Missions, evangelism and witnessing

[david p]

If one looks as though he/she could be in the wrong and acts as though he/she could be in the wrong but you're not sure if he/she is in the wrong you can at least be safe to say he/she is part in the wrong.

To whom do you outreach towards?


Crosswalks and speed limits. Placed for safety purposes. And if in violation, punishable with monetary citation. If a driver were to accidently hit a person crossing a 2 lane road because the pedestrian was not in the crosswalk the driver could need to endure, could suffer from distress.


There is strange test which occurs.
Deliberate lying and deceiving to have God prove, show that He Is True. And even to those that love Him over lies and deceit.
Think about how deceitful the lies could become as a test towards God to somehow free the victim from deliberate forming of lies and deceits...

But the stranger part? They assume Satan to be better. They assume Satan to be better BECAUSE God could not or did not have the liars and deceivers relent from their pursuit(s), in their opinion. They might not necessarily enjoy having others get hurt drliberately but their focus on having God prove Himself blinds them from seeing how much damage is being done.

And so the need to explain how Gentiles are not accountable to the Mosaic Law becomes almost priority. In other words God does not judge Gentiles by The laws handed to Moses .. So any concept that God judges Gentiles for their personal and family acceptable lifestyle(s) is not accurate. For those whose lifestyle might not be acceptable by their family might be slightly reminded and urged to, of all the love and prayers of their family but not so much judged.

 

[1Tonne]

I don't really understand your post but the last part looks as though you are saying that we should not point out peoples sins. If we do you think that we are judging them. But the bible says that we need to judge, and when we do it, we need to do it rightly.
“Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” John 7:24

 

[david p]

I don't really understand your post but the last part looks as though you are saying that we should not point out peoples sins. If we do you think that we are judging them. But the bible says that we need to judge, and when we do it, we need to do it rightly.
“Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” John 7:24

Righteous judgement is better than unrighteous mercy.

But what I meant was how are you able to distinguish between sinners, per se, since we're mostly Gentiles and how is an evangel supposed to keep safe from any seed spilling IF those individuals having beeni ministered to decides he/she was wrongfully evangelized to and demands retribution for pains and damages he/she needed to undergo? I mean, if permission is not given to sow seed upon his/her ground but done anyway, is that a form of trespass-ing?


So of course if one is going to do any sort of street evangelizing, if looking as could be and acting as could be wrong, then the evangel should not be blinded by any man concept that teaches that all should be treated equally.
But isn't evangelizing about having 'sinners' get to repentance? But again, as Gentiles not under Mosaic Law.

And this also is what differentiates between SDA and other non denominations. SDA will try to instill the Mosaic Law in some bits and pieces. Non denominational is okay with instilling (J)esus only.

But with both, that (J)esus person being the protagonist to accept also has His Father He needs to deal with if a person accepts Him without any proper understanding of what Law or Way of righteousness they were not prepared to venture upon.

So to know that Holiness is sanctification, evangelizing requires understanding to distinguish between person and person if going to ask another to join upon Their sanctification process.

To whom is being outreached? To those that have or to those that look as though they don't have.

Who seems as the lost sheep in your estimation?

Remember that to be lost that one requires to have gotten lost.


One is on the road.
That one is diverted off the road.
The same one chooses to pervert off the diverted road he/she was made to divert onto.
Because of the lack of knowledge of how to revert back onto the road, he/she perverts off the diverted road
Now being on a perverted road, he/she needs guidance back onto the original road.

That person has lost his/her way to get back onto that original road.

That person is lost. Not sight seeing.

Example?
Immigrants in strange industries but out of their cultural contexts...

Citizens in strange places but out of their cultural contexts ...
Etc...

Homelessness is not a U.S. cultural 'thing'.

If one looks as though he/she could be in the wrong and acts as though he/she could be in the wrong but you're not sure if he/she is in the wrong you can at least be safe to say he/she is part in the wrong.

Of course if you try to evangel a homeless V.A., sure, he/she might not be lost but rather neglected...

But not all homeless are V.A.s.

So if not a V.A. what is that 30 year old on the street being homeless, but not seeming to be doing wrong nor seeming to be acting wrong, doing?

And hence the second part of evangelizing. Leading them to the law of local government so they, the local government, can do their duties of being as a school master.

Now the judgement ways of local law that's going to be provided?

Now that government has become as the provider. And the ways learned needing to abide by, adhere to,... that provider begins to form a character within that once needing individual.

But the question was...
So if not a V.A. what is that 30 year old on the street being homeless, but not seeming to be doing wrong nor seeming to be acting wrong, doing?

There are different roads that a person can help and lead another divert back onto. One of local law and government, the other of Christian values and ethics..

Etc...

One could have become lost off of local law and Government another could have become lost off of Christian values and ethics..

Both needing to get back on their first road...


So local laws and government is gotten back upon...

But what about the Christian values and ethics? Where is that road? Or has it gotten even more strait and narrow to find?


So as the way gets broader and broader, ...

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:"
- Matthew 7:13

But can't this be seen as finding those outside of every road? Needing to have every way become broadened so as to reach any possible in the outskirts?

But if God doesn't ordain this way, who does?

Okay..
So you might be wondering, what's this person's point.

After drug related deaths began to rise because, of/the buyer/seller, 'trust' factors were being violated, things such as this has become a concern

 

[1Tonne]

I would continue with the discussion but I think you are a bot.

 

[david p]

I don't really understand your post but the last part looks as though you are saying that we should not point out peoples sins. If we do you think that we are judging them. But the bible says that we need to judge, and when we do it, we need to do it rightly.
“Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” John 7:24

Righteous judgement is better than unrighteous mercy.

But what I meant was how are you able to distinguish between sinners, per se, since wereostly Gentiles and how is an evangel supposed to keep safe from any seed spilling IF those individuals having beeni ministered to decides he/she was wrongfully evangelized to and demands retribution for pains and damages he/she needed to undergo?

I would continue with the discussion but I think you are a bot.

If you turn the ot in bot to uy, you might figure more as me needing ot.. J/J just joshing

And I'm not going to say U why I don't either.. loL
That's more Corporate... but... You're a Mod... so, hmm. I dunno.

Forgive me, Father...
I assumed a Mod could be a corporate!...
argghhh!


But in all sober seriousness
Remember the first Commandment with PROMISE....



Here's a riddle, of sorts..
If loving father or mother more than your first love; growing up in toddler, childhood, young teen, years, with your father and/or mother....
what does it mean?


Answer: ?

Really. ?


Ask a 3rd grader.



Response?
But what about loving your parents more than Him?


Answer?
Well, if you can't take care of yourself as an adult and provide for your parents .. I guess He wouldn't be too pleased?


Response:
Do you mean a leech?


Answer:
What's a leech?


Ma! How do you spell leech?



Response:
Ask your father.



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So to know that Holiness is sanctification, evangelizing requires understanding to distinguish between person and person if going to ask another to join upon Their sanctification process.


And thus the question...
IF ..
God Is Good... why then does suffering inflict innocence?



What do I mean?


So if not a V.A. what is that 30 year old on the street being homeless, but not seeming to be doing wrong nor seeming to be acting wrong, doing?



Acts 20:28-31(a) "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, ..."


Very important factor when evangelizing...



WW1
WW2
The great depression...
etc ..



American Atheists 2025 National Convention
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American Atheists - Wikipedia


Separate -


American Atheists was founded in 1963 by Madalyn Murray O'Hair as the Society of Separationists




But .
being a bot and being a buy ...

Not the same.



Should a non, local and Government law, keeper/honor-er be dealt with the same as a local and Government law keeper/honor-er?

If in Ohio but not honoring and keeping Ohio local laws but still keeping Constitution laws, should this person be dealt with in the same manner as a local Ohio resident who keeps and honors local Ohio laws as well as Constitution?

And as Law believing Christians, how is this different when dealing with any sort of believer?

But besides these there is a more factual point of reference .

https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/prayer-in-school-case/2014/11/02/id/603389/


And the changes of percentages within different social issues that affect citizens before/during/after is an eye opener.

Percentage changes such as highschool drop outs and unwanted pre age of voting pregnancies.

United States

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However, in many states, persons 17 years of age are permitted to vote in primary elections if they will be 18 years of age on or before the day of the general election. Some municipalities allow 16-year-olds to vote in local elections.

Voting age - Wikipedia


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt26-2-4/ALDE_00013941/['1']


These were families. Being offended or not is a topic of outside discussions.


A joke
A custodian working for a corporate building had to make sure that the lavatories were kept clean and in order.
But soon the custodian learned that even corporate workers were just as bowel-ly moved as any in any public restroom.

'How could this be', the custodian thought. 'Aren't corporate executives supposed to be of a higher social standing, even towards toilet etiquette and hygiene? There is the wash basin and hand soap disinfectant but why not a difference within the toilets and upon the toilets', the custodian wondered.


The lesson learned?

A person can choose how and what to eat but not necessarily how or what to poop.


2 males eating the same more likely will poo similarly. Depending on easy access to an available toilet and cleaning supply, the two would more likely than not poo similarly given equal parameters. So what about 'blow outs' is it that 'causes' a full grown male to have them upon toilet seats? Or is it a 'trick' that he learned as a teen that he retained? I mean, what did any use to do when they had these 'blow outs' as teens living in their parent's home? Leave it as they might as an adult in a public bathroom?

They would probably use the scrubber and/or plunger and wipe down, right?

Then in public places, these hygiene related supplies are not made available. But why might they not be? Because if one enters into a stall which had these available to find that the previous user did not 'clean up' after use, then this could come to cause 'discrimination'.. etc... and biasness based upon that 'local' environment. But/and what has this really caused up to today? The local 'gents' condoning and even being supportive of 'blow outs' being a normal, but not a daily, part of adult life. The local 'gents' find it wrong to point out blow outs as unnecessary and unhygienic towards any other 'male' which might have needed to use the toilet, as well, also, ... etc... being an adult with 'similar' doll(ar) making 'needs'....

But to have those 'cleaning' supplies readily available within same stall reach.... what might this lead to if the same 'uncleanness' occurred? Now this would be towards toilets and seats... But what about towards scrubber and what is left upon it and its holder and plunger inwards and outwards and holder; etc??

So it comes down to responsibility... But having 'discrimination' to any other male needing to find and keep 'responsibility?

How does this 'work'... let's see.

A male gets up out of bed as early as needed BECAUSE that male needs to abide by his employer's rules in order to receive an income. So upon his rising out of bed to the time he ends/finishes work, he basically is doing every moment for his employer. Needing to rise, get to work, battle traffic, not smell like any smoke, keeping hair in proper order,... etc... So from 6 to 5, let's assume, this male, in every hour, is awake and doing for his employer. But when he goes into a restroom and has a blow out. 'darn', he might think. Another responsibility I need to keep charge of? Darn!

 

[david p]

A male gets up out of bed as early as needed BECAUSE that male needs to abide by his employer's rules in order to receive an income. So upon his rising out of bed to the time he ends/finishes work, he basically is doing every moment for his employer. Needing to rise, get to work, battle traffic, not smell like any smoke, keeping hair in proper order,... etc... So from 6 to 5, let's assume, this male, in every hour, is awake and doing for his employer. But when he goes into a restroom and has a blow out. 'darn', he might think. Another responsibility I need to keep charge of? Darn!

So what exactly does The Holy Bible mention/say as to what daily 'labor'/'work' should be? And what is the difference between 'labor' and 'work'?

1 exampled difference(s)...
“Labor” vs. “Work”: What’s the Difference? - Engram

I worked on correcting my homework mistakes.
I worked on the piano piece I'm learning to play.
I practiced on the piano piece I'm learning to play.

I went to work on a piano piece I'm learning to play.


Here's an example.
When constipation becomes work in order to relieve self, it is frustrating.
But when constipation becomes labor in order to relieve self, it might need medical attention.


What do I mean?


So if not a V.A. what is that 30 year old on the street being homeless, but not seeming to be doing wrong nor seeming to be acting wrong, doing?

Neither laboring nor working? Being leisurely? As if he/she might be on vacation in Hawaii being Lei-sure-ly?

If not being Lei-surely, and if not laboring.... then could that person be working on something that is not being 'noticed'? per se... In all honesty, who would 'enjoy' being homeless and then on top of that to be seen? Right?


So if that 30 year old male is not 'homeless', but out and about during 'work hours', then surely he must be on his break or lunch, no? Now stand by any road and see how many cars drive by during working hours.... these are either on vacation, going somewhere or coming from somewhere... during daily work hours... and the majority of these cars/drivers with State license plates...

But of course those working or attending school during working hours would probably not be aware of what occurs out in public because they are not in public while working or attending school.

But if wanting to do an investigation of sorts, being out in public stealthily could have the person wonder the same. Where are all these drivers going to, coming from during working hours?


So most probable logic for me:
1. Graduates of High School with or without a trade work; such as plumber, electrician, IT programmer, etc.. but also without a business related job, such as those that might require at least a B.A. from College or University.

Because trade and business/administrative jobs require working hours to be employed within.

One of my head relatives didn't have a college degree but was employed in a trade. But owning a home, or paying off the home, requires working hours. And so another difference. Home ownership versus apartment renter.


So if that 30 year old male is not 'homeless', but out and about during 'work hours', then surely he must be on his break or lunch, no? Now stand by any road and see how many cars drive by during working hours.... these are either on vacation, going somewhere or coming from somewhere... during daily work hours... and the majority of these cars/drivers with State license plates...

most probable logic for me:
1. Graduates of High School with or without a trade work; such as plumber, electrician, IT programmer, etc.. but also without a business related job, such as those that might require at least a B.A. from College or University.

So, wow! An adult person can own a nice vehicle without needing to be earning a payroll paycheck. And supposedly without having earned a college degree. Wow.

As Mr. Nelson asked.. Mammas don't let your kids to grow up to be cowboys. Let them be doctors and lawyers and such.


And so the beginning of being a homo sapien. A person that can be knowledgeable. What would the knowledge being sought be?

Maybe, then from where did they earn for their responsibility needs.. Because weren't we taught to not take monies lightly?

From here a knowledgeable plan can begin and with knowledge and not as being blind. Otherwise I might have been thinking that I should be as 'they'...

And again this being a Christian forum and not a cynical forum, trying to share the Good message. And why call me Good? Only one is God.

But should I leave alone my brothers and sisters of the household of faith to their selves and to their own blindness?

Because it's obvious that those road vehicles are not hollow-grams.