What is your opinion and experience with women with short hair?

[timewerx]

I didn't say anything of salvation. Salvation is between an individual and God.

I said that women are appearing more like men. And it is forbidden. A woman must be clearly distinguishable from a man. It is forbidden for a woman to have the same apparel as men.

But you mentioned it is a sin.

Hair length is only ever discussed by Apostle Paul and as a requirement of the Nazirite vow and nowhere else in Bible.

and Paul often takes things by the cultural context - 1 Corinthians 9:19-23. "Blending in" so you do not cause offense nor standout (typically among unbelievers so they maybe won). It is not law unless you're a Nazirite. No laws for hair means you're not sinning with whatever you do to your hair unless you're wasting way too much time and money on it.

So there's nothing with women cutting their hair short. You may not be attracted to them, that's okay. What's not okay is you resent women for doing something that isn't really a sin and Jesus and the rest of the Bible doesn't make a big deal about it unless you're Nazirite.

 

[prudent_commenter]

But you mentioned it is a sin.

Hair length is only ever discussed by Apostle Paul and as a requirement of the Nazirite vow and nowhere else in Bible.

If a woman is not easily distinguishable from a man, it is sin.

Without the hair, you'll distinguish her how, exactly? I'm not talking about taking the time to analyze. I mean readily apparent, something that screams a person is a man, or a woman.

And Paul wrote most of the New Testament. Do we pick which parts we follow?

It is not law unless you're a Nazirite. No laws for hair means you're not sinning with whatever you do to your hair unless you're wasting way too much time and money on it.

So there's nothing with women cutting their hair short. You may not be attracted to them, that's okay. What's not okay is you resent women for doing something that isn't really a sin and Jesus and the rest of the Bible doesn't make a big deal about it unless you're Nazirite.

In the old law, it makes a big deal of appearance, and clothing of the opposite sex.

 

[A New Dawn]

If it's a choice, it's a choice. If it's a problem, it's a problem.

People always look at the surface.

What I like is what God made. I like the real side of things, as they are.

You see, if I were to be a man that only had short hair, I would probably agree. But with long-hair I know the struggles of it. And I do not see them as struggles. Now, if there were medical issues, other problems, I understand. But this I-don't-want-long-hair-because-it-is-a-lot-of-work does not move on me. I know the work implied by long hair.

Can't do that. God wouldn't like it, and it's also against the scripture. And I dislike it as well.

I did. And you ignored it the topic.

LOL. How did I avoid the topic??? I told you about my opinion and experience with women with short hair. I guess you are just too shallow to understand or have compassion for people whose lives and struggles are different from your own and your own superficial expectations.

I think God cares more about how I respond to the guidance of the Holy Spirit in my life than how long or short my hair is.

 

[Godcrazy]

If its not hair it is the weight, if it is not that it is something else . See the point.
Love has nothing to do with it
Wether someone truly lives like a christian or not should be more important and truly are saved
I have always had long hair as that is what I feel best in but I could not access a hair dresser during covid and my hair tangles and filters, if I don`t trim regularly as a result I had to cut a lot and it became thinner than beforehand as scandinavian hair is typically fine thinner hair. More hair,but thinnner and silky. Can`t do extensions for same reasons, I would lose all I have. SO it is only wigs left. But that is not permanent solution however I have what you see here. My mother lost most hair when she gave birth. But she was also a smoker so hard to say. I have heard that rosemary oil should grow hair.
I think the post might be misdirected with another question behind as it doesn`t seem to me it is about wether long hair is feminine or not but how women have changed.

 

[Free2bHeretical4Him!]

In my personal experience, there is a big difference between women with long hair and women with short hair.

As per the scripture, a woman's hair is her glory. Her beauty comes from her hair, and is a gift from God simply because not all women can grow long hair.

What I've noticed about women with short hair is the desire to go against their nature. The hair is simply a noticeable change, but with the hair comes others changes that one doesn't see. Whenever I see short hair on a woman. I see it as a question: what brought it up? Or who brought it up? In today's society, it is known that after failed marriages|relationships, women tend to desire radical changes that seem to be out of impulsiveness.

It's curious that this should exist because the majority of men love long hair on women. Cutting it short would certainly fit the agendas in place by society. It is bad for multiple reasons: 1. they make women look like men; 2. they make them "forget" their own nature. In both cases, it sin. Apart from the agendas, it also seems to be consuming a lot more. From a logical standpoint, short hair would consume less products, and take less time. But it doesn't. Quite the opposite: more time, and more products. (And we live in a society of consumption.) So women that say it's easier, it doesn't seem right. Easier is going with the nature, and not opposing it.

On top of this it just doesn't look good. I deduced last year that, without their long hair, all of their imperfections are more pronounced. It's the forcing of imperfections, where there are none to be seen. And I have also linked it to their so-called female intuition. It would appear you are at your best when you are embracing your true self, as God has made you.

Thus, the women I've talked to, or have observed them, it seems to be those with long-hair do things naturally, they ease into it, and think before they act. On the opposite, short-hair tends to be impulsive, forceful.

As for me, I am a man with long-hair and long-beard for two reasons: 1. I consider them a gift from God; and 2. God told me to leave the hair alone (for now anyway).

This entire post drips of self righteousness. Is filled with generalities. Extremely judgmental in nature and delivered in arrogance. And in my opinion, a complete offense to women. Just an unbelievably inconsiderate and ignorant post.

 

[A New Dawn]

If a woman is not easily distinguishable from a man, it is sin.

No, it’s not.

Do we pick which parts we follow?


In the old law, it makes a big deal of appearance, and clothing of the opposite sex.

Yes. We are not under the law anymore. It was fulfilled by Christ.

I can’t wait to see the thread you post about men with long hair if that is how you tell the difference between men and women.

 

[timewerx]

If a woman is not easily distinguishable from a man, it is sin.

Without the hair, you'll distinguish her how, exactly? I'm not talking about taking the time to analyze. I mean readily apparent, something that screams a person is a man, or a woman.

And Paul wrote most of the New Testament. Do we pick which parts we follow?


In the old law, it makes a big deal of appearance, and clothing of the opposite sex.

Do you sacrifice animals for your sins and stone some sinners to death if you give that much weight to the old law?

Jesus already gave examples why being flexible about the old laws can bring good.

There are situations short hair is good for women - high temperature tropical climates such as women living in Africa, women having to deliberately disguise as men to avoid oppression, they don't want attracting attention from men for many good reasons, it just make things easier for them.

A woman's purpose is not to give random men something good to look at but only to their husband. You may have a point if you're venting frustration about your wife if that's the case but it's only be between you two. It don't matter to you if other women does short hair and in end, it shouldn't matter to you either if that woman with short hair is your wife. Love her for who she is.

 

[prudent_commenter]

Do you sacrifice animals for your sins and stone some sinners to death if you give that much weight to the old law?

By that logic, we should advertise the lying with the same sex. because we don't keep the old law. As far as I know, the new law doesn't condemn it. Quote me the scripture.

Jesus already gave examples why being flexible about the old laws can bring good.

Yes, but it doesn't apply to all, which is what you are doing.

There are situations short hair is good for women - high temperature tropical climates such as women living in Africa, women having to deliberately disguise as men to avoid oppression, they don't want attracting attention from men for many good reasons, it just make things easier for them.

Of course it is. People do whatever they can to survive. Perhaps I was not explicit when i replied to that other woman: what is a a choice, is a choice. Being forced is another thing. Apples and oranges.

A woman's purpose is not to give random men something good to look at but only to their husband. You may have a point if you're venting frustration about your wife if that's the case but it's only be between you two. It don't matter to you if other women does short hair and in end, it shouldn't matter to you either if that woman with short hair is your wife. Love her for who she is.

And this is why I dislike such debates. Everyone reads the title, and nothing else. Should you have read, you would not have posted this.

 

[prudent_commenter]

No, it’s not.

Quote the verses on it. All of them, new and old law.

Yes. We are not under the law anymore. It was fulfilled by Christ.

And, in your opinion, how does that entail to the abomination written in the bible. Are they doable/undoable, what?

I can’t wait to see the thread you post about men with long hair if that is how you tell the difference between men and women.

The only way long is hair is permissive on men is if they also have beards, and the hair is not adorned. You can wait, it will come.

 

[prudent_commenter]

This entire post drips of self righteousness. Is filled with generalities. Extremely judgmental in nature and delivered in arrogance. And in my opinion, a complete offense to women. Just an unbelievably inconsiderate and ignorant post.

It's only offense to women if you believe that you have to accept the current times. I accept the law, not the times.

If in your mind, anyone that follows the Word, is self-righteous, by all means. God will decide who is what. I do not put trust, nor appraisal in man.

 

[Strong in Him]

In my personal experience, there is a big difference between women with long hair and women with short hair.

Had short hair nearly all my life - except for a couple of years in junior school.

As per the scripture, a woman's hair is her glory. Her beauty comes from her hair, and is a gift from God simply because not all women can grow long hair.

Well we had no choice during lockdown.
Don't get it cut - simple.

What I've noticed about women with short hair is the desire to go against their nature.

I've had short hair nearly all my life - it has nothing to do with my nature.

The hair is simply a noticeable change, but with the hair comes others changes that one doesn't see.

Such as?

Whenever I see short hair on a woman. I see it as a question: what brought it up? Or who brought it up?

Many women prefer short hair.

In today's society, it is known that after failed marriages|relationships, women tend to desire radical changes that seem to be out of impulsiveness.

Some women change their appearance after a divorce - which may be about wanting to look good, regain confidence or because their husband was controlling, told them what to do and wouldn't let them think for themselves.

It's curious that this should exist because the majority of men love long hair on women.

Really? You've asked them all?

Cutting it short would certainly fit the agendas in place by society.

What "agendas"?

It is bad for multiple reasons: 1. they make women look like men; 2. they make them "forget" their own nature.

Nonsense.

In both cases, it sin.

Not even close.

From a logical standpoint, short hair would consume less products, and take less time. But it doesn't.

Yes, it does.
Wash hair, go - end of. No conditioner, hair spray, styling wax, clips, bows etc.
Yes, I also have mine coloured (pink) which takes an hour in a salon every few months, but that's it.

On top of this it just doesn't look good.

Matter of opinion and personal taste.

I deduced last year that, without their long hair, all of their imperfections are more pronounced.

Nonsense.

And I have also linked it to their so-called female intuition.

You've linked it incorrectly.

It would appear you are at your best when you are embracing your true self, as God has made you.

Yes.
Nothing to do with length of hair. Everyone is born with short hair, or none at all.

Thus, the women I've talked to, or have observed them, it seems to be those with long-hair do things naturally, they ease into it, and think before they act. On the opposite, short-hair tends to be impulsive, forceful.

Nobody who knows me would use the word "impulsive" to describe me. Nor did I become more impulsive when I had long hair as a child.

As for me, I am a man with long-hair and long-beard for two reasons: 1. I consider them a gift from God; and 2. God told me to leave the hair alone (for now anyway).

So why have you referred to Scripture and said that having short hair, for women, is a sin when Scripture says that it is disgraceful for a man to have long hair, 1 Corinthians 11:14?
Either the Scripture doesn't apply or it does but you believe God has told you to go against the Scripture (impossible.)

You're justifying your own preference for long hair and a long beard, but pointing the finger and criticising women who have short hair - which apparently you don't like.

 

[Strong in Him]

This another thing I observed: short hair is usually accompanied by necklaces, earrings, and the like.

Nonsense.

 

[Strong in Him]

Style is an exaggeration. Both the beard and hair are placed in a ponytail, because according to the scripture, I am not allowed to adorn it in any way.

According to Scripture, long hair on a man is a disgrace.
That is, if you insist on imposing 1st century culture onto 21st century life.

 

[timewerx]

According to Scripture, long hair on a man is a disgrace.
That is, if you insist on imposing 1st century culture onto 21st century life.

It's called "double standard" and the scriptures have a very ugly word for it.

Definitely wrecks the OP's argument.

 

[rockytopva]

If you are looking at a woman's hair to judge her spirituality you have got a lot to learn!

 

[prudent_commenter]

According to Scripture, long hair on a man is a disgrace.
That is, if you insist on imposing 1st century culture onto 21st century life.

I have verified this a while back as I needed to be sure.

According to the Etymological Dictionary Of Greek. The translation would be well-groomed hair, rather than simply long-hair. pp. 395, from here Etymological Dictionary Of Greek : R. B. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I highly doubt God would encourage me to sin. After all, Orthodox priests have long-hair, and long-beards, being a symbol of faith and knowledge. And for your information, I did not do it based on whims or wishes. I was told, and saw it through.

 

[prudent_commenter]

Nonsense.

When things such as metals and gems are produced, their intent is to show them off. Long hair prohibits their showcasing. It wouldn't make sense to wear something of value, hidden under another thing.

 

[prudent_commenter]

I've had short hair nearly all my life - it has nothing to do with my nature.

Women's hair grows at a much higher pace than men's.

Such as?

Behavioral changes.

Many women prefer short hair.

Because they want to take care of it. It's a chore.

Some women change their appearance after a divorce - which may be about wanting to look good, regain confidence or because their husband was controlling, told them what to do and wouldn't let them think for themselves.

Typically, whatever bad decision a woman takes, society blames it on men. It's part of the current times, of which I loathe.

This is my point. A change never comes out of the blue, it stems from something. By the Word of God, the woman was created second, and was intended as a helper for man. The hierarchy formed is God>man>woman. Which would imply, one listens to the other. This controlling and think-for-your-self are constructs of society. It was due to this, promiscuity rose, homosexuality rose, and every other thing. When you think for yourself, you have to be sure from whom that thinking comes.

Really? You've asked them all?

Men of faith love whatever nature provided. This is a fact.

What "agendas"?

Stop procreating, fight each other, and get tangled in worldly things?

Typically, all agendas are against the scripture, so they are easily distinguishable.

Nonsense.

With short hair, and dressed "unisex", can you tell the difference between a man and a woman? The first thing your eye look at is the face. How about from the back?

Not even close.

Being a woman requires work. Easiness is not one of them. Look the curses brought upon them.

Yes, it does.
Wash hair, go - end of. No conditioner, hair spray, styling wax, clips, bows etc.
Yes, I also have mine coloured (pink) which takes an hour in a salon every few months, but that's it.

My experience is the opposite. I did nothing with short, as I do nothing with long. And longer is much easier.

Matter of opinion and personal taste.

I don't think so.

Nonsense.

The eyes are always directed to the largest thing before them. Something nears something small, makes the smaller thing look invisible.

You've linked it incorrectly.

I witnessed it. More than once.

Yes.
Nothing to do with length of hair. Everyone is born with short hair, or none at all.

But it grows differently based on gender. This should be a clue.

Nobody who knows me would use the word "impulsive" to describe me. Nor did I become more impulsive when I had long hair as a child.

This is what I have observed from virginity. When you lose it early in life, you are not capable of comparing what is before the loss, and after. It is only when you had it long enough that you can see. Similar to this: if you had short hair from childhood, you have nothing to compare it with. You need years to see a difference, and others too.

So why have you referred to Scripture and said that having short hair, for women, is a sin when Scripture says that it is disgraceful for a man to have long hair, 1 Corinthians 11:14?
Either the Scripture doesn't apply or it does but you believe God has told you to go against the Scripture (impossible.)

You're justifying your own preference for long hair and a long beard, but pointing the finger and criticising women who have short hair - which apparently you don't like.

I have because God told to leave it alone. It wasn't exactly my choice. And the greek word would be well-groomed, as explained in the other reply. I also said that monks, men of faith, and priests have long-hair and beards, but they are not groomed.

Of course it's impossible. Which I why I double-checked it.

 

[prudent_commenter]

If you are looking at a woman's hair to judge her spirituality you have got a lot to learn!

No. It's not the hair I look for. Opening divorces, disrespecting their husbands, ignoring God's Word, exposing themselves, and more. This is what I look for. Radical changes against the scripture. And most of what women are doing today is against it.

 

[prudent_commenter]

It's called "double standard" and the scriptures have a very ugly word for it.

Definitely wrecks the OP's argument.

Double standard? This is what women when they dislike something.

When I tell women that I can only be with a virgin. Do you know their first reply, the very first thing that pops in their minds? "If men have such expectations, then they themselves should be virgins". As a means to tear down men of faith. They actually believe I'm some kind of hypocrite when I look for such things. This, and others. This is the difference between faith, and society. In faith, you can only ask for what you already have, or what you have or currently do.

I think the world is made such that it shames everyone, even when they have not committed certain things disallowed by the Word.

Read my other replies on 1 Cor 11:14.