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FBI Releases Images of Person of Interest in Kirk Killing

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A better shot of the shirt:
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Supposedly pro-trans and anti-fascist writing on the ammo, while wearing an eagle+flag shirt that I would not peg as something being favored by somebody on the far left. It'll be interesting to see what part of this is the misdirection.
 

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The FBI has released two photos of a new person of interest in the assassination of conservative speaker Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed Wednesday afternoon at Utah Valley University during a public speaking event.

The images show a thin male wearing jeans, a long-sleeved black shirt with an American flag graphic, black sunglasses and a hat.

Authorities said a short while later that the FBI was offering a $100,000 bounty for information that helps crack the case.

"The FBI is offering a reward of up to $100,000 for information leading to the identification and arrest of the individual(s) responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah," FBI Salt Lake City announced on X.

Investigators said Thursday morning that they had traced the sniper's escape route and recovered a "high-powered, bolt-action rifle," according to FBI Salt Lake City Special Agent in Charge Robert Bohls. He said they also had obtained foot, palm and forearm imprints linked to the crime.

The news came after two separate announcements from authorities about having someone in custody — and later releasing those individuals.

A single gunshot rang out around 12:20 p.m. local time, a school spokeswoman said, about 20 minutes into a speech from Kirk on campus at Utah Valley University.

Dispatchers audio includes a suspect description.

"He’s going to be wearing all black, black long gun, black tactical helmet, a black mask, possibly wearing a tactical vest and jeans," a female dispatcher said over the radio, according to recordings.

Authorities said the killer arrived around 11:52 a.m. and climbed to a rooftop through a campus building's stairwell. The 31-year-old Kirk's event began at noon. After the shooting, the suspected assassin jumped down the other side of the building and fled into a neighborhood, where police were canvassing for video evidence.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump wrote:

"The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead," Trump wrote. "No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!"
 
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It'll be interesting to see what part of this is the misdirection.

So, if I understand what you're saying here... you're suggesting that it could either be

"Antifa Trans activist, who intentionally dressed up in 'Murica clothes in order to get adjacent to the event without drawing attention"
or
"Conservative extremist, who intentionally put antifa trans activism messages on the gun and bullets left behind in order to cast negative attention on those communities"


I guess either is technically possible...

Only reason I would lean toward the former, is simply based on the fact that if it was a right-winger looking to do some sort of false flag attack to frame political rivals, you'd think they'd aim for the leg or something so that they would still able to "frame" the people they're looking to stir resentment against, without doing so at the expense of taking out one of their most influential figures.

...not to mention, I think that particular type of "false flag" stuff is pretty rare.

In most cases when it comes to motivations of these shooters, they almost always end up being "if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck" situations.
 
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I hope they catch them. They’ve managed to evade authorities longer than I’d have guessed.

Luigi managed to evade authorities for several days before they finally caught him.

I'm just hoping people don't try to make some sort of "folk hero" out of them like they did for Luigi.

With nonsense like this:

(not saying that all of the measures in the proposal are nonsense, just the aspect of naming it after him as if he was "a good guy")
 
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I'm just hoping people don't try to make some sort of "folk hero" out of them like they did for Luigi.
I’m sure he will be. If his name is Mario, it will be an entire thing.
 
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So, if I understand what you're saying here... you're suggesting that it could either be

"Antifa Trans activist, who intentionally dressed up in 'Murica clothes in order to get adjacent to the event without drawing attention"
or
"Conservative extremist, who intentionally put antifa trans activism messages on the gun and bullets left behind in order to cast negative attention on those communities"
That's correct.

Only reason I would lean toward the former, is simply based on the fact that if it was a right-winger looking to do some sort of false flag attack to frame political rivals, you'd think they'd aim for the leg or something so that they would still able to "frame" the people they're looking to stir resentment against, without doing so at the expense of taking out one of their most influential figures.

...not to mention, I think that particular type of "false flag" stuff is pretty rare.

In most cases when it comes to motivations of these shooters, they almost always end up being "if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck" situations.

I was thinking less "false flag" and more "accelerationist", though I concede that that may not be much of a difference.

TBH, I don't even know what to consider plausible or implausible anymore. My overton window of crazy is pretty big these days. It's not much, but what has me entertaining the accelerationist possibility more than I normally would is that the shooter seems to have been a young, clean cut white guy with a slight build and decent proficiency with a .30-06. 150 yards may not be a huge distance, but it takes some amount of practice to get a kill shot at that range on the first try. Who's more likely to fit that description - a raging lib so far left that he'd commit a public murder or a right-wing incel accelerationist? IOW, he looks more like Kyle Rittenhouse (aside from the build) than he looks like the guys who attacked and then were shot by Kyle Rittenhouse.
 
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Luigi managed to evade authorities for several days before they finally caught him.

I'm just hoping people don't try to make some sort of "folk hero" out of them like they did for Luigi.
Luigi only became a folk hero because he shot somebody that everybody hated.
 
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but what has me entertaining the accelerationist possibility more than I normally would is that the shooter seems to have been a young, clean cut white guy with a slight build and decent proficiency with a .30-06.

So you don’t think there are any young, clean cut white guys with a slight build and decent proficiency with a weapon on the left? That’s a pretty backhanded insult to the left.

IOW, he looks more like Kyle Rittenhouse (aside from the build) than he looks like the guys who attacked and then were shot by Kyle Rittenhouse.

You can tell that from a blurry photo with them wearing sunglasses and a hat?

Are you saying because they look like Kyle Rittenhouse they must share his political beliefs?
 
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Steve Lookner is reporting that claim that the bullets and gun had "symbols" of "trans/antifa ideology" is mistaken reporting. Some low level law enforcement must have been the source, but it's incorrect misindentification. The gun (a .30 caliber hunting rifle) and ammo are being taken to Quantico for analysis by the FBI.

There's no evidence of politically partisan motivation so far, as far as I'm concerned. Trump and other MAGA supporters are playing up that is was an obvious left-wing attack, but that seems unfounded speculation at this point.
 
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There's no evidence of politically partisan motivation so far, as far as I'm concerned.
Oh of course. I'll bet this was a very poorly planned armed robbery.
 
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Whether he is the person or not, I would say anyone who knows him can recognize him. In which case, he is going to have some very interesting interactions with ones who are his family and friends.

And even if he is guilty and somehow evades capture and is not recognized by family and friends, any time he looks someone in the eye he himself will know who they are looking at. He will know he is just putting on an act. And that may or may not matter to him, depending on how he really is. But he could hear some interesting things which family and friends will say about him . . . supposing they are talking about someone else!!

So . . . prayer for him and for anyone. Now Jesus the Lord rules what will happen.
 
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It's not much, but what has me entertaining the accelerationist possibility more than I normally would is that the shooter seems to have been a young, clean cut white guy with a slight build and decent proficiency with a .30-06. 150 yards may not be a huge distance, but it takes some amount of practice to get a kill shot at that range on the first try. Who's more likely to fit that description - a raging lib so far left that he'd commit a public murder or a right-wing incel accelerationist? IOW, he looks more like Kyle Rittenhouse (aside from the build) than he looks like the guys who attacked and then were shot by Kyle Rittenhouse.

The Antifa crowd may be more "gun proficient" than most people would assume...and certainly more "gun friendly" than the normal left.

While the right certainly has more of a fondness of guns than the left, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I believe the "skinny white dude who was proficient with a gun" fits the description of the guy who shot at Trump, yes?

Also, you mentioned the Rittenhouse thing, one of the guys he shot was a skinny white dude with a gun.
 
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A better shot of the shirt:
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Supposedly pro-trans and anti-fascist writing on the ammo, while wearing an eagle+flag shirt that I would not peg as something being favored by somebody on the far left. It'll be interesting to see what part of this is the misdirection.
Shows that you don't know enough about the far left. They are as patriotic as those on the far right.
 
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Steve Lookner is reporting that claim that the bullets and gun had "symbols" of "trans/antifa ideology" is mistaken reporting. Some low level law enforcement must have been the source, but it's incorrect misindentification. The gun (a .30 caliber hunting rifle) and ammo are being taken to Quantico for analysis by the FBI.

There's no evidence of politically partisan motivation so far, as far as I'm concerned. Trump and other MAGA supporters are playing up that is was an obvious left-wing attack, but that seems unfounded speculation at this point.



I've been listening to various viewpoints and coverage of this all day (A long day of traveling and sitting in airports... Airports on 9/11 come with long lines and delays, so had plenty of time on my hands)

Steven Crowder's investigator-for-hire, who they only refer to as "Jay" (but never give the person's real name) is apparently being given credit for providing this tip to the WSJ (at least according to Crowder) via a law enforcement memo leak. It should be noted, that's the same source who seemed to get the very early jump (also through a law enforcement leak) about the Nashville school shooter manifesto.

While I don't take anything Crowder says at face value until more information gets revealed, the fact that this is supposedly the same investigator who managed to get a copy of the manifesto (despite both LEO Brass and media outlets doing their darndest to try to make sure it never got revealed) makes me think there's at least a remote possibility that it's true.

 
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Normal left. There's a contradiction-in-terms.
That's not fair to say (and not helpful when trying to bring temperatures down)

I know plenty of people who I would consider left, but normal.

Reasonable people can disagree about tax policy, immigration law, and drug policy.
 
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So you don’t think there are any young, clean cut white guys with a slight build and decent proficiency with a weapon on the left?

Are there any? Sure? Are they uncommon, yeah IME.

That’s a pretty backhanded insult to the left.

Oh, there’s nothing backhanded about it. I’m pretty open about how cringey I find a lot of the left’s attitudes towards and knowledge about guns. I generally find myself agreeing with a lot of their conclusions while being embarrassed by the ways in which they arrived at them.

You can tell that from a blurry photo with them wearing sunglasses and a hat?

That he had short hair and was clean shaven? yes


Are you saying because they look like Kyle Rittenhouse they must share his political beliefs?

Must? No.

The Antifa crowd may be more "gun proficient" than most people would assume...and certainly more "gun friendly" than the normal left.

Perhaps.


I believe the "skinny white dude who was proficient with a gun" fits the description of the guy who shot at Trump, yes?

Well, he was skinny and white. He had long hair and a scraggly teenager beard, and idk how proficient he was with the rifle given that the only things he managed to kill were a spectator and a telehandler, not the nearly-immobile 6’3” overweight septuagenarian he was aiming at.

Just so everybody knows, I’m not remotely claiming this is some kind of definitive proof. I’ve said before that I’m surprised more people aren’t doing this sort of thing all the time. It’s not like it’s hard. Even getting away with it wouldn’t be too hard if you’re smart and careful - assuming your goal is just killing them and not also making a spectacle of it.
 
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Luigi only became a folk hero because he shot somebody that everybody hated.

"everybody"? Or just some specific cohorts?

Spencer Kimball, the executive director of Emerson College Polling, said 22 percent of Democrats said they found the killing acceptable, compared to 16 percent of independents and 12 percent of Republicans.

But a startling 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it completely acceptable.


According to a CloudResearch poll, 28% of people identifying as liberal supported the decision to commit the murder, compared to only 5% of conservatives.
 
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