Historical ICE raid in Georgia

[DaisyDay]

Most of the So. Koreans were there legally and have been released. Trump has been kissing up to the president of Hyundai.

They ought not to have bee arrested in the first place. The warrant was only for four Hispanic workers.

NYT:Georgia ICE Raid Netted Workers With Short-Term Business Visas

 

[MyOwnSockPuppet]

They ought not to have bee arrested in the first place. The warrant was only for four Hispanic workers.

NYT:Georgia ICE Raid Netted Workers With Short-Term Business Visas

That ought to really upset the judge who signed it (and the collective judicial benches around the country) - the sheer mob-handedness that they turned up with is utterly inconsistent with trying to find four Hispanic people, unless they wanted to give them more than a bus each.

 

[DaisyDay]

That ought to really upset the judge who signed it (and the collective judicial benches around the country) - the sheer mob-handedness that they turned up with is utterly inconsistent with trying to find four Hispanic people, unless they wanted to give them more than a bus each.

It might be something like, "Sure we were only looking for these four individuals, but these other guys look foreign and didn't speak English sufficiently well, so..."

 

[essentialsaltes]

It might be something like, "Sure we were only looking for these four individuals, but these other guys look foreign and didn't speak English sufficiently well, so..."

That's pretty much it -- recently, ICE has been relying heavily on what it calls 'collateral' arrests.

One of the emails, written by Marcos Charles, the acting executive associate director of Ice’s enforcement and removal operations, instructs Ice officials to go after people they may coincidentally encounter.

“All collaterals encounters [sic] need to be interviewed and anyone that is found to be amenable to removal needs to be arrested,” Charles wrote, also saying: “We need to turn up the creative knob up to 11 and push the envelope.”

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It might be something like, "Sure we were only looking for these four individuals, but these other guys look foreign and didn't speak English sufficiently well, so..."

Over 400 agents participated in this massive event, and over 400 illegal workers were identified and detained.

Over 400 illegal workers were identified and detained. This was not a "we were looking for 4, so we arrested everyone who looked like them." THERE WAS OVER 400 IDENTIFIED ILLEGAL WORKERS! Trying to dismiss or downplay the sheer number of illegal workers is intellectually dishonest to the conversation.

 

[DaisyDay]

Over 400 illegal workers were identified and detained. This was not a "we were looking for 4, so we arrested everyone who looked like them." THERE WAS OVER 400 IDENTIFIED ILLEGAL WORKERS! Trying to dismiss or downplay the sheer number of illegal workers is intellectually dishonest to the conversation.

Except they weren't actually illegal.

 

[MyOwnSockPuppet]

Except they weren't actually illegal.

Ah why let minor matters like that get in the way when you're busy shooting your manufacturing investment strategy in the foot with both barrels.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Except they weren't actually illegal.

Can you point me to the source? Perhaps it was mentioned in this thread that I missed, but can you show me where the identified illegal workers were not, in fact, illegal?

 

[Tuur]

Except they weren't actually illegal.

Did they legally enter the US?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Can you point me to the source? Perhaps it was mentioned in this thread that I missed, but can you show me where the identified illegal workers were not, in fact, illegal?

It's not clear how many were here legally, but the number is not zero.

Since the Koreans all agreed 'voluntarily' to leave our welcoming shores, their cases won't be adjudicated, so we may never know unless more documents leak.

Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa​

Exclusive: critics accuse Ice of ‘outrageous’ and ‘unlawful’ detention of Korean man

At least one of the Korean workers swept up in a huge immigration raid on a Hyundai Motor factory site in Georgia last week was living and working legally in the US, according to an internal federal government document obtained by the Guardian.

Officials then “mandated” that he agree to be removed from the US despite not having violated his visa.

The document says that immigration agents from Atlanta “determined that [redacted] entered into the United States in [redacted], with a valid B1/B2 visa and [redacted] was employed at HL-GA Battery Company LLC as a contractor from the South Korean company SFA. From statements made and queries in law enforcement databases, [redacted] has not violated his visa; however, the Atlanta Field Office Director has mandated [redacted] be presented as a Voluntary Departure. [Redacted] has accepted voluntary departure despite not violating his B1/B2 visa requirements.”

It is not yet clear whether other people with valid visas were detained in the raid, nor how many were actually alleged to be working illegally at the factory.

The raid angered the South Korean government, which announced billions of dollars of investment in the US following a new trade deal between the countries. On Sunday, the South Korean and US governments negotiated a deal to take the arrested workers home.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It's not clear how many were here legally, but the number is not zero.

Since the Koreans all agreed 'voluntarily' to leave our welcoming shores, their cases won't be adjudicated, so we may never know unless more documents leak.

Well, if you read the article that was obvious. 475 detained - 400 identified illegal = 75 detained but not illegal and were released.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Well, if you read the article that was obvious. 475 detained - 400 identified illegal = 75 detained but not illegal and were released.

I was discussing one who was here legally and not released but 'voluntarily' deported with the rest of the Koreans (an unknown number of whom were also here legally).