Kimmel is Back

[Servus]

Maybe he's gay or bisexual. That doesn't make him a proponent of liberal ideology.

You'll have to tell that to all the left leaning media reporting that politically he espouses leftist ideology and is a member of the leftist and trans rights community. His politics are the issue regarding what was most likely a political assassination.

 

[childeye 2]

You'll have to tell that to all the left leaning media reporting that politically he's a member of the leftist and trans rights community.

The media is making money by stirring the pot. If he was gay or bisexual then, psychologically, that is obviously going to be very problematic when raised in a politically conservative family. It doesn't mean he has any ties with any political party.

His politics are what's in question regarding what was most likely a political assassination.

Such thinking is insinuative. To want to see someone like Charlie Kirk dead because he says things against trans or gays means the person has a psychological problem.

 

[Servus]

The media is making money by stirring the pot. If he was gay or bisexual, then psychologically, that is going to be very problematic when raised in a politically conservative family. It doesn't mean he has any ties with any political party.

There's most likely a whole lot hardcore liberal democrats that were raised in a conservative family, just like a lot of hardcore atheists were raised in a Christian family.

They shouldn't be. Such thinking can only lead to insinuation. To want to assassinate someone like Charlie Kirk, because he says things against trans or gays means have some psychological problem.

There's no reason whatsoever why an assassins political leanings shouldn't be a prime factor in a political assassination. This is more really really not wanting him to be someone who espouses leftist and trans ideology, but most of the indicators say that's who he is according to news and law enforcement reports. Trying hard to steer away from that indicates being in denial.

 

[childeye 2]

There's most likely a whole lot hardcore liberal democrats that were raised in a conservative family, just like a lot of hardcore atheists were raised in a Christian family.

They aren't all shooting right wingers.

There's no reason whatsoever why an assassins political leanings shouldn't be a prime factor in a political assassination.

There are other reasons why. For example, I think this guy was gay or bisexual and he killed Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk spoke out against gays and trans. That seems self-explanatory to me.

Meanwhile there are people insinuating ---> it's liberal ideology that is to blame. <-- That's a Lie by the way.

This is more really really not wanting him to be someone who espouses leftist and trans ideology,

That's a lie about me that you're entertaining. Consider that it's not God's Spirit of Grace speaking in your heart. I'm already on record saying I believe Tyler is gay or bisexual, so of course his shooting Charlie Kirk is his sick way of espousing his support for trans rights. The ideology of using violence to stop free speech is authoritarianism, not liberalism.

So no, I truly think he psychologically has some problems, and I believe he killed Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk spoke out against gays and trans.

but most of the indicators say that's who he is according to news and law enforcement reports. Trying hard to steer away from that indicates being in denial.

I'm just trying to love others as I would want to be loved. When people insinuate that it's leftist ideology that Killed Charlie Kirk, that's slanderous. Devil=accuser/slanderer. <-- I don't want this spirit living in me.

 

[Servus]

They aren't all shooting right wingers.

There are lots of reasons. For example, I think this guy was gay or bisexual and he killed Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk spoke out against gays and trans. That seems self-evident to me.

Meanwhile there are people insinuating ---> it's liberal ideology that is to blame. <-- That's a Lie by the way.

That's a lie about me that you're entertaining. Consider that it's not God's Spirit of Grace speaking in your heart. I'm already on record saying I believe Tyler is gay or bisexual, so of course his shooting Charlie Kirk is his sick way of espousing his support for trans rights. The ideology of using violence to stop free speech is authoritarianism, not liberalism.

So no, I truly think he psychologically has some problems, and I believe he killed Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk spoke out against gays and trans.

I'm addressing the overall commentary from the left in trying to doge the likely fact that Tyler Robinson is one of them. As opposed to being a right-winger follower of Nick Fuentes as many of them including Kimmel claimed. His political leaning really seemed to matter to the left when that lie was being told. But now that all indications are that he's actually a left-winger, they're trying really hard to avoid that.

I'm just trying to love others as I would want to be loved. When people insinuate that it's left wing ideology that Killed Charlie Kirk, that's slanderous. Devil=accuser/slanderer.

No, it's simply deductive reasoning.

 

[Yarddog]

Even The Washington Post reports it as "leftist ideology".

Tuesday, Robinson’s mother told investigators that he had moved to the left politically in the past year, becoming more “pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

Charlie Kirk and Tyler Robinson Came from the Same Warped Online Worlds

The right-wing activist and his alleged assassin were both creatures of a digital ecosystem that rewards viral engagement at all costs.

www.newyorker.com

Are you saying that there are no gay right wingers?

 

[Yarddog]

Liberalism is for protection of civil liberties such as free speech. Tyler Robinson wasn't exhibiting liberal ideology when he shot Kirk for what he deemed as hate speech.​

civil liberty​

noun​

pluralcivil liberties
: freedom from arbitrary interference in one's speech or actions by other individuals or by the government especially as constitutionally guaranteed (as by the U.S. Bill of Rights)

—usually plural
Examples of civil liberties include freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, the right to privacy, and the right to due process of law.—Ramon Martin
compare civil rights

​

liberalism​

noun​

lib·er·al·ism ˈli-b(ə-)rə-ˌli-zəm

pluralliberalisms
Synonyms of liberalism
1
: inclination to be open to ideas and ways of behaving that are not conventional or traditional
Raised by parents who prided themselves on their liberalism and charity, she was encouraged to romp with her brothers, to succeed in her schooling and to absorb her father's patriotic war stories.—Susan Reverby

compare conservatism sense 1a

2
a
see usage paragraph below : a political philosophy based on belief in progress and stressing the essential goodness of the human race, freedom for the individual from arbitrary authority, and protection and promotion of political and civil liberties

So now you are saying Charlie Kirk was a liberal. He was a big defender of civil liberties.

 

[Servus]

Are you saying that there are no gay right wingers?

No, I'm saying most indications point to Tyler Robinson espousing left-wing ideology.

 

[childeye 2]

So now you are saying Charlie Kirk was a liberal. He was a big defender of civil liberties.

No. I'm saying if Tyler had a liberal ideology, he would support Charlie Kirks right to Free speech even if he disagreed with it.

 

[Servus]

No. I'm saying if Tyler had a liberal ideology, he would support Charlie Kirks right to Free speech even if he disagreed with it.

That doesn't follow considering how many liberals were happy that Kirk had been silenced. Plus the death threats he received because of what he was speaking.

 

[childeye 2]

I'm addressing the overall commentary from the left in trying to doge the likely fact that Tyler Robinson is one of them. As opposed to being a right-winger follower of Nick Fuentes as many of them including Kimmel claimed. His political leaning really seemed to matter to the left when that lie was being told. But now that all indications are that he's actually a left-winger, they're trying really hard to avoid that.

You're misinformed. Left/right are opposing subjective views; you should never trust negative depictions said from one side about the other side.

On September 10, Trump was at a college campus blaming left wing radicals for Charlie's death.
Trump: For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop now."


That's why Kimmel said this --> "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

No, it's simply deductive reasoning.

No, it's totally unreasonable to slander people like Trump did. Just remember this guy talked people into attacking the Capitol. There are no ties showing left-wing rhetoric as influencing Tyler Robinson's desire to kill Charlie Kirk. I think it's clear he is probably gay or bisexual and he killed Kirk because Kirk spoke out against gay and trans.

 

[childeye 2]

That doesn't follow considering how many liberals were happy that Kirk had been silenced. Plus the death threats he received because of what he was speaking.

Anybody who is happy Kirk was silenced, or threatened him, were not expressing a liberal ideology.

 

[Servus]

Anybody who is happy Kirk was silenced or threatened him weren't expressing liberalism.

Perhaps, but most likely they call themselves liberals.

 

[childeye 2]

Perhaps, but most likely they call themselves liberals.

The devil is called the father of lies who deceives the world.

See this dichotomy --> Left/right <--The devil speaks to the carnal mind and works both ends against the middle. The spiritual mind works both ends towards the middle.

 

[Servus]

You're misinformed.

On September 10, Trump was at a college campus blaming left wing radicals for Charlie's death.
Trump: For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop now."

That's correct.

That's why Kimmel said this --> "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

That was incorrect.

No, it's totally unreasonable to slander people like Trump did. There are no ties showing left-wing rhetoric as influencing Tyler Robinson's desire to kill Charlie Kirk. I think it's clear he is probably gay or bisexual and he killed Kirk because Kirk spoke out against gay and trans.

The fact is that Charlie Kirk and those who express similar views have been called fascist nazis by the left on a constant basis. Fascist, racist, nazi, white supremacist, homophobe, transphobe, Islamophobe, xenophobe etc etc. Day in day out.

All the reports from family, friends and investigators is that Robinson espoused left-wing views and ideology. No one involved has said anything regarding his sexual orientation. If he believed Lance Twiggs was really a woman, that would actually make the relationship heterosexual by trans ideology standards.

 

[Servus]

The devil is called the father of lies who deceives the world.

See this dichotomy --> Left/right <--The devil speaks to the carnal mind and works both ends against the middle. The spiritual mind works both ends towards the middle.

The devil is behind radical left-wing ideology.

 

[childeye 2]

That's correct.

That was incorrect.

I'm just posting what they actually said. Trump is a deceived person. He blamed left wing radicals for Biden winning the election without any evidence. He slanders people all the time. --> "They're poisoning the blood of our country", --> "they're eating the cats and the dogs"

The fact is that Charlie Kirk and those who express similar views have been called fascist nazis by the left on a constant basis. Fascist, racist, nazi, white supremacist, homophobe, transphobe, Islamophobe, xenophobe etc etc. Day in day out.

Yes, I know. A lot of moderates felt that way about Charlie Kirk. That doesn't mean far-left radicals talked Tyler into killing Kirk. I think Tyler was having a relationship with a trans and coming from a conservative family it was having a psychological effect on him, and he ended up taking out his frustration on Charlie Kirk.

All the reports from family, friends and investigators is that Robinson espoused left-wing views and ideology. No one involved has said anything regarding his sexual orientation.

I haven't seen any evidence that Robinson was involved much in politics. Like I said, if he was gay or bisexual and having a relationship with a trans, then he obviously would not support any conservative views that speak out against trans rights. Some might say he was left leaning because he was in a relationship with a trans, but that doesn't disprove that it was actually because Kirk spoke against trans rights that Tyler felt compelled to murder him.

If he believed Lance Twiggs was really a woman, that would actually make the relationship heterosexual by trans ideology standards.

Hmmm. Well, I'm straight and I don't see myself as capable of dating a trans, but I also don't want to judge anyone.

 

[childeye 2]

The devil is behind radical left-wing ideology.

In a left/right dichotomy, the objective view is at the center. The devil is playing both ends against the middle (causing division). Devil=accuser/slanderer

 

[Servus]

In a left/right dichotomy, the objective view is at the center. The devil is playing both ends against the middle (causing division). Devil=accuser/slanderer

Devil = deceiver and tempter ie t's okay to kill the baby in your womb, you'll be happier if you do, you're all that matters. It's okay to have sex outside of marriage. It's okay to have sex with a person of the same sex. Same sex marriage is okay. It's okay for a man to be a woman. It's okay to take narcotics. It's okay to enter a country illegally etc.

 

[Servus]

I'm just posting what they actually said. Trump is a deceived person. He blamed left wing radicals for Biden winning the election without any evidence. He slanders people all the time. --> "They're poisoning the blood of our country", --> "they're eating the cats and the dogs"

Yes, I know. A lot of moderates felt that way about Charlie Kirk. That doesn't mean far-left radicals talked Tyler into killing Kirk. I think Tyler was having a relationship with a trans and coming from a conservative family it was having a psychological effect on him, and he ended up taking out his frustration on Charlie Kirk.

I haven't seen any evidence that Robinson was involved much in politics. Like I said, if he was gay or bisexual and having a relationship with a trans, then he obviously would not support any conservative views that speak out against trans rights. Some might say he was left leaning because he was in a relationship with a trans, but that doesn't disprove that it was actually because Kirk spoke against trans rights that Tyler felt compelled to murder him.

Hmmm. Well, I'm straight and I don't see myself as capable of dating a trans, but I also don't want to judge anyone.

Well the evidence Robinson espoused left-wing ideology is in everything he said to those closest to him, but let's keep ignoring that in favor of pet notions.

You don't espouse trans ideology, but Robinson obviously did, and therefore most likely regarded Twiggs as a woman.