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Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

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Basically. Ever since they tried putting the kibosh on the Epstein story everything has felt like a diversion away from that whole mess.

Releasing it all would have been easy for this administration, and the fact they didn't and then Trump starts bashing his own base is wild. It's like they are in self-destruct mode. I get it, though, he's nasty and they fear it would become obvious if all the docs were released. I mean, it's already obvious to normal people.
 
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Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

However, on Wednesday, CNN proved it sometimes knows when to stop: namely, when Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard starts listing inconvenient facts.​
So, for those of you who missed it, Gabbard was laying out even more of the evidence she had that the outgoing administration of former President Barack Obama, in late 2016 and early 2017, essentially manufactured the Russia hoax out of intelligence that was dodgy at best and invented at worst.​
It's just fantastic! I love that quote - so true to "The Western Journal".

It's just so convenient when one can dip into the pool of one's echo chamber with such ease, and have one's proclivities reaffirmed so easily!

Let's not let any ACTUALLY inconvenient truths into our news stream! Echo-chamber all the way!

So just stick to your MIXED quality reporting with an EXTREME right bias - and you'll be fine!

Reality need never bother you again.


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Right. The point is this whole Obama story is just distracting from the much more current scandals of the Trump administration.
There are no scandals in the Trump administration.
 
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"The sports and political commentator has a mixed record when it comes to the issues."

So he's a perfect source for Western Journal.

"But when he's right, he's right."

Two can play the tautology game:

And when he's wrong, he's wrong.
 
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Unlike the liberals mainstream media, we refuse to sweep the lies and scandals of the Obama administration under the rug.
There was no Russia Hoax (the investigation found dozens of criminals in the Trump team who admitted guilt), no censorship, and no Obama scandal.
 
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And as best could be told without checking out a link presented it as if it was your own work. When things are quoted the reader should be informed of the quoted nature (if not the source) *before* reaching the text. If you had just moved the link to the top and then added "Margot wrote:" or something like it before the text there would have been no confusion, or false impression of authorship

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"The sports and political commentator has a mixed record when it comes to the issues."

So he's a perfect source for Western Journal.

"But when he's right, he's right."

Two can play the tautology game:

And when he's wrong, he's wrong.
But, in this story, he is not wrong.
 
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There was no Russia Hoax (the investigation fund dozens of criminals in the Trump team who admitted guilt), no censorship, and no Obama scandal.
This post is filled with incorrect information.
 
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Even Stephen A. Smith understands how serious this is.
And you're quoting the Western Journal again.
Which is quoting some due quoting Tulsi Gabbard's demonstrably false claims.

A biased paper quoting a dude quoting Gabbard's administrative bias.
Or is that Regime bias? These days - I can't quite tell what the appropriate word is for the White House.

Just keep quoting The Western Journal. Don't let any nasty 'reality' get in the way - whatever you do!
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There was no Russia Hoax (the investigation found dozens of criminals in the Trump team who admitted guilt), no censorship, and no Obama scandal.
This seems to be the reality as reported by government enquiries, and more reality-based independent journalists not just running with 'whatever wind of teaching' the White House fan club reports.

EG: Here's some data the "Western Journal" would not really bother with. It's the Mueller Report - and I bet this would send the Western Journal into excessive "magic handwaving syndrome"!

While the report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities",[4][5][6] investigators had an incomplete picture of what happened due in part to some communications that were encrypted, deleted, or not saved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete, or declined.[7][8][9] The report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion",[10][11][12] and was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.[13][14][15] It also identified multiple links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies,[16] about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.[4] Mueller later stated that his investigation's findings of Russian interference "deserves the attention of every American".[17]
Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice. The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgment that Trump committed a crime.[18][19][20] This decision was based on an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution,[21][22][23] and Mueller's belief that it would be unfair to accuse the president of a crime even without charging him because he would have no opportunity to clear his name in court; furthermore it would undermine Trump's ability to govern and preempt impeachment.[19][22][24][21][25] As such, the investigation "does not conclude that the President committed a crime"; however, "it also does not exonerate him",[26][27] with investigators not confident of Trump's innocence.[28][29][30][31] The report describes ten episodes where Trump may have obstructed justice while president and one before he was elected,[32][33] noting that he privately tried to "control the investigation".[34][35][36] The report further states that Congress can decide whether Trump obstructed justice and take action accordingly,[19][37][38] referencing impeachment.[39][40]

 
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This seems to be the reality as reported by government enquiries, and more reality-based independent journalists not just running with 'whatever wind of teaching' the White House fan club reports.

EG: Here's some data the "Western Journal" would not really bother with. It's the Mueller Report - and I bet this would send the Western Journal into excessive "magic handwaving syndrome"!

While the report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities",[4][5][6] investigators had an incomplete picture of what happened due in part to some communications that were encrypted, deleted, or not saved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete, or declined.[7][8][9] The report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion",[10][11][12] and was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.[13][14][15] It also identified multiple links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies,[16] about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.[4] Mueller later stated that his investigation's findings of Russian interference "deserves the attention of every American".[17]
Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice. The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgment that Trump committed a crime.[18][19][20] This decision was based on an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution,[21][22][23] and Mueller's belief that it would be unfair to accuse the president of a crime even without charging him because he would have no opportunity to clear his name in court; furthermore it would undermine Trump's ability to govern and preempt impeachment.[19][22][24][21][25] As such, the investigation "does not conclude that the President committed a crime"; however, "it also does not exonerate him",[26][27] with investigators not confident of Trump's innocence.[28][29][30][31] The report describes ten episodes where Trump may have obstructed justice while president and one before he was elected,[32][33] noting that he privately tried to "control the investigation".[34][35][36] The report further states that Congress can decide whether Trump obstructed justice and take action accordingly,[19][37][38] referencing impeachment.[39][40]
Clearly with the recently declassified documents and emails, we can see that the Mueller report got a lot of stuff incorrect.
 
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You've been refutiated by the indictments, confessions, the Mueller Teport (see above); and the fact that the President cannot be censored due to the fact that he has his own TV station and his own website.

Obama wore a tan suit, I'll give you that.
 
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Clearly with the recently declassified documents and emails, we can see that the Mueller report got a lot of stuff incorrect.
In other words, the Trump organization committed more crimes than they were charged with. The confessions weren't fake.
 
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But, in this story, he is not wrong.
Haha, ok. When Obama faces a firing squad you can say I'm wrong. But for now... Smith and the Western Journal are wrong in my book.
 
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Haha, ok. When Obama faces a firing squad you can say I'm wrong. But for now... Smith and the Western Journal are wrong in my book.
No one is going to face a firing squad. However, Obama and his cronies in the intelligence community certainly appears to be deeply implicated in this scandal.
 
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In other words, the Trump organization committed more crimes than they were charged with. The confessions weren't fake.
In other words, the exact opposite of your post is the truth and the facts.
 
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