Emergency abortion denials by Catholic hospitals put woman in danger, after her water broke at 17 weeks, lawsuit claims

[Hvizsgyak]

Women face death because they cannot be certain of getting the medical care that they need, but your take-away was Christians are the real victims! ?

Since you don't seem to be a believer (you may but from your comments, it doesn't sound like it), you probably have no problem performing an abortion on an alive unborn child. But there are many, may doctors and medical staff who are disgusted by abortion. And they may just work more in Christian Hospitals that have the guidelines - No Abortions Performed Here. So as our good friend EssentiaSaltes poorly points out that:

The hospital doesn't have any feelings. It's only a legal person, not a real person.

He doesn't realize that "real" people have to perform these abortions (against their moral judgement which can be very damaging to a person's psyche). You people think killing an unborn child is nothing. You are the barbarians. We have a God who despises the murdering of unborn children and His followers feel the same way and they practice medicine in Christian Hospitals.

 

[essentialsaltes]

He doesn't realize that "real" people have to perform these abortions (against their moral judgement ...

We don't know anything about the moral judgments of these hospital employees who are trained physicians.
We only know about the illegal hospital policy.

 

[comana]

Since you don't seem to be a believer (you may but from your comments, it doesn't sound like it), you probably have no problem performing an abortion on an alive unborn child. But there are many, may doctors and medical staff who are disgusted by abortion. And they may just work more in Christian Hospitals that have the guidelines - No Abortions Performed Here. So as our good friend EssentiaSaltes poorly points out that:



He doesn't realize that "real" people have to perform these abortions (against their moral judgement which can be very damaging to a person's psyche). You people think killing an unborn child is nothing. You are the barbarians. We have a God who despises the murdering of unborn children and His followers feel the same way and they practice medicine in Christian Hospitals.

You don’t Ned to be a pro life Christian to work in these Catholic hospitals. I’m sure at least one of their OB doctors has no issue with abortion ending an unviable pregnancy.

 

[essentialsaltes]

You don’t Ned to be a pro life Christian to work in these Catholic hospitals. I’m sure at least one of their OB doctors has no issue with abortion ending an unviable pregnancy.

In threads about the Texas abortion ban, and some tragic situations that resulted from it, some posters were swearing up and down that in this situation it isn't an abortion, and that it was the doctors who were wrong or willfully misunderstanding the law to make the law look bad (at the cost of their patient's lives).

 

[MarkSB]

With much hesitation I get involved in this thread...

If she had trouble getting the hospital to perform an abortion the first time, you'd think she would go to another hospital that would handle the situation. Once again, a poster is trying to unsuccessfully show that a religious person or institute is some kind of hypocrite. Practically everybody knows that most Catholic (and Protestant) hospitals do not perform abortions so why test one's fate? Yes, the hospital looks like a piece of trash to most of you for not doing the abortion but sorry, they don't do abortions. And hopefully, they will drop California as a place to practice because of all the hostility the California government puts on people who are anti-abortion/pro-life. And you can twist the words all you want - the hospital is still a Pro-Life Sanctuary.

Focusing on just the last sentence in this statement: Christians (TM) like to throw around the pro-life catch phrase like it makes them better and more holy than everyone else. In other words, if you are against abortion no matter what the circumstances, that is the mark of a true Christian.

I am very strongly pro-life (even stronger than you in my actions, I imagine) - but the notion that denying life saving medical care in circumstances such as these is good and holy is utter nonsense. Instead of viewing the situation for what it is and approaching it with humility and understanding, you approach it with (apparent) haughtiness, apathy, and indifference. Proclaiming a Catholic hospital to be a "pro-life sanctuary" when such a case is presented is a perfect example of that.

I'm very much in favor of protecting unborn life. But when you approach it with legalism and an obvious desire for moral superiority, it ceases to be the holy and righteous thing which you are proclaiming it to be.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

So here is the situation, as I stated to one of the other posters, I feel bad for the lady who went through the whole ordeal the first time. Unfortunately, she ends up doing the same thing (going to the same hospital that denied her the treatment the first time) a second time. Again, I feel bad for the lady but I would have made the decision to go to another (non-Christian hospital) the next time.

But again, this isn't my problem with the whole posting. My problem with this posting is it being placed here on a Christian Forum. What's the point? To let us know how bad Christians Hospitals are for denying to abort a living child in the womb because the hospital doesn't perform abortions (even if the mother's life is in danger)? We know bad things like this happen in real life. We don't need them shoved in our faces implying heavily, "See, this is why we can't ban abortions in the US". If the poster was someone who didn't continue to throw stones at Christians for every little thing they do wrong, I wouldn't have reacted the way I did. But they send post after post after post of story that smack Christians in the face.