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What Does the Lord Jesus Mean by “Doing the Will of the Heavenly Father “?

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I'll let you speak for you, lol, and let Christ speak for me.

I know who I am. Not because of me, but because of Him and His faithfulness. I keep my faith where it belongs, in Christ.

God will tell us all who knows Him and who doesn't pretty soon.
You should be thankful that the internal temptations are not you, but of our adversary, the tempter. One sided looks at just the person is never legit, scripturally. Most are falsely led to justify the entirety of themselves in Christ however that does not account for "all" of Jesus' Words to mankind or the person.

I'm thankful God is against the evil present, the tempter or his own within everyone, particularly myself, even though it is often unpleasant as in chastisements and tribulations
 
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The Lord Jesus said, “Not every one that said to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of My Father which is in heaven “ (Matthew 7:21). From this, it is evident that entering the kingdom of heaven is not a simple matter; it’s not merely a matter of believing in the Lord. To enter the kingdom of heaven, we must strive to become those who do the will of the Heavenly Father. But what does it mean to do God’s will?

The Lord Jesus said, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself “ (Matthew 22:37–39)
God says, “What this means is that amidst the judgment, chastisement, and trials of God, those who truly abide by God’s will are able to praise God from deep within their hearts, and to utterly obey God and forsake themselves, thus loving God with a heart that is sincere, undivided, and pure; such is a perfect person, and it is precisely the work that God intends to do, and the work that He shall accomplish.”
From this, it is clear that truly doing God’s will involves putting His words into practice and obeying His commandments. Regardless of the circumstances God arranges, even in the face of hardships and trials, one can willingly submit to God’s orchestration and arrangement to live out God’s will. Just like Peter, who worked diligently to be considerate of God’s heart; no matter what difficulties or trials he faced, he willingly obeyed God’s arrangement; even facing death, he was willing to be crucified upside down to fulfill God’s will. Peter was a sincere lover of the Lord, and he was approved by God, and set an example for us.
Now, friends, if you have more insights, please leave a message below and let’s discuss it together.
We do the will of God by surrendering to his Holy Spirit so that that Spirit is free to change us spiritually into God's image. The Spirit teaches us how to love and as love grows, we lose the desire to harm anyone.

Our faith lies fully in the creator of all things and not in ourselves.
 
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You should be thankful that the internal temptations are not you, but of our adversary, the tempter. One sided looks at just the person is never legit, scripturally. Most are falsely led to justify the entirety of themselves in Christ however that does not account for "all" of Jesus' Words to mankind or the person.
Agreed, Romans 7, it is no longer me but the sin in me, but also 1 John, walk in the light as He is in the light. Justification without heart change is futile.

I'm thankful God is against the evil present, the tempter or his own within everyone, particularly myself, even though it is often unpleasant as in chastisements and tribulations
Well, I won't concede that the tempter is in me per se. I will that I have flesh to battle against, and the tempter is able to attack and implant thoughts which is why we must bring every thought captive to Christ into obedience to Him. 2 Corinthians 10:5

With that said, we get what we focus on and Scripture tells us to focus on the good, not the evil. That's what got Eve in trouble in the first place, the knowledge of evil, not the knowledge of good, they already had that. The only good the knowledge of evil can possibly do, is lead to one completely avoiding it entirely. Entertaining thoughts of evil allows them to grow inside one's heart. Looking at fruit, talking about fruit, considering fruit, liking fruit, lusting after fruit, justifying fruit... Chomppp. Welcome to the fall of mankind, and here we are.

Have to focus on Christ and His goodness, not evil, or one is always tempted. Have to get rid of that stuff completely. Denied. Disallowed. Not welcome in my mind.

Philippians 4:8
Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is venerable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if any excellence and if any praise--think on these things.

1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from every form of evil.


Focusing on temptations is focusing on evil and allowing it in one's mind. Focusing on God is feeding on the Bread of Life and keeps one so busy with drinking the Water of Life given freely that they don't have time to be tempted.

This is not just book knowledge either. lol Took me 20 years to get that. I'm a stubborn child.
 
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Agreed, Romans 7, it is no longer me but the sin in me, but also 1 John, walk in the light as He is in the light. Justification without heart change is futile.
Just as justification of sin is futile.

Perhaps a somewhat accurate yet unseen picture is light in the midst of darkness, which is scripture.
Well, I won't concede that the tempter is in me per se.
Then you are merely your own devil and there is no other impetus but "evil you."
I will that I have flesh to battle against, and the tempter is able to attack and implant thoughts
Well, you see, that is exactly the point. We can't be attacked on the inside without the attacker being inside to do same.

Our minds are assuredly subject to that presence of evil, that is "no longer I." It has a will of its own.

Any believer who speaks honestly knows we get blindsided out of seemingly nowhere with evil/lawless thoughts.

Those who claim they do not are simply made liars and hypocrites by that evil in claiming it doesn't happen. And those who excuse it are merely being used as pawns to cover up and make excuses and various forms of justifications for the devil.
which is why we must bring every thought captive to Christ into obedience to Him. 2 Corinthians 10:5
No doubt. Still doesn't stop the activity though. Most of the time it will increase. See Paul's personal statements in Romans 7:7-13, Romans 7:19, 2 Cor. 7:12, Gal. 4:14 and 1 Tim. 1:15, among many others similar.

Paul concluded that he was, present tense use "I am" the chief of sinners. Were we to judge only by the external acts that would be a ridiculous exaggeration, but if we bring the TEMPTER into the picture, the answer is brutally honest.

Self deprecating? Yes. But honest.
With that said, we get what we focus on
Sorry. New age nonsense. We don't turn ourselves into Jesus by "acting our way" into it.

None of us are any different than Paul. Whatever we do, we do so with evil present within us. Romans 7:21, Mark 7:21-23

Hard to swallow? Yes. But again, why be made liars by the fact of it, and bad actors to boot, aka hypocrites.

Lying hypocrisy is actually one of the worst states of demonic influences and Jesus berated the temple leaders precisely because they were under the influences of DEVILS. John 8:44. And the funny part is this: They had NO CLUE that was the case. Funny and sad I should say.
and Scripture tells us to focus on the good, not the evil.
Scripture says no such thing.

We are quite factually engaged in our own little battles with darkness. Everyone is. No exceptions.

People who claim this is not the case are merely wrapped up in little religious fantasies imposed on them by our enemies.
That's what got Eve in trouble in the first place, the knowledge of evil,
The fall of mankind was preordained from the start.

Paul elaborates on this quite succinctly in 1 Cor. 15:42-46 showing we are all planted in weakness, corruption and dishonor in a natural body that is assuredly going to die because of sin. And after that, we are "made" spirits by God.
not the knowledge of good, they already had that. The only good the knowledge of evil can possibly do, is lead to one completely avoiding it entirely.
Satan entered the hearts of both Adam and Eve immediately after God's Words were spoken to them:

Mark 4:15 was their reality and it was, from that point forward, never a question of only Adam or only Eve, but both of them under the thumb of the TEMPTER in their own flesh/minds. This demonic deception in them both is available to see long before the words of the serpent even enter the picture.

Entertaining thoughts of evil allows them to grow inside one's heart. Looking at fruit, talking about fruit, considering fruit, liking fruit, lusting after fruit, justifying fruit... Chomppp. Welcome to the fall of mankind, and here we are.
IF your claim is "don't pay any attention" and evil will go away, I would only conclude you are a liberal. (sorry, couldn't resist)

No, evil does its things, regardless of whether we pay attention to it or not. Particularly if we think the activity goes away because we're not watching on the wall.
Have to focus on Christ and His goodness, not evil, or one is always tempted. Have to get rid of that stuff completely. Denied. Disallowed. Not welcome in my mind.
None of that avails evil one little bit. Your position merely seeks to drag evil into the picture without being seen. Nothing more. And that simply will never happen in this present life.

Evil is a reality that we all bear our entire lives in a myriad of ways, both seen and unseen.
Philippians 4:8
Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is venerable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if any excellence and if any praise--think on these things.
I like to think that honesty is a virtuous thing as well as the hope of eradication of evil, sin and the devil and his messengers. After all, they are the problem and that eventuality IS the promise of God in Christ.

Will the Gospel offend? Absolutely it will. No one really wants to look that closely. And few would show up in the pews were they actually told THE TRUTH by THE TRUTH. Most would run out the door holding their hands over their ears, lalalala.
1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from every form of evil.
That is only possible when we realize we are not it.

Paul says "sin not" yet simultaneously claims to be the "I am" chief of sinners.

We really should look at the contrasts here and realize there are two agencies involved. Mankind and devils.

Sins for example are not counted against people, 2 Cor. 5:19, but they are counted against the devils, 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15 etc.
Focusing on temptations is focusing on evil
Were that the case then Jesus should not have focused on it either but He did, fortunately: Mark 7:21-23 and numerous statements such as:

Matthew 7:11
If ye then, being evil,
Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil,
Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil,

And the coup de grace:
John 7:7
The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Are we not to bear the same testimony as our Lord??? Even if the axe falls upon our own flesh?

Yes indeed. To find out how both "all men" and "the world" hates us, were merely need to pinpoint the DEVILS in all mankind, including the tempter in our own minds and guess what happens?

The whirlwind of God comes rushing in, for real.

and allowing it in one's mind. Focusing on God is feeding on the Bread of Life and keeps one so busy with drinking the Water of Life given freely that they don't have time to be tempted.

This is not just book knowledge either. lol Took me 20 years to get that. I'm a stubborn child.
Here's a clue for you. The devil could care less if you can't speak of incursions of the tempter in your own mind because such is the mind of blinded slaves. Nothing personal. I think God will save you regardless. He did come to release the captives after all.

And, we might also realize, that when we "get real" with God and stop being liars, God in Christ comes to FIGHT within us, for REAL. And for that I will assuredly celebrate and be thankful. A spike of "division" will be driven home in us.
 
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Just as justification of sin is futile.

Perhaps a somewhat accurate yet unseen picture is light in the midst of darkness, which is scripture.

Then you are merely your own devil and there is no other impetus but "evil you."

Well, you see, that is exactly the point. We can't be attacked on the inside without the attacker being inside to do same.

Our minds are assuredly subject to that presence of evil, that is "no longer I." It has a will of its own.

Any believer who speaks honestly knows we get blindsided out of seemingly nowhere with evil/lawless thoughts.

Those who claim they do not are simply made liars and hypocrites by that evil in claiming it doesn't happen. And those who excuse it are merely being used as pawns to cover up and make excuses and various forms of justifications for the devil.

No doubt. Still doesn't stop the activity though. Most of the time it will increase. See Paul's personal statements in Romans 7:7-13, Romans 7:19, 2 Cor. 7:12, Gal. 4:14 and 1 Tim. 1:15, among many others similar.

Paul concluded that he was, present tense use "I am" the chief of sinners. Were we to judge only by the external acts that would be a ridiculous exaggeration, but if we bring the TEMPTER into the picture, the answer is brutally honest.

Self deprecating? Yes. But honest.

Sorry. New age nonsense. We don't turn ourselves into Jesus by "acting our way" into it.

None of us are any different than Paul. Whatever we do, we do so with evil present within us. Romans 7:21, Mark 7:21-23

Hard to swallow? Yes. But again, why be made liars by the fact of it, and bad actors to boot, aka hypocrites.

Lying hypocrisy is actually one of the worst states of demonic influences and Jesus berated the temple leaders precisely because they were under the influences of DEVILS. John 8:44. And the funny part is this: They had NO CLUE that was the case. Funny and sad I should say.

Scripture says no such thing.

We are quite factually engaged in our own little battles with darkness. Everyone is. No exceptions.

People who claim this is not the case are merely wrapped up in little religious fantasies imposed on them by our enemies.

The fall of mankind was preordained from the start.

Paul elaborates on this quite succinctly in 1 Cor. 15:42-46 showing we are all planted in weakness, corruption and dishonor in a natural body that is assuredly going to die because of sin. And after that, we are "made" spirits by God.

Satan entered the hearts of both Adam and Eve immediately after God's Words were spoken to them:

Mark 4:15 was their reality and it was, from that point forward, never a question of only Adam or only Eve, but both of them under the thumb of the TEMPTER in their own flesh/minds. This demonic deception in them both is available to see long before the words of the serpent even enter the picture.


IF your claim is "don't pay any attention" and evil will go away, I would only conclude you are a liberal. (sorry, couldn't resist)

No, evil does its things, regardless of whether we pay attention to it or not. Particularly if we think the activity goes away because we're not watching on the wall.

None of that avails evil one little bit. Your position merely seeks to drag evil into the picture without being seen. Nothing more. And that simply will never happen in this present life.

Evil is a reality that we all bear our entire lives in a myriad of ways, both seen and unseen.

I like to think that honesty is a virtuous thing as well as the hope of eradication of evil, sin and the devil and his messengers. After all, they are the problem and that eventuality IS the promise of God in Christ.

Will the Gospel offend? Absolutely it will. No one really wants to look that closely. And few would show up in the pews were they actually told THE TRUTH by THE TRUTH. Most would run out the door holding their hands over their ears, lalalala.

That is only possible when we realize we are not it.

Paul says "sin not" yet simultaneously claims to be the "I am" chief of sinners.

We really should look at the contrasts here and realize there are two agencies involved. Mankind and devils.

Sins for example are not counted against people, 2 Cor. 5:19, but they are counted against the devils, 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15 etc.

Were that the case then Jesus should not have focused on it either but He did, fortunately: Mark 7:21-23 and numerous statements such as:

Matthew 7:11
If ye then, being evil,
Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil,
Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil,

And the coup de grace:
John 7:7
The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Are we not to bear the same testimony as our Lord??? Even if the axe falls upon our own flesh?

Yes indeed. To find out how both "all men" and "the world" hates us, were merely need to pinpoint the DEVILS in all mankind, including the tempter in our own minds and guess what happens?

The whirlwind of God comes rushing in, for real.


Here's a clue for you. The devil could care less if you can't speak of incursions of the tempter in your own mind because such is the mind of blinded slaves. Nothing personal. I think God will save you regardless. He did come to release the captives after all.

And, we might also realize, that when we "get real" with God and stop being liars, God in Christ comes to FIGHT within us, for REAL. And for that I will assuredly celebrate and be thankful. A spike of "division" will be driven home in us.

Proverbs 10:19
In the multitude of words sin is not lacking, But he who restrains his lips is wise.

That is a whole lot to address a very simple point, and cut up badly to boot.

Also seems like a derail of the OP.

Blessings and adieu.
 
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Proverbs 10:19
In the multitude of words sin is not lacking, But he who restrains his lips is wise.

That is a whole lot to address a very simple point, and cut up badly to boot.

Also seems like a derail of the OP.

Blessings and adieu.
I've considered being honest about our condition to be a primary pursuit in the Will of God. Obviously not very popular amongst believers
 
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I've considered being honest about our condition to be a primary pursuit in the Will of God. Obviously not very popular amongst believers
lol Don't break your arm off there patting your back brother. Just kidding. :)

I believe you mean well. I just think it was a bit much for a rebuttal to a simple point, and I'm really busy. It went from one point to twelve plus topics, and I don't have the time to engage discussions that vast right now.

Had zero to do with my opinion on any of it, as I didn't calculate one. The verse was for me also, hence why I said very little.
 
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lol Don't break your arm off there patting your back brother. Just kidding. :)

I believe you mean well. I just think it was a bit much for a rebuttal to a simple point, and I'm really busy. It went from one point to twelve plus topics, and I don't have the time to engage discussions that vast right now.

Had zero to do with my opinion on any of it, as I didn't calculate one. The verse was for me also, hence why I said very little.
There is really only one point. And that is the believer in battle with our adversary, unseen.

When we stop seeing ourselves as only "me" in the equations of scripture, then every sight changes as both parties are addressed one way or the other every time

I understand this sight change is problematic because our adversary fights against us in that sight, and most are turned, quite inadvertently on their part to lying hypocrisy

Nothing personal mind you

But we remain tempted internally, regardless, by an adverse agent that is not "me" or "you" or any other people
 
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During Noah's time, God's will is for Noah to build an ark and for everyone to go into the ark.

That does not mean we should do that today. We must learn to rightly divide the word of truth.
All people yet today remain having evil present within them. Therefore God remains with a perpetual prerogative to take out anyone at any time He so pleases. No different than Noah's time or any other time for that matter. Just a matter of time and circumstance.

And when that happens the tempter or his own within that person is made homeless, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. Luke 11:24, Eccl. 12:7
 
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All people yet today remain having evil present within them. Therefore God remains with a perpetual prerogative to take out anyone at any time He so pleases. No different than Noah's time or any other time for that matter. Just a matter of time and circumstance.

And when that happens the tempter or his own within that person is made homeless, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. Luke 11:24, Eccl. 12:7

So what scripture would you take to understand what is God's will TODAY?
 
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So what scripture would you take to understand what is God's will TODAY?
Be honest. It's all we can do just to do that.

Even though I believe all people are going to be saved in the final analysis, and try to love my neighbors as myself, I am always cognizant that the evil present in my own sorry heart can never do what God has commanded or willed.

So who can?

God. In Him is my hope.

But that evil remains within me and within all. We are just NEVER honest about it. And why should we be? I don't care to spill anyone's beans, even less my own. It's not something we do. But we can at least give a nod to the fact, don't you think? I mean it's so obvious that the condition of the world and our thankfully short visit here is filled with evil and sometimes a glimmer of light
 
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Be honest. It's all we can do just to do that.

Even though I believe all people are going to be saved in the final analysis, and try to love my neighbors as myself, I am always cognizant that the evil present in my own sorry heart can never do what God has commanded or willed.

So who can?

God. In Him is my hope.

But that evil remains within me and within all. We are just NEVER honest about it. And why should we be? I don't care to spill anyone's beans, even less my own. It's not something we do. But we can at least give a nod to the fact, don't you think? I mean it's so obvious that the condition of the world and our thankfully short visit here is filled with evil and sometimes a glimmer of light

You don't understand my question, or you choose not to answer?
 
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You don't understand my question, or you choose not to answer?
If you're expecting to hear some way you saved and self justified yourself don't waste your breath with me
 
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If you're expecting to hear some way you saved and self justified yourself don't waste your breath with me

I was asking this question "So what scripture would you take to understand what is God's will TODAY?"

That question is as plain as it gets.
 
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I was asking this question "So what scripture would you take to understand what is God's will TODAY?"

That question is as plain as it gets.
The general gist is God Is Boss and only He knows what the whole plan is. We're not capable of grasping the entirety of His Purposes.

We do know He bound us all with disobedience so He may have mercy on all

How much can our disobedience grasp?

Not much, apparently
 
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The general gist is God Is Boss and only He knows what the whole plan is. We're not capable of grasping the entirety of His Purposes.

So you are saying that you believe no one, except him, knows his will for us today?

Alright then.

For me, I look at clear Pauline scriptures like 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18, to understand his will for us gentiles in the Body of Christ today.
 
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So you are saying that you believe no one, except him, knows his will for us today?
Already stated His Will is to have mercy. That would be "unmerited" mercy. That would also be "eternal mercy."

Do you know what that may be or consist of?

I certainly don't. It would only be guessing.
Alright then.

For me, I look at clear Pauline scriptures like 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18, to understand his will for us gentiles in the Body of Christ today.
My general preference is not to try to "horsecollar" God with my own imaginations. I like to contemplate things but that will never encompass, define or limit what God may really be up to.

We know for example that there are adverse judgments currently going on within everyone as well, and few care to ruminate on those subjects, preferring to or should I say led to overlook these parts of scriptures, desiring only to heap up all the good things to themselves and lay all the more dire aspects of scripture on other people. I personally think that is just a shame, and an expression of entirely false self justifications that don't hold scriptural water.
 
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