Why do people hate ICE...

[rambot]

When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3


If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

 

[dogs4thewin]

When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3


If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

I personally do not hate ICE, but I do feel that the thing has been mishandled. The way I see it is if a person is here illegally and that is their only crime leave them be. Now, if they are committing other offenses and/or they are using government resources then sure get them out, but still do so with respect

 

[Delvianna]

There are always going to be people with issues in every organization. While there are dirty cops, I don't hate all cops because their job is to keep the streets safe. Same with ICE. The point of ICE is to detain and deport people who are here illegally. I agree with this. Allowing people to come into our country illegally, only invites people who have criminal history, gangs and other people that are trying to destroy our country from within. I have no issues with asylum seekers or people who want a better life for their family, but hopping the boarder is not the way to do this. And if you disagree with this idea, people should be then trying to change the law, rather than barricading ICE agents in with their cars and pointing guns at them. Or doxing them by posting their home address online so people can go attack their family... This is how bad things happen... and how people are pushed to do things they normally wouldn't do because they feel threatened. I'm not saying its correct or right, but cause and effect comes into play.

 

[iluvatar5150]

When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3


If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

I'm amazed they've only had one crazy shooter target them.

 

[Fantine]

Their reputation for cruelty, viciousness, arresting first and confirming lack of documentation later, zip tying children and the elderly, etc. Is well documented and well deserved.
A school board member in our town was accosted and detained fishing in the park, and she had to call an immigration lawyer to eventually get released.
They have quotas and can only fill them by grabbing the harmless and hardworking, disrupting families and terrorizing neighborhoods.
I have heard other personal stories--none good.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3


If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

Well because they ruse immigrants.
They use the "administrative warrant" as a ruse to gain entry into a home, a practice sanctioned by ICE to overcome the lack of judicial authority. They rely on the warrant's official appearance to pressure or trick them into giving consent, which is the only way an administrative warrant allows them into a private residence. Basically, they are lying .

Just one of many reasons.

 

[bèlla]

Sometimes the government surprises me.

The Department of Homeland Security has shared a montage of ICE raids alongside clips and music from the Pokemon theme song, as the Trump administration continues to ramp up its hardline stance on immigration. In the compilation of footage, which was posted on Monday (22 September), enforcement agents can be seen arresting individuals, whilst clips of the popular anime show are interspersed throughout. The one-minute video, captioned with “Gotta Catch ‘em All!”, ends with Pokemon cards showing the people arrested and their alleged crimes.

~bella

 

[rambot]

Sometimes the government surprises me.

The Department of Homeland Security has shared a montage of ICE raids alongside clips and music from the Pokemon theme song, as the Trump administration continues to ramp up its hardline stance on immigration. In the compilation of footage, which was posted on Monday (22 September), enforcement agents can be seen arresting individuals, whilst clips of the popular anime show are interspersed throughout. The one-minute video, captioned with “Gotta Catch ‘em All!”, ends with Pokemon cards showing the people arrested and their alleged crimes.

~bella

About THIS administration? That surprised you?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I don’t hate ICE. I hate what they’re doing to people, both American and non. There’s no excuse for the level of cruelty and underhanded tactics they are employing in their mission.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I don’t hate ICE. I hate what they’re doing to people, both American and non. There’s no excuse for the level of cruelty and underhanded tactics they are employing in their mission.

They're being used by a fascist regime, and thus they are acting as a fascist arm.

It doesn't help, either, that they pretty much have a "Come join ICE, you can hurt brown people and make money!" inviting all manner of scumbags to come wear a mask and violate the rights of the American people.

I mean, seriously, this is the official website right now:

America Needs You

www.ice.gov

-CryptoLutheran

 

[stevevw]

When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3


If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

Basically there are two main positions on Immigration law. Those who want safety and secuirty of borders but also law and order in society. Then there are the radical Marxist ideologues who want open borders and defund the police as they believe there should be no borders and law and order is oppression.

They oppose government power to enforce laws and want a free for all in the name of a DEI utopia. Pie in the sky stuff. Its often decends into violence because if we look at all the groups who have this ideology they end up using terror to achieve the destruction of the percieved oppressors.

ICE is seen as an arm of the oppressor Trump who is a Nazi and fascists that must be stopped. Just applying the normal law enforcement that any rational society would apply to keep their borders safe is deemed as oppression and therefore this must be met with terror.

Its more or less the same ideology as Islamists. Except rather than a Caliphate and Sharia law or bringing about Allahs rule. The Marxists ideologues want a Socialist utopia of some sort where all outcomes are equal. BUt both percieve the world as there being oppressors and infidels that must be stopped with violence and terror.

They see the world as oppressors and victims so every action against the percieved oppressed which includes terrorist groups and harden criminals and organisations is seen as oppression and must be met with terror.

They have the perfect army in that many are already criminals, gangs, organised crime and terror groups that are utilising the deluded western ideologues who fall for all this ideological thinking. The two have some weird cojoining like we see with groups like Queers for Palestine and Hamas. Its a strange phenomena.

But their common hate for all things western, whites, Jews and Christians unites them.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Because some people want to morally fetishize illegal immigrants…

 

[rambot]

Basically there are two main positions on Immigration law. Those who want safety and secuirty of borders but also law and order in society. Then there are the radical Marxist ideologues who want open borders and defund the police as they believe there should be no borders and law and order is oppression.

This could be the most stupid thing ive read in at least a few days.

Your characterization seems so utterly bereft of reality it's like you didn't even need to think when you posted this at all.


Honestly do you want to have a discussion based on reality or is this juat gonna be some Trump repeating drivel?

Because intelligent people won't be interested in that.

 

[rambot]

Because some people want to morally fetishize illegal immigrants…

Trying to morally defend bullies is a pretty subpar move for what should be a compassionate person.

 

[Servus]

To be more specific; the radical left hates ICE. And and they crank out gobs of misinformation propaganda aginst them.

 

[Servus]

Trying to morally defend bullies is a pretty subpar move for what should be a compassionate person.

According to the left pretty much any cops upholding the law are bullies. That's why the police in democrat run cities are told to stand down and do nothing.

 

[Larniavc]

When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3


If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

Paramilitary organisations attract the kind of people who like to exercise power over people and those types are often more than happy to use bully boy tactics on people in a demographic they already feel slighted by.

And that kind of people are colloquially known as ‘wrong ‘uns’.

 

[stevevw]

This could be the most stupid thing ive read in at least a few days.

Your characterization seems so utterly bereft of reality it's like you didn't even need to think when you posted this at all.


Honestly do you want to have a discussion based on reality or is this juat gonna be some Trump repeating drivel?

Because intelligent people won't be interested in that.

These are real political ideas being supported and promoted. History repeating itself.

What is the Left case for open borders?

What is the Left case for open borders? – Political Critique [DISCONTINUED]

politicalcritique.org

5.2: Marxism, Migrants and Borders

5.2: Marxism, Migrants and Borders

socialsci.libretexts.org

 

[rambot]

To be more specific; the radical left hates ICE. And and they crank out gobs of misinformation propaganda aginst them.

Videos of their impropriety are not propaganda.

Some don't hate ICE and some do. Ultimatwly we ALL hate the way they are executing orders. And we hate the orders being given to them.

How many times foes tour ilk need to be told til you can parse out the difference between those two ideas?

And so does the biggest church in the US.