Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

[durangodawood]

Probably explains why Trump catches so much flak. Ivanka and Tiffany can't make up for that kind of deficit.

They are a sour looking bunch for sure.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Charlie Kirk made a specific statement about their brain processing power, that it wasn't enough for them to be taken somewhat seriously. Even if they were beneficiaries of affirmative action, why wouldn't they have the brain processing power to be taken somewhat seriously? Are you saying that no beneficiary of affirmative action ever have had the brain processing power to be taken somewhat seriously, by necessity?

@Aldebaran did you plan on coming back to this? Otherwise I have another offensive one, , I am including a video for the context.

"Finland is very russian" - Charlie Kirk

This is simply speaking not true and offensive. At the beginning of the video when Kirk realises that he is speaking with a german he starts singing "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles", this is not part of the german national anthem anymore (and singing that part is ill-advised). Let's put som spin on as well if you'd like.

 

[Larniavc]

I disagree. He was pretty much always civil, polite and respectful of those who disagreed with him. But I guess you're allowed to be offended if you want. Unlike in the U.K., over here no one is legally protected from being offended, as we can tell from the words and actions of much of the Left.

Over here we don’t have to put up with awful people using ‘free speech’ as an excuse for being g awful people.

How long till shooting at someone is protected by freedom of expression?

 

[Larniavc]

I find it absurd that a murderer gets to pick how they are executed. I think there should be a wheel they spin to see which method is used.

I’d prefer a public vote then a lottery for who gets to flick the switch or shout ‘ready aim fire’.

 

[High Fidelity]

I don't condone it usually, but in this case yes, send a message.

No cheering, no celebrating it, just get it done and move forward.

 

[Aldebaran]

@Aldebaran did you plan on coming back to this? Otherwise I have another offensive one, , I am including a video for the context.

"Finland is very russian" - Charlie Kirk

This is simply speaking not true and offensive. At the beginning of the video when Kirk realises that he is speaking with a german he starts singing "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles", this is not part of the german national anthem anymore (and singing that part is ill-advised). Let's put som spin on as well if you'd like.

A ten and a half minute video, and that's what you came up with to nitpick at?
It's pretty obvious when people are desperately looking to find fault with someone.

 

[Aldebaran]

Over here we don’t have to put up with awful people using ‘free speech’ as an excuse for being g awful people.

How long till shooting at someone is protected by freedom of expression?

Seems that the Luigi Mangioni assassination of a CEO is recognized that way by many here. I'd say that may be the answer to how long it will be. That recognition may very well have been what triggered Tyler Robinson to follow suit. Celebrating someone who assassinates people encourages others to do the same so they may be celebrated as well.
Society can change all that by not celebrating murder. Let's see if society really wants to change or not.

 

[Chesterton]

Over here we don’t have to put up with awful people using ‘free speech’ as an excuse for being g awful people.

Over here we're treated like we're adults.

 

[rebornfree]

Combative is the nature of opposing beliefs. It happens here on this site all the time between believers and nonbelievers, and between holders of differing beliefs. Naturally, it's also going to happen when a Christian is on a college campus fielding questions from those who want to see how their own views compare with Charlie Kirk's and others who believe the way he did.

I think that discussions can be much calmer and more gracious than that.

Also who's views is he debating - his own, political ones or Biblical ones. Their seems to be a worrying mix of politics snd Christianity here.

 

[Aldebaran]

I think that discussions can be much calmer and more gracious than that.

Also who's views is he debating - his own, political ones or Biblical ones. Their seems to be a worrying mix of politics snd Christianity here.

It depends upon the topic he's discussing with someone at the time. Any number of things could be discussed with him, whether it was political views, faith, gun control, immigration, etc.

 

[rjs330]

@Aldebaran did you plan on coming back to this? Otherwise I have another offensive one, , I am including a video for the context.

"Finland is very russian" - Charlie Kirk

This is simply speaking not true and offensive. At the beginning of the video when Kirk realises that he is speaking with a german he starts singing "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles", this is not part of the german national anthem anymore (and singing that part is ill-advised). Let's put som spin on as well if you'd like.

That was a very respectful and honest conversation where both of them agreed.on numerous points. I'm not sure what your beef here is. You seem to be upset over the Finland comment, but its not that b8g of deal.and you dont even know Kirk's argument and why he says that. He sure didn't explain it. And its certainly not a comment that is worth citing as a reason for killing him.

 

[rebornfree]

Over here we're treated like we're adults.

But not everyone is an adult. I think that the shooter was probably only just out of adolescence, and others on college campuses much the same.

 

[rebornfree]

It depends upon the topic he's discussing with someone at the time. Any number of things could be discussed with him, whether it was political views, faith, gun control, immigration, etc.

Yes, but I hope it was clear that his views on politics, guns, etc. were his own views and not necessarily Biblical ones.

 

[Chesterton]

But not everyone is an adult. I think that the shooter was probably only just out of adolescence, and others on college campuses much the same.

My point was that "stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" was something my generation was taught as children, and we were expected to carry that idea throughout adulthood.

 

[rebornfree]

My point was that "stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" was something my generation was taught as children, and we were expected to carry that idea throughout adulthood.

I remember it too. (I'm in my seventies). However, I've come to profoundly disagree with it.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

That was a very respectful and honest conversation where both of them agreed.on numerous points. I'm not sure what your beef here is. You seem to be upset over the Finland comment, but its not that b8g of deal.and you dont even know Kirk's argument and why he says that. He sure didn't explain it. And its certainly not a comment that is worth citing as a reason for killing him.

Finland is not very russian, in any sense (culturally, no, politically, no, linguistically no, economically no). So in what sense is Finland very russian? Of course it is not a reason to kill him, I didn't say or imply that. However, it shows that Kirk says offensive things.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

A ten and a half minute video, and that's what you came up with to nitpick at?
It's pretty obvious when people are desperately looking to find fault with someone.

Ok, We are all free to chose what we want to respond to. How about the question about affirmative action beneficiaries then?

 

[MotoToTheMax]

I remember it too. (I'm in my seventies). However, I've come to profoundly disagree with it.

It's also just not a true statement, and hilariously so given the forums were on. Look at at all the rules of what we can't say or ideas we can't defend because it would hurt the feelings of those who think otherwise here.

 

[rebornfree]

Finland is not very russian, in any sense (culturally, no, politically, no, linguistically no, economically no). So in what sense is Finland very russian? Of course it is not a reason to kill him, I didn't say or imply that. However, it shows that Kirk says offensive things.

It seems that Kirk liked to say things to be controversial (maybe it's a USA thing) but I never thought of Finland as being like Russia. I feel sorry for Finland in view of their long border with Russia, with Putin in the Kremlin.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

It seems that Kirk liked to say things to be controversial (maybe it's a USA thing) but I never thought of Finland as being like Russia. I feel sorry for Finland in view of their long border with Russia, with Putin in the Kremlin.

Russia have been waging hybrid warfare against all the countries around the Baltic sea, for the duration of the war in Ukraine. Actively targetting navigation systems daily, and destroying underwater cables (both power and communications) until surveillance was ramped up. So to say that the the one attacked is akin to the attacker is offensive to many people.