How much of your income are you willing to have taken for taxpayer funded healthcare.

[o_mlly]

Would not having better and more reliable access to health care, including preventative care (as opposed to only having access to an ER) help achieve those lifestyle changes you mentioned?

-- A2SG, and thus make inroads on the other stuff you cited....

I don't think so.

Surely, increasing access would increase costs .. not good. But how would increasing visits to a PCP provide a reversal to "declining birthrates, preventable risks like smoking, obesity, poor diet, and substance abuse"? Do you suppose that those who have developed such unhealthy lifestyles don't know that those lifestyles are unhealthy? Do they need to see a doctor to tell them so because they have no real friends who will tell them so for free?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Right now, if I include my deductible and Medicare taxes, about 10% of my income goes towards healthcare. That doesn't count the 75% of my insurance premium that my employer pays or their contribution to my HSA though. Figuring those in, nearly 20% of my total compensation goes towards healthcare.

 

[BCP1928]

I don't think so.

Surely, increasing access would increase costs .. not good. But how would increasing visits to a PCP provide a reversal to "declining birthrates, preventable risks like smoking, obesity, poor diet, and substance abuse"? Do you suppose that those who have developed such unhealthy lifestyles don't know that those lifestyles are unhealthy? Do they need to see a doctor to tell them so because they have no real friends who will tell them so for free?

Obviously, we should all turn to you for our healthcare advice.

 

[o_mlly]

Obviously, we should all turn to you for our healthcare advice.

Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

Home - Welcome to Obecity, USA
Obesity-related costs surpass $1.5 trillion a year, impacting every aspect of American life. 50% of adults and 26.3% of children ages 5 - 9 have obesity.

 

[BCP1928]

Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

Home - Welcome to Obecity, USA
Obesity-related costs surpass $1.5 trillion a year, impacting every aspect of American life. 50% of adults and 26.3% of children ages 5 - 9 have obesity.

OK, The only reason poor people ever get sick is because they are lazy and don't eat right. They never get diseases which a regular check up could detect before they became crippling or fatal or very expensive to treat. That's brilliant. See, I told you we should all turn to you for medical advice.

 

[Belk]

Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

Home - Welcome to Obecity, USA
Obesity-related costs surpass $1.5 trillion a year, impacting every aspect of American life. 50% of adults and 26.3% of children ages 5 - 9 have obesity.

Anyone who thinks quitting smoking or illegal drugs is easy has no clue what they are talking about.

 

[o_mlly]

OK, The only reason poor people ever get sick is because they are lazy and don't eat right. They never get diseases which a regular check up could detect before they became crippling or fatal or very expensive to treat. That's brilliant. See, I told you we should all turn to you for medical advice.

? I never mentioned being poor as a cause. Medicaid is available for those poor people with health issues.

 

[o_mlly]

Anyone who thinks quitting smoking or illegal drugs is easy has no clue what they are talking about.

I quit smoking some time ago. Hardest thing I ever had to do. But I loved my wife and children enough to deny myself this self-destructive habit.

 

[RDKirk]

Right now, if I include my deductible and Medicare taxes, about 10% of my income goes towards healthcare. That doesn't count the 75% of my insurance premium that my employer pays or their contribution to my HSA though. Figuring those in, nearly 20% of my total compensation goes towards healthcare.

Well, your employer isn't paying that 75% out of company profits. That's added to the cost of whatever goods or services your company provides to its customers. So, a certain percentage of the price we pay for everything is also the cost we're all currently paying for health insurance.

 

[NxNW]

Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

Michelle Obama tried to encourage healthy eating for school children, but the GOP opposed it. The GOP tends to encourage smoking and oppose any and all attempts to encourage healthy lifestyles. It's GOP policy that you oppose here.

 

[Belk]

I quit smoking some time ago. Hardest thing I ever had to do. But I loved my wife and children enough to deny myself this self-destructive habit.

I managed to quit as well. As you said it was very difficult. But that puts the lie to your claim it is easy to stop living an unhealthy lifestyle. The simple truth is that having regular access to medical care highly correlates with making better lifestyle and health choices.

 

[o_mlly]

Michelle Obama tried to encourage healthy eating for school children, but the GOP opposed it. The GOP tends to encourage smoking and oppose any and all attempts to encourage healthy lifestyles. It's GOP policy that you oppose here.

Nope. Your first link does not work. As to your MSNBC, link ... that's just not a reliable source for facts. Indeed, it's just an oped pierce. Try again.

 

[o_mlly]

I managed to quit as well. As you said it was very difficult. But that puts the lie to your claim it is easy to stop living an unhealthy lifestyle. The simple truth is that having regular access to medical care highly correlates with making better lifestyle and health choices.

? Making things up? I did not write that "it is easy to stop living an unhealthy lifestyle". In fact, in my personal testimony, I acknowledged that it was not.

I know you want to put the "word" lie in a sentence regarding my post, but please you really should try harder.

 

[RDKirk]

Nope. Your first link does not work. As to your MSNBC, link ... that's just not a reliable source for facts. Indeed, it's just an oped pierce. Try again.

Some of us were there and remember. The GOP savagely attacked Michelle Obama's initiative even though she was merely promoting what the FDA had been saying for a decade. The GOP was simply in "attack mode" against anything she had to say.

 

[Belk]

Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

Home - Welcome to Obecity, USA
Obesity-related costs surpass $1.5 trillion a year, impacting every aspect of American life. 50% of adults and 26.3% of children ages 5 - 9 have obesity.

? Making things up? I did not write that "it is easy to stop living an unhealthy lifestyle". In fact, in my personal testimony, I acknowledged that it was not.

I know you want to put the "word" lie in a sentence regarding my post, but please you really should try harder.

That is exactly what you wrote. I even underlined it to try to focus on the exact phrase I was addressing.

 

[o_mlly]

Some of us were there and remember. The GOP savagely attacked Michelle Obama's initiative even though she was merely promoting what the FDA had been saying for a decade. The GOP was simply in "attack mode" against anything she had to say.

Do you have a report from a reliable source that confirms your allegation?

 

[o_mlly]

That is exactly what you wrote. I even underlined it to try to focus on the exact phrase I was addressing.

The solution is easy ... stop behaving irresponsibly. The task to do so is arduous.

 

[Belk]

The solution is easy ... stop behaving irresponsibly. The task to do so is arduous.

Thank you for the clarification. I would further clarify that the solution is easy to understand, but hard to implement.

 

[BCP1928]

Do you have a report from a reliable source that confirms your allegation?

If you were born before about 1995 there is no use pretending that you don't think it's true.

 

[RDKirk]

Do you have a report from a reliable source that confirms your allegation?

Some of us were there and remember.