A whites-only community in Arkansas looking to start a franchise in Missouri

[Servus]

I see this thread has strayed a ways off topic

 

[Bradskii]

In this day and age...

I'm not interested. You have no compassion. I have no interest in discussing this any further with you.

 

[Bradskii]

Apparently it's not a humanitarian disaster. Apparently it's just Palestinians are evil and deserve this because they are bad and Israel is good.

And, remember, empathy is evil.

The complete lack of anything approaching compassion is horrifying.

 

[Larniavc]

“Motivated reasoning is defined as the process by which individuals distort incoming information to align with their prior beliefs, often driven by a conflict between the motivation for accuracy and the desire to reach preferred conclusions.”https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/motivated-reasoning

Hilariously, this is exactly what you have done.


A proper investigation would give us a conclusive answer.

In what ways was the interview of a doctor on the ground in situ not a proper investigation? The IDF and Hamas both have form for indiscriminate killing. Unless you are going to insist that Hamas are sniper killing their own kids?

 

[MrMoe]

I'm not interested. You have no compassion. I have no interest in discussing this any further with you.

Not quoting my whole post and claiming I have no compassion tells me you are not debating in good faith.

 

[MrMoe]

In what ways was the interview of a doctor on the ground in situ not a proper investigation?

Hospital doctors aren’t trained to investigate who fired a gunshot. This should be obvious.

The IDF and Hamas both have form for indiscriminate killing. Unless you are going to insist that Hamas are sniper killing their own kids?

Hamas uses it’s own citizens as human shields.

Hamas sniper killing their own people wouldn’t be a surprise.

 

[Bradskii]

Not quoting my whole post and claiming I have no compassion tells me you are not debating in good faith.

Your posts speak for themselves. They are there for all to read. You're an apologist for what Netanyahu and the Israeli forces are doing. They can apparently do no wrong.

 

[MrMoe]

Your posts speak for themselves. They are there for all to read. You're an apologist for what Netanyahu and the Israeli forces are doing. They can apparently do no wrong.

Never made that claim. Now you’re putting words in my mouth. Very dishonest.

By the way, why aren’t you in this thread talking about this happening in Gaza right now?

Hamas knows exactly what it is doing. Starvation is a bargaining chip; the emaciated hostage is a living press release.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-863036 Realize that the people of Gaza continue to allow Hamas to rule.

www.christianforums.com

Seems to me like a lack of compassion.

 

[Bradskii]

Never made that claim.

Because it's difficult to actually come out and say it. Most people talk around it. Excuse obvious atrocities. Complain about propaganda. Talk about fake news. Throw doubt on journalist's reports. Blame everything on a terrorist organisation. Support the bombing of refugee camps. Deny the death toll. And completely ignore the human toll, the starvation, the broken and burnt bodies, the countless children dead and dying, the very inhumanity of it all.

It's in post after post after post, by the same people all the time.

 

[MrMoe]

Because it's difficult to actually come out and say it.

Actually, it would be very easy to come out and say it, if I actually believed what you are accusing me of believing.

Most people talk around it. Excuse obvious atrocities.

Haven’t seen a single person do that on this thread.

Complain about propaganda. Talk about fake news. Throw doubt on journalist's reports.

Because propaganda and fake news are a big problem.

Blame everything on a terrorist organisation. Support the bombing of refugee camps. Deny the death toll. And completely ignore the human toll, the starvation, the broken and burnt bodies, the countless children dead and dying, the very inhumanity of it all.
It's in post after post after post, by the same people all the time.

Again, haven’t seen a single person do any of these things you are claiming, in this thread or any other thread. You’re making a lot of inflammatory statements.

 

[Bradskii]

Again, haven’t seen a single person do any of these things you are claiming, in this thread or any other thread. You’re making a lot of inflammatory statements.

Oh, that is absolute bulldust.

Blame everything on a terrorist organisation: 'They are bombing hospitals because Hamas is hiding underneath them.' How many times have we seen that posted? You can't deny it.

Support the bombing of refugee camps: 'Oh, but they were told to leave. It's their fault if the decide to stay'. That's a paraphrase of one of your posts not a day or so ago. You can't deny it.

Deny the death toll: 'But the Health Ministry is run by Hamas. It's all lies'. A constant refrain. You can't deny it.

And completely ignore the human toll, the starvation: I don't see anyone who takes your position shedding any tears about it.'Hey, that mother looked well fed' was one comment recently. And after umpteen posts that you have made on this matter, after me constantly complaining about the lack of compassion shown in threads like this, at the end of a lengthy post you made about about fake AI images of the destruction of whole neighbourhoods supplied by Hamas and how the destruction of hospitals was all a lie, we get this: 'I am sad at all the lives lost from Hamas instigating this war.'

Apart from being unable to discuss the deaths without specifically blaming Hamas and completely ignoring Israel's complicity in the tens of thousands of deaths, we eventually find out that you are 'sad'. 70,000 vapourised at Nagasaki? Oh, that's sad. Thousands die in the Twin Towers? Gosh, that's sad. 45,000 burnt to death in Tokyo. How sad. Over 60,000 men, women and children blown up, burnt and crushed in Gaza? Maybe write to Trump, telling him he has to do more to stop the carnage. Because it's making you sad.

 

[MrMoe]

Oh, that is absolute bulldust.

Blame everything on a terrorist organisation: 'They are bombing hospitals because Hamas is hiding underneath them.' How many times have we seen that posted? You can't deny it.

Support the bombing of refugee camps: 'Oh, but they were told to leave. It's their fault if the decide to stay'. That's a paraphrase of one of your posts not a day or so ago. You can't deny it.
Deny the death toll: 'But the Health Ministry is run by Hamas. It's all lies'. A constant refrain. You can't deny it.

Those aren’t paraphrases, those are complete misrepresentations of what I said.

And completely ignore the human toll,

I mentioned the human toll in one of my posts.

the starvation:

Strange that you’re ignoring this thread then.

Hamas knows exactly what it is doing. Starvation is a bargaining chip; the emaciated hostage is a living press release.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-863036 Realize that the people of Gaza continue to allow Hamas to rule.

www.christianforums.com

I don't see anyone who takes your position shedding any tears about it.'Hey, that mother looked well fed' was one comment recently. And after umpteen posts that you have made on this matter, after me constantly complaining about the lack of compassion shown in threads like this, at the end of a lengthy post you made about about fake AI images of the destruction of whole neighbourhoods supplied by Hamas and how the destruction of hospitals was all a lie, we get this: 'I am sad at all the lives lost from Hamas instigating this war.'

This contradicts your previous statement of me completely ignoring the human toll.

Apart from being unable to discuss the deaths without specifically blaming Hamas and completely ignoring Israel's complicity in the tens of thousands of deaths, we eventually find out that you are 'sad'. 70,000 vapourised at Nagasaki? Oh, that's sad. Thousands die in the Twin Towers? Gosh, that's sad. 45,000 burnt to death in Tokyo. How sad. Over 60,000 men, women and children blown up, burnt and crushed in Gaza? Maybe write to Trump, telling him he has to do more to stop the carnage. Because it's making you sad.

This thread as been completely derailed from all this Israel kvetching. If you want to continue this discussion we should move it to an appropriate thread like this one:

Hamas knows exactly what it is doing. Starvation is a bargaining chip; the emaciated hostage is a living press release.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-863036 Realize that the people of Gaza continue to allow Hamas to rule.

www.christianforums.com

 

[Bradskii]

Those aren’t paraphrases, those are complete misrepresentations of what I said.

Well, you aren't the only one saying things like that. I'm paraphrasing because I really can't be bothered to troll through umpteen posts of people saying the most depressing things in this forum to give you specific quotes. And don't bulldust me. I don't need to do that because I know that you've seen enough of it to know, to really understand that what I'm saying is on point. But no, hang on. Let's look at that thread to which you linked.

The very first post accuses Hamas of starving Gaza. Not Israel. Israel is refusing to release the food, but it's the fault of Hamas. Any mention of the people who are actually starving? Of course not. This wasn't a call for more aid. This was a political post supporting Israel and denigrating Hamas.

The next? They all supported the Hamas massacre in Gaza. So? So that obviously means that they deserve everything they get. Sixty thousand dead? Women and chilkdren? It's their own fault.

Next? A complaint that people are vilifying the very country that's causing all these deaths. They are complaining about Israel killing tens of thousands of people. Shame on them!

Next? It's evil Marxist policies that are the cause. Nothing to do with the tonnage of munitions that Israel is dropping on Gaza. Darn it, Marx, you have a lot to answer for! More politics.

Another? Well, let's all agree that Israel can take more land at every step of the way. And hey, what about all that money from...I dunno, the left? It's pouring in to supply propaganda. Shame on the left!

So any compassion shown? Anyone sad about the deaths? Anyone think that the killing has to stop? That aid should be released? Nah, fat chance. You just gotta be kidding me. It's only 19 posts long, but it's a microcosm of the thought processes that some people have. Check it out over the next few days. It'll be more of the same. It turns my stomach.

 

[ralliann]

And you are inventing reasons to give the IDF a pass for deliberately targeting kids; seemingly for kicks.

What happened to sympathy, empathy? This can make one question any is really there in the first place.

 

[ralliann]

Apparently it's not a humanitarian disaster. Apparently it's just Palestinians are evil and deserve this because they are bad and Israel is good.

And, remember, empathy is evil.

-CryptoLutheran

One wonders if it is just a ruse in the first place. I suspect it is not.

 

[DaisyDay]

Hey, what's this I hear about a whites-only community in Arkansas looking to start a franchise in Missouri?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Sky News goes inside the whites-only community in Arkansas.

"You want a white nation? Build a white town," Eric Orwoll says, in one video posted on social media. "It can be done. We're doing it."​

As the Arkansas sun beats down, dozens of men are hammering posts into the red-brown earth, building a fence to mark out the boundary.

Over the last year and a half, high up in the hills and woods of the Ozarks, the group has been working hard: levelling the land, laying roads, building cabins. There are wells, a community centre and a school house, where the children do their lessons.

Warning: this report contains themes of racism and homophobia which some readers might find distressing

Friday evening, and around 20 members of RTTL are sitting outside on the benches in the communal area, eating burgers and drinking warm milk, fresh from the goats kept on the land.​

Many of the wider group did not want to be here with journalists; I'm told they include law enforcement officers and federal agents.

Orwoll believes in the far-right conspiracy theory of "white genocide", that white people are being destroyed, deliberately, by mass immigration and cultural indoctrination. RTTL is his response to this.

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In other RTTL-related news, I invite you all to mentally finish this sentence in a way that seems sensible to you before clicking the link.

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — The co-founder of Return to the Land (RTTL), a whites-only private member association developing a community in northern Arkansas and expanding to Missouri, has spoken to Ozarks First regarding a stabbing incident he was involved in at a

 

[Hans Blaster]

In other RTTL-related news, I invite you all to mentally finish this sentence in a way that seems sensible to you before clicking the link.

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — The co-founder of Return to the Land (RTTL), a whites-only private member association developing a community in northern Arkansas and expanding to Missouri, has spoken to Ozarks First regarding a stabbing incident he was involved in at a

I did not see that one coming.

 

[Desk trauma]

I did not see that one coming.

Twisted harder than M Night Shyamalan could.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Twisted harder than M Night Shyamalan could.

This probably means something, but I am unfamiliar with his films.