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Do you Agree with what Hillary says in this Video

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The answer is that while Jesus helped others, his main focus was on healing and helping fellow Jews. He put the needs people of Israel first. I get that liberal Christians want US citizens to pay for taking care of millions of illegal aliens while ignoring fellow citizens in need, but let's not pretend that's how Jesus operated.
I find this line of reasoning rather perplexing but if we must, here are accounts of Jesus Christ of Nazareth interacting with the non- Jewish community. I will also add the importance of these interactions. From revealing who He is, to pointing out a person's great faith to exposing the greater mission of spreading the Gospel to the world. And one more thing, Jesus Christ of Nazareth emphasized that there are " other sheep " that are not of the Jewish fold.

15 as the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.


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Here are key accounts where Jesus interacted with non-Jews (Gentiles) or Samaritans:
* Samaritan Woman at the Well: Had a lengthy theological and personal conversation with her, revealing Himself as the Messiah (John 4:1–42).
* Roman Centurion: Engaged with him (or his representatives) and healed his servant, praising the Centurion's great faith (Matthew 8:5–13; Luke 7:1–10).
* Canaanite (Syrophoenician) Woman: Spoke with her and healed her demon-possessed daughter, commending her persistent faith (Matthew 15:21–28; Mark 7:24–30).
* Gerasene Demoniac(s): Traveled to the Gentile region of the Decapolis, cast out many demons, and told the healed man to share his testimony with his non-Jewish neighbors (Mark 5:1–20; Matthew 8:28–34; Luke 8:26–39).
* One of the Ten Lepers: The only one who returned to thank Jesus was a Samaritan, whom Jesus singled out and praised (Luke 17:11–19).
* Pontius Pilate: Had a significant exchange and dialogue with the Roman governor during His trial (John 18:33–38).
* Greeks/Gentiles Seeking Jesus: Jesus was informed that some Greeks wanted to see him, leading to a profound statement about His upcoming death and glorification (John 12:20–36).
* Multitudes in Decapolis: Taught and performed numerous healings and the feeding of the four thousand in this Gentile region (Matthew 15:29–39; Mark 7:31–8:10).
*The Centurion at the Cross:
Interaction: A Roman Centurion (Gentile) was present at the crucifixion and, upon witnessing the events, famously proclaimed, "Truly this man was the Son of God!" (Mark 15:39; Matthew 27:54; Luke 23:47). This is an interaction based on observation that led to a powerful verbal testimony by a non-Jew.
 
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I find this line of reasoning rather perplexing but if we must, here are accounts of Jesus Christ of Nazareth interacting with the non- Jewish community. I will also add the importance of these interactions. From revealing who He is, to pointing out a person's great faith to exposing the greater mission of spreading the Gospel to the world. And one more thing, Jesus Christ of Nazareth emphasized that there are " other sheep " that are not of the Jewish fold.

15 as the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.


AI Generated

Here are key accounts where Jesus interacted with non-Jews (Gentiles) or Samaritans:
* Samaritan Woman at the Well: Had a lengthy theological and personal conversation with her, revealing Himself as the Messiah (John 4:1–42).
* Roman Centurion: Engaged with him (or his representatives) and healed his servant, praising the Centurion's great faith (Matthew 8:5–13; Luke 7:1–10).
* Canaanite (Syrophoenician) Woman: Spoke with her and healed her demon-possessed daughter, commending her persistent faith (Matthew 15:21–28; Mark 7:24–30).
* Gerasene Demoniac(s): Traveled to the Gentile region of the Decapolis, cast out many demons, and told the healed man to share his testimony with his non-Jewish neighbors (Mark 5:1–20; Matthew 8:28–34; Luke 8:26–39).
* One of the Ten Lepers: The only one who returned to thank Jesus was a Samaritan, whom Jesus singled out and praised (Luke 17:11–19).
* Pontius Pilate: Had a significant exchange and dialogue with the Roman governor during His trial (John 18:33–38).
* Greeks/Gentiles Seeking Jesus: Jesus was informed that some Greeks wanted to see him, leading to a profound statement about His upcoming death and glorification (John 12:20–36).
* Multitudes in Decapolis: Taught and performed numerous healings and the feeding of the four thousand in this Gentile region (Matthew 15:29–39; Mark 7:31–8:10).
*The Centurion at the Cross:
Interaction: A Roman Centurion (Gentile) was present at the crucifixion and, upon witnessing the events, famously proclaimed, "Truly this man was the Son of God!" (Mark 15:39; Matthew 27:54; Luke 23:47). This is an interaction based on observation that led to a powerful verbal testimony by a non-Jew.
Yeah, I was fully familiar with those passages when I made my post. Like I said I get it. There are liberal Christians who want illegal aliens to be given priority over needy US citizens.
 
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Yeah, I was fully familiar with those passages when I made my post. Like I said I get it. There are liberal Christians who want illegal aliens to be given priority over needy US citizens.
Really? Only liberals care about the disenfranchised?
Okay.

Thanks for engaging.
 
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Really? Only liberals care about the disenfranchised?
Okay.

Thanks for engaging.
They're the ones who seem to care more about poor illegal aliens than poor fellow Americans.
 
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They're the ones who seem to care more about poor illegal aliens than poor fellow Americans.
What " seems" is not what is really going on here. It is basic human compassion for the oppressed regardless of one's position.
 
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What " seems" is not what is really going on here. It is basic human compassion for the oppressed regardless of one's position.
Then why is there so much more focus on illegal aliens than poor Americans from the left?
 
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Then why is there so much more focus on illegal aliens than poor Americans from the left?
Your perception, I'm affraid, is perhaps skewed into thinking this way. Afterall, if the rhetoric from the far right claims such a thing is happening ,what's to stop you from believing it?

This is a clear example.

The right wing is pushing a narrative " illegal aliens get trillions of dollars in medical benefits" vs the left who say " millions of Americans will lose their medical coverage". I hope by now, after all this going back and forth between us, you have at the very least fact checked. Who is really pushing this false immigrant agenda? The Republicans.
 
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Your perception, I'm affraid, is perhaps skewed into thinking this way. Afterall, if the rhetoric from the far right claims such a thing is happening ,what's to stop you from believing it?

This is a clear example.

The right wing is pushing a narrative " illegal aliens get trillions of dollars in medical benefits" vs the left who say " millions of Americans will lose their medical coverage". I hope by now, after all this going back and forth between us, you have at the very least fact checked. Who is really pushing this false immigrant agenda? The Republicans.
You misunderstood. I go by what I hear from those on the left. And I hear a whole lot more from them about what illegal aliens need than about what poor Americans need.
 
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You misunderstood. I go by what I hear from those on the left. And I hear a whole lot more from them about what illegal aliens need than about what poor Americans need.
I dont know your friends. I just look at the general landscape.
I think we have exhausted this .

Thanks for engaging!
 
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You misunderstood. I go by what I hear from those on the left. And I hear a whole lot more from them about what illegal aliens need than about what poor Americans need.

There seems to be a disconnect with some on what you're saying.
They cry, help these people who have come here illegally, while not having that same passion and concern for those who are citizens here and suffering...and taking care of them first.
The command to love one’s neighbor as oneself for some means overlooking the thousands, maybe millions of citizens who are in need in America.
It's a selective concern it seems for political gain.
 
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Voter registration changes, 2023–2025

Data from an August 2025 New York Times analysis shows the following registration changes, based on a comparison between the 2020 and 2024 election periods:
  • Democrats: A net loss of 2.1 million registered voters.
  • Republicans: A gain of 2.4 million registered voters.
I think this says a lot. Democrats are losing a ton of voters and people are continuing to leave the democrat party and it's over issues like health care for illegals. They used to be a party for the people, now they're a party for gain and power. And I'm talking about the elected officials, not the standard, average democrat and I think that's why so many are leaving the party in general.

When you have problems in cities of poor camps and their solution is just to bus the poor to various different states instead of housing them, and when you have a drug problem in your cities that the main stream news isn't reporting on and it takes youtubers to point it out with video evidence, and again, their solution is just to bus them to different states for them to deal with, and then slam your fist on a podium and pretend you have a bleeding heart for the illegals in this country, it also comes off disingenuous. I think a lot of people are seeing through the lies and dog and pony show in general and they're losing people even now.

To the people who back up their stance on poor illegals while ignoring the serious problems in America, regardless if you're a democrat or republican (as I've also heard republicans say they want health care for illegals -.-) it is absolutely selective concern. How are we supposed to care for millions of people while our dollar is crumbling, and food and healthcare in general is getting absurd to afford? Where is this extra cash supposed to come from when we can't even help our own people?

In 2024, the number of people experiencing homelessness in the United States reached 771,480, an 18% increase from 2023. What about them? Look at how high that number is, that's insane! We need to fix America before we can start handing out free anything for anyone else.
 
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Voter registration changes, 2023–2025

Data from an August 2025 New York Times analysis shows the following registration changes, based on a comparison between the 2020 and 2024 election periods:
  • Democrats: A net loss of 2.1 million registered voters.
  • Republicans: A gain of 2.4 million registered voters.
I think this says a lot. Democrats are losing a ton of voters and people are continuing to leave the democrat party and it's over issues like health care for illegals. They used to be a party for the people, now they're a party for gain and power. And I'm talking about the elected officials, not the standard, average democrat and I think that's why so many are leaving the party in general.

When you have problems in cities of poor camps and their solution is just to bus the poor to various different states instead of housing them, and when you have a drug problem in your cities that the main stream news isn't reporting on and it takes youtubers to point it out with video evidence, and again, their solution is just to bus them to different states for them to deal with, and then slam your fist on a podium and pretend you have a bleeding heart for the illegals in this country, it also comes off disingenuous. I think a lot of people are seeing through the lies and dog and pony show in general and they're losing people even now.

To the people who back up their stance on poor illegals while ignoring the serious problems in America, regardless if you're a democrat or republican (as I've also heard republicans say they want health care for illegals -.-) it is absolutely selective concern. How are we supposed to care for millions of people while our dollar is crumbling, and food and healthcare in general is getting absurd to afford? Where is this extra cash supposed to come from when we can't even help our own people?

In 2024, the number of people experiencing homelessness in the United States reached 771,480, an 18% increase from 2023. What about them? Look at how high that number is, that's insane! We need to fix America before we can start handing out free anything for anyone else.

During holiday time late last year we found out that a handful of life long die hard democrats had left the party.
Some went Independent and some went republican.

The Left leaning are a desperate party and a weakened one. It's been coming on in the last 15+ yrs.
They don't get what all led to them getting kicked to the curb in Nov 24' and that's a good thing really.
They have selective concern for youth and those in bad situations.
What the Biden administration did in allowing millions in illegally was deliberate and for nefarious reasons.
They don't like America, so what is one way to harm it more than to let millions in while they haven't helped the thousands/millions of citizens here.
ALL are welcome here if they come the legal route btw :unitedstates:
 
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In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29).
Illegal immigration breaks a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country.
Romans 13:1–7 does not give permission to violate a law just because it is perceived as unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a government’s law is if that law violates God’s Word. Immigration laws do not.
When Paul wrote the book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by Emperor Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, or blatantly evil. Still...Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government.
Many countries have immigration laws, some more strict than those of the US and some less strict, but most countries have to deal with illegal immigration. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having open borders or closed borders.
The Bible does give government the authority to make laws and punish lawbreakers Rom 13:1–7. Whether the punishment is imprisonment, deportation, or something more severe, a government has the right to enforce its laws.
It is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a possible “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do, Gal 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15; however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking.
Supporting, enabling, or encouraging illegal immigration is a violation of God’s Word. Those seeking to emigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. Yes, dealing with red tape may cause delays and frustrations, but it is better than acting illegally. A frustrating law is still a law.
The biblical principle related to immigrating illegally is don’t do it; obey the laws of the land. Lawbreaking is not a biblical option, but citizens of the US have many rights under the law, including the right to change the law. So if it's your conviction that an immigration law is unjust, do everything legally within your power to get the law changed: pray, petition, vote, peacefully protest, etc. As Christians, we should be the first to seek to change any law that is truly unjust. At the same time, we are to demonstrate our submission to God by obeying the government He has placed in authority over us. 1 Peter 2:13–16.
That doesn't really address the content of the verse.
 
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