rely on satellites?

 

[Strong in Him]

I hope I don't.

We don't.

 

[Apple Sky]

Conspiracy theories are risky.
They can seriously challenge your patience and intelligence.

They can be risky, but what they do is give one a broader out look into reality & sometimes the truth, and they also allow person to join up the dots.

 

[Apple Sky]

What about travelling by car, rather than on foot, or by horse-drawn carriage? What about communicating by phone or internet, both of which these days rely on satellites?

I don't think any of the above requires breathing equipment.

 

[David Lamb]

David I can only go what the NASA footage shows me and that’s shows the Apollo crew clearly staging a fake scenario claiming to be out in deep space when they are still in earths orbit. You ask of the Christian one Charles Duke. My reply to your question would be. Did any astronaut really pass through the Van Allen’s belt before even setting foot on the moon. You must remember there Be no medical journal that speaks favourably of the affects of radiation in doing so and of no adequate protection to suffice . One poster wrote they were going fast enough to not really be affected. But even with the alleged shorter journey through Van Ellen’s belt your still dealing with 3 hours

So if Charles Duke didn't really go to the moon, as he says he did as part of his testimony as a Christian, he must have been lying, in your view.

Regarding danger to the astronauts from radiation from the belts, I came across this site, Apollo Rocketed Through the Van Allen Belts which includes the following paragraph:


"To monitor radiation exposure during the flights, Apollo crews carried dosimeters on board their spacecraft and on their persons. And these readings confirmed NASA had made a good choice. At the end of the program, the agency determined that its astronauts had avoided the large radiation doses many feared would ground flights to the Moon. Over the course of the lunar missions, astronauts were exposed to doses lower than the yearly 5 rem average experienced by workers with the Atomic Energy Commission who regularly deal with radioactive materials. And in no case did any astronaut experience any debilitating medical or biological effects. And beside, the Apollo astronauts were former test pilots. Flying to the Moon, radiation exposure included, was still a safer day at the office than putting an experimental aircraft through its paces in the skies above Edwards Air Force Base."