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I see that you aren't responding to my question as to whether or not they were committing the crimes that the illegals here are committing--and then being released back onto the street after being caught for.
Try answering my question rather than attempting to paint a specific narrative.
I did not answer because it has a false premise --> That Hitler wasn't slandering the Jews -->That the Jews were committing crimes --> Jews were eating the cats and the dogs and the pets of the people that live there.
 
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And what were those "crimes"?

[Opinions expressed are derived from historical Nazi Propaganda.]

Jews were associated with money-lenders, usury and banks, and were portrayed as the enemy of small shopkeepers, small farmers and artisans.[11] Jews were blamed for the League of Nations, for pacifism, for Marxism, for international capitalism, for homosexuality, for prostitution, and for the cultural changes of the 1920s

After six issues devoted to ethnic pride, Neues Volkfeatured an article on the types of the "Criminal Jew"; [including pickpocket, con man, drug dealer, fence and passport counterfeiter] in later issues, it urged no sympathy for victims of the Nuremberg laws, while arguing that its reader could see Jewish life going on about them, unpersecuted.

'Look, those Jews are walking around free, enjoying themselves, despite all their crimes.'
 
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I did not answer because it has a false premise --> That Hitler wasn't slandering the Jews -->That the Jews were committing crimes --> Jews were eating the cats and the dogs and the pets of the people that live there.
Then a simple "No" answer would have sufficed. Instead, you avoided the question and attempted to change the narrative.

Remember, you originally said:
You worry too much. All I said is Trump was expressing the same sentiments against others as Nazi's expressed against Jews, and I don't like slander.
If the sentiments he expressed against illegal immigrants who come here and commit violent crimes against Americans are accurate, then why do you have a problem with it?
 
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[Opinions expressed are derived from historical Nazi Propaganda.]

Jews were associated with money-lenders, usury and banks, and were portrayed as the enemy of small shopkeepers, small farmers and artisans.[11] Jews were blamed for the League of Nations, for pacifism, for Marxism, for international capitalism, for homosexuality, for prostitution, and for the cultural changes of the 1920s

After six issues devoted to ethnic pride, Neues Volkfeatured an article on the types of the "Criminal Jew"; [including pickpocket, con man, drug dealer, fence and passport counterfeiter] in later issues, it urged no sympathy for victims of the Nuremberg laws, while arguing that its reader could see Jewish life going on about them, unpersecuted.

'Look, those Jews are walking around free, enjoying themselves, despite all their crimes.'
I asked what their crimes were, not what they were accused of.
 
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I asked what their crimes were, not what they were accused of.
Those were the crimes the Germans were hearing about. The Jews were the enemy of our Volk.
 
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Then a simple "No" answer would have sufficed. Instead, you avoided the question and attempted to change the narrative.
I didn't want to lie and slander anyone. I don't like slander.
Remember, you originally said:

If the sentiments he expressed against illegal immigrants who come here and commit violent crimes against Americans are accurate, then why do you have a problem with it?
You've made a mistake here. That's your question not mine.


This below is what I think you are alluding to.

childeye 2 said:
All I said is Trump was expressing the same sentiments against others as Nazi's expressed against Jews, and I don't like slander.

This was in your response:
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Were the Jews in Nazi Germany committing the crimes that we keep hearing about illegal immigrants committing?

1) It was a crime to be a Jew in the Nazi Germany of the 1930s, but they were NOT committing ANY crimes, so NO.

2) YES, it was a crime to be a Jew because they were poisoning the blood of their country just like the illegal immigrants are said to be doing here.
 
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If the sentiments he expressed against illegal immigrants who come here and commit violent crimes against Americans are accurate, then why do you have a problem with it?
I don't believe the premise that poisoning the blood of our country is a crime. I know it's slander.
 
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'Sie fressen die Katzen und Hunde und vergiften das Blut unseres Landes'.

I read it somewhere.
Donald Trump wiederholt beim TV-Duell die Falschbehauptung, eingewanderte Menschen aus Haiti würden Haustiere töten und verspeisen. Woher stammt das Gerücht?

Das ist Verleumdung
 
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I don't believe the premise that poisoning the blood of our country is a crime. I know it's slander.
Then "slander" is more serious to you than crime is? We're talking about violent crimes here.
Do you believe in the premise of allowing known criminals into our country and then excusing the crimes they commit? Or do you think it's "slander" to label people such as MS13 gang members and those in Tren de Aragua who commit child rape, human trafficking, drug trafficking, and murders as being, well, child rapists, human traffickers, drug traffickers and murderers?
 
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Do you believe in the premise of allowing known criminals into our country and then excusing the crimes they commit?
I believe in positive prejudice until I'm convinced otherwise.
Or do you think it's "slander" to label people such as MS13 gang members and those in Tren de Aragua who commit child rape, human trafficking, drug trafficking, and murders as being, well, child rapists, human traffickers, drug traffickers and murderers?
Slander is when you say something bad about other people without any evidence. If there's evidence presented, it's not slander.
 
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I believe in positive prejudice until I'm convinced otherwise.
Do the court cases where the illegal was found to be guilty convince you?

Slander is when you say something bad about other people without any evidence. If there's evidence presented, it's not slander.
The arrests and convictions are evidence enough, and so are the victims of the crimes that were committed.
 
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Illegal aliens. The ones who are in the country illegally.
I can't claim to have seen any trials, but if a person is found to have committed child rape, human trafficking, drug trafficking, and murder, I'd trust in the verdict of a jury. It makes no difference whether or not they were citizens or legal immigrants or illegal immigrants.
I'm attempting to get you to think about why you refer to something as slander when there is clearly evidence involved.
Really? Because I'm trying to get you to think about why "poisoning the blood of our country" is evidence of slander <=The spirit of the devil in scripture.

It honestly looks to me like you're trying to evade experiencing any realization that Trump speaks the same sentiments as Hitler; by talking as if I'm referring to something else as slander that is not slander.

I got the following in a quick google search:

Hitler's statements were: "I will get rid of the 'communist' 'vermin'," "I will take care of the 'enemy within'," "Jews and migrants are poisoning Aryan blood," and "One people, one realm, one leader."

Statements attributed to Trump were: "I will get rid of the 'communist' 'vermin'," "I will take care of the 'threat from within'," "Migrants are 'poisoning the blood of our country'", and "'One people, one family, one glorious nation under God."
 
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