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[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Hard questions to answer aren't they?

You would know or assume to know lol

 

[Larniavc]

I won't

Of course you won’t. This is all in your imagination.

 

[Larniavc]

LOL so you assumed! Typical

It does tend to save time.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Of course you won’t. This is all in your imagination.

I won't need to because you will find out in a few years. Is it my imagination that woman are being raped all over the UK and Europe by these "immigrants"?

 

[Pommer]

What purpose does it serve?

It serves the purpose of our friend telling (the rest of) us how scared they are of Islam, as if it were some super-religion that will run roughshod over liberal democracies until there is one-world-religion/government.

The sky, it doth falleth.

 

[Chesterton]

You know the difference between mainstream Islam and Islamism and admit that only Islamists define the words you listed as they do, yet you choose to promote the Islamic extremist interpretations of Islam rather than that of mainstream Islam on a public forum. Why would you tell someone that they don't understand things within the context of Islam and then respond to them with anti-Islamic propaganda and an extremist narrative of the religion? What purpose does it serve?

Nobody cares about the normal, peaceful Muslims. They don't matter, they're mostly irrelevant. It's the Islamists who get things done.

Are you familiar with the street re-naming in Dearborn this month? Long story short, the city is now over 50% Muslim, and has a Muslim mayor. They've re-named streets after Muslims before, but this one was was intentionally in-your-face symbolic. Warren Ave. was named after an American Founding Father and Revolutionary War hero. They re-named it after Osama Siblani, a man who calls for death to Israel, and advocates violence against Jews and other non-Muslims, and praises Hamas and Hezbollah as heroes. When a certain citizen spoke against the re-naming at a city council meeting, the mayor told him "you are not welcome here". An interloper telling a U.S. citizen he doesn't belong in his own city.

This is the future if we don't wake up.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It serves the purpose of our friend telling (the rest of) us how scared they are of Islam, as if it were some super-religion that will run roughshod over liberal democracies until there is one-world-religion/government.

The sky, it doth falleth.

Dar al-Islam, it doth cometh (as long as progressive liberal politics and governments allow it to)...Jihad, Sharia and Caliphate...

 

[Pommer]

Dar al-Islam, it doth cometh (as long as progressive liberal politics and governments allow it to)...Jihad, Sharia and Caliphate...

Oh my!

 

[JosephZ]

Nobody cares about the normal, peaceful Muslims.

I do.

They don't matter, they're mostly irrelevant. It's the Islamists who get things done.

Why do you prefer to legitimize the extremist narrative of Islam and the minority that promotes it when the vast majority of the world's 2 billion Muslims reject Islamic extremists and the extremist narrative?

Are you familiar with the street re-naming in Dearborn this month?

Not until now.

Long story short, the city is now over 50% Muslim, and has a Muslim mayor.

I knew the city was majority Arab, but I'm not so sure it would be over 50% Muslim just yet. Not all Arabs are Muslim.

They've re-named streets after Muslims before, but this one was was intentionally in-your-face symbolic. Warren Ave. was named after an American Founding Father and Revolutionary War hero.

Warren Avenue hasn't been renamed. It was honorary signs erected at a couple of street corners; that’s it. It was also Wayne County, and not Dearborn, that approved the signs. Wayne County has less than a 20% Muslim population.

Wayne County street signs in Dearborn honor Arab American leader Osama Siblani

Historical experts say it's the first street sign in Dearborn honoring an Arab American leader.

Wayne County, which has jurisdiction over Warren Avenue, approved the honorary designation, putting up two brown street signs with Siblani's name in white lettering: one on the northwest corner of Warren Avenue and Chase and another about half a mile east on the northeast corner of Warren and Schaefer Road that sits above a green "Warren" street sign.

Warren Avenue is believed to be the first street in Dearborn to have a sign in honor of an Arab American advocate, officials with Wayne County and experts on Dearborn's history told the Free Press. The official name of the street will still be "Warren Avenue" in addresses, but the brown signs are a symbolic reminder of the city's Arab American presence.

They re-named it after Osama Siblani, a man who calls for death to Israel, and advocates violence against Jews and other non-Muslims, and praises Hamas and Hezbollah as heroes.

I don't know anything about Osama Siblani, but if what you say is true, then the city should reconsider giving him the honary designation.

When a certain citizen spoke against the re-naming at a city council meeting, the mayor told him "you are not welcome here".

The mayor was certainly wrong to do that.

An interloper telling a U.S. citizen he doesn't belong in his own city.

Aren't you doing exactly the same by calling the mayor of Dearborn an "interloper" when he is a US citizen born and raised in Dearborn?

 

[Chesterton]

Why do you prefer to legitimize the extremist narrative of Islam and the minority that promotes it when the vast majority of the world's 2 billion Muslims reject Islamic extremists and the extremist narrative?

Say I'm in a room with 10 other people. One of those ten states proudly that he wants to subjugate or kill me. I'm going to be concerned with him, not the others.

I knew the city was majority Arab, but I'm not so sure it would be over 50% Muslim just yet. Not all Arabs are Muslim.

I'm a member of the Antiochian church. I know not all Arabs are Muslim. Several sources I checked say Dearborn's population is about 54% Muslim.

Warren Avenue hasn't been renamed. It was honorary signs erected at a couple of street corners; that’s it. It was also Wayne County, and not Dearborn, that approved the signs. Wayne County has less than a 20% Muslim population.

Wayne County street signs in Dearborn honor Arab American leader Osama Siblani

Historical experts say it's the first street sign in Dearborn honoring an Arab American leader.

Wayne County, which has jurisdiction over Warren Avenue, approved the honorary designation, putting up two brown street signs with Siblani's name in white lettering: one on the northwest corner of Warren Avenue and Chase and another about half a mile east on the northeast corner of Warren and Schaefer Road that sits above a green "Warren" street sign.

Warren Avenue is believed to be the first street in Dearborn to have a sign in honor of an Arab American advocate, officials with Wayne County and experts on Dearborn's history told the Free Press. The official name of the street will still be "Warren Avenue" in addresses, but the brown signs are a symbolic reminder of the city's Arab American presence.

Honorary signs tend to become the official name. It happened in my city when a street with a politically neutral name was honorarily named Cesar E. Chavez Blvd. Years passed, street signs were replaced, now it's the official name.

I don't know anything about Osama Siblani, but if what you say is true, then the city should reconsider giving him the honary designation.

Thank you.

The mayor was certainly wrong to do that.

Thank you.

Aren't you doing exactly the same by calling the mayor of Dearborn an "interloper" when he is a US citizen born and raised in Dearborn?

No, because he brags about his Arab heritage. There is no Arab heritage in America. If the person he was dressing down bragged of his European heritage, he'd be called a racist, even though America obviously does have a substantial European heritage.

 

[Chesterton]

The official name of the street will still be "Warren Avenue" in addresses, but the brown signs are a symbolic reminder of the city's Arab American presence.

I forgot. I thought this was kind of humorous. Who needs to be reminded, and why do they need to be reminded of the city's Arab presence? If the Arab population is 1% or 99%, who needs to be reminded? Sounds like something Hitler would do.

 

[JosephZ]

Say I'm in a room with 10 other people. One of those ten states proudly that he wants to subjugate or kill me. I'm going to be concerned with him, not the others.

Of course you would be concerned with that one extremist individual, but that doesn't mean that his understanding of the religion he's using to justify his actions is correct, especially if the nine other people in the room with you follow the same religion and are equally as concerned about that one individual as you are.

I'm a member of the Antiochian church. I know not all Arabs are Muslim. Several sources I checked say Dearborn's population is about 54% Muslim.

Everything I'm finding says that the total Arab population is around 54%.

Census: Arab Americans now a majority in Dearborn as Middle Eastern Michiganders top 300K

Arab Americans, for the first time, now make up a majority of the residents of Dearborn, and Michigan's total Middle Eastern population has surpassed 300,000 residents, according to new census data.

About 54.5% of the 109,976 residents of Dearborn are of Middle Eastern or North African (MENA) ancestry, most of them Arab, according to 2020 census data. That's a seven-point increase from 2019 census data that showed 47% of Dearborn has Arab ancestry.

Honorary signs tend to become the official name. It happened in my city when a street with a politically neutral name was honorarily named Cesar E. Chavez Blvd. Years passed, street signs were replaced, now it's the official name.

Even if that were to occur in this case, it's only a small portion of Warren Avenue that would be affected. I highlighted in red the points between the two honorary signs.

Thank you.

You're welcome. I would hope everyone would agree that honoring someone who calls for death to Israel, advocates violence against Jews and other non-Muslims, and praises terrorists is wrong.

No, because he brags about his Arab heritage. There is no Arab heritage in America. If the person he was dressing down bragged of his European heritage, he'd be called a racist, even though America obviously does have a substantial European heritage.

While his response to the man was inappropriate, I don't remember him bragging about his Arab heritage in the video, but to say there's no Arab heritage in America would be incorrect. Arabs have been a part of America since the late 19th century. To say there's no Arab heritage would be the same as saying there's no Asian heritage, Italian heritage, German heritage, etc. in America.

 

[Lukaris]

It seems to me like Ted Barham was being intimidated at the city hall meeting.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2025/09/20/dearborn-mayor-abdullah-hammoud-berating-resident-nagi-almudhegi-ted-barham/86234246007/#

My Arabic Christian ancestors left the Middle East for the US in the late 19th century. There always seem to be bad things happening to Christians there like the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians etc. In the 1860s there massacres in Lebanon & Damascus.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2025/09/20/dearborn-mayor-abdullah-hammoud-berating-resident-nagi-almudhegi-ted-barham/86234246007/#

And it continues to this day.

Persecution of Christians by the Islamic State - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

100 Syrian Americans in our parish served in WW 2:


During the Second World War more that 100 of the youth of St. Mary’s saw service in the war zones. Sadly, several were to lose their lives in the service of their country:

History | St. Mary Orthodox Church | Wilkes-Barre, PA

History of St. Mary Orthodox Church in Wilkes-Barre, PA

www.stmaryorthodox.com

My American colonist ancestors were part of a nation that started to form in bitter & tragic circumstances.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Philip's_War


For better or worse, that was America as my ancestors knew it. What did Barham do to be intimidated in his country by his fellow countrymen?

 

[Chesterton]

Of course you would be concerned with that one extremist individual, but that doesn't mean that his understanding of the religion he's using to justify his actions is correct, especially if the nine other people in the room with you follow the same religion and are equally as concerned about that one individual as you are.

It doesn't matter whether his understanding is correct.

While his response to the man was inappropriate, I don't remember him bragging about his Arab heritage in the video, but to say there's no Arab heritage in America would be incorrect.

I don't believe he said it in the video, but he's said it elsewhere.

Arabs have been a part of America since the late 19th century.

My people have been part of America since before it was America, but I've never said I was proud of it. Whenever someone does that it's just cringey, IMO.

To say there's no Arab heritage would be the same as saying there's no Asian heritage, Italian heritage, German heritage, etc. in America.

Um, no. I went to a couple of websites that discuss Arab American Heritage Month. Not much to see, and I'll leave it at that.