French President Macron Files Lawsuit Against Candace Owens for Repeatedly Claiming His Wife Is a Man

[GoldenBoy89]

I just said I was wondering. It's not like it's President Obama's wife where it's SO totally obvious.

Personally, I think I’d rather marry a trans woman than an escort but that’s just me.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

That's part of why it's hard to take you guys seriously on the subject of trans people. So confident that you know what makes a man or a woman, and yet you whiff hard on this one.

Doesn't that cut both ways a bit with Macron's situation (in terms of being taken seriously)? lol

If someone being a Trans woman is "no big deal", and "there's no difference between Trans women and Cis women", and in fact, it's something that's empowering and to be celebrated...

Then why would someone be so offended at the claim his wife is a trans woman that it would cause a lawsuit?


Me: "Pineapple on pizza is just fine, in fact we should celebrate those kinds of differences, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it"
Podcaster: "When I saw this footage of Rob at a pizza shop, I'm pretty sure that looks like pineapple on his pizza, seems like he enjoys pineapple pizza"
Me: "How dare you say such a terrible thing about me! Defamation! Libel! Clutch the pearls! I'm going to sue you!"


Would that seem consistent?


Nobody who claims to be a trans ally should be offended by premise of a cis woman getting confused for a trans woman...because they're the exact same thing and there's nothing wrong it... correct?

It shouldn't be viewed as a bigger deal than if someone incorrectly thought she was a natural redhead who was dying her hair blonde if we're to believe the rhetoric of the allies.

Seems like Macron's unconscious and implicit biases are showing...

 

[BCP1928]

Doesn't that cut both ways a bit with Macron's situation (in terms of being taken seriously)? lol

If someone being a Trans woman is "no big deal", and "there's no difference between Trans women and Cis women", and in fact, it's something that's empowering and to be celebrated...

Then why would someone be so offended at the claim his wife is a trans woman that it would cause a lawsuit?


Me: "Pineapple on pizza is just fine, in fact we should celebrate those kinds of differences, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it"
Podcaster: "When I saw this footage of Rob at a pizza shop, I'm pretty sure that looks like pineapple on his pizza, seems like he enjoys pineapple pizza"
Me: "How dare you say such a terrible thing about me! Defamation! Libel! Clutch the pearls! I'm going to sue you!"


Would that seem consistent?


Nobody who claims to be a trans ally should be offended by premise of a cis woman getting confused for a trans woman...because they're the exact same thing and there's nothing wrong it... correct?

It shouldn't be viewed as a bigger deal than if someone incorrectly thought she was a natural redhead who was dying her hair blonde if we're to believe the rhetoric of the allies.

Seems like Macron's unconscious and implicit biases are showing...

An insult is an insult. If I called you a Boy Scout the context would make it clear that I was intending an insult which you might resent even if you approved of Scouting.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

An insult is an insult. If I called you a Boy Scout the context would make it clear that I was intending an insult which you might resent even if you approved of Scouting.

That wouldn't be considered defamatory since its a non-specific figure of speech.

Same way if I said "What's up chief!", common colloquialisms don't hold up as defamatory.


Let's be real here....

If someone accused a Browns fan of being a Steelers fan publicly, despite it not being true, nobody would be so offended by the premise that they'd actually hire lawyers.

The fact that Macron and his Wife were so offended by the premise that his wife is Trans that they're going to file lawsuits, shows that they view it as an insult or "a bad thing".

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Doesn't that cut both ways a bit with Macron's situation (in terms of being taken seriously)? lol

If someone being a Trans woman is "no big deal", and "there's no difference between Trans women and Cis women", and in fact, it's something that's empowering and to be celebrated...

Then why would someone be so offended at the claim his wife is a trans woman that it would cause a lawsuit?


Me: "Pineapple on pizza is just fine, in fact we should celebrate those kinds of differences, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it"
Podcaster: "When I saw this footage of Rob at a pizza shop, I'm pretty sure that looks like pineapple on his pizza, seems like he enjoys pineapple pizza"
Me: "How dare you say such a terrible thing about me! Defamation! Libel! Clutch the pearls! I'm going to sue you!"


Would that seem consistent?


Nobody who claims to be a trans ally should be offended by premise of a cis woman getting confused for a trans woman...because they're the exact same thing and there's nothing wrong it... correct?

It shouldn't be viewed as a bigger deal than if someone incorrectly thought she was a natural redhead who was dying her hair blonde if we're to believe the rhetoric of the allies.

Seems like Macron's unconscious and implicit biases are showing...

There’s nothing wrong or degrading about being a woman but I’m sure you’d take exception if someone insisted on spreading rumors that you used to be one. Especially if this person has a very large platform and is making lots of money off of the lies they are spreading about you.

 

[Chesterton]

I'm confused. The OP and the linked article says Candace has been saying Marcon's wife's a man. Now people here are talking about trans people and trans women. Candace said nothing about trans. What's the difference between a man and a trans woman?

 

[Chesterton]

Personally, I think I’d rather marry a trans woman than an escort but that’s just me.

To each his own.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

There’s nothing wrong or degrading about being a woman but I’m sure you’d take exception if someone insisted on spreading rumors that you used to be one. Especially if this person has a very large platform and is making lots of money off of the lies they are spreading about you.

A) By the left's own rules, there's no such thing as "used to be a woman", if I were a trans-man, that would mean that I was always a man, and was simply born in the wrong body

B) If I did express an objection to it, it would be because I believe there are differences between Cis and Trans, and believe there is political baggage that is associated with the subject that makes the latter "less than", correct?

Can't have it both ways here.

If a person went on record as saying "I think being Italian is something that should be celebrated" and I said "I think that person's Italian" and they threatened to sue me, that would call that person's authenticity into question.


But, no matter how you slice it...

If I threaten to sue you for calling me an "XYZ", that means I have some sort of bias against "XYZ"...because if I saw "XYZ" as a good thing or even a neutral thing, I wouldn't be offended by it in the slightest and would chalk it up to a trivial inaccuracy.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

A) By the left's own rules

This has nothing to do with “the left”. This is the French president and his wife filing a lawsuit because apparently, they don’t like being harassed by a second rate professional troll making her money off unfounded rumors and accusations about them.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

This has nothing to do with “the left”. This is the French president and his wife filing a lawsuit because apparently, they don’t like being harassed by a second rate professional troll making her money off unfounded rumors and accusations about them.

why is someone thinking someone else's wife is trans "harassing"? (any more than any other trivial inaccuracy -- unless they view that inaccuracy as "not so trivial" for some reason?)

 

[GoldenBoy89]

why is someone thinking someone else's wife is trans "harassing"?

Idk. You’d have to ask the person filing the lawsuit over it.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Idk. You’d have to ask the person filing the lawsuit over it.

Clearly they think that "trans" is less than, or something insulting...

I certainly wouldn't try to sue someone of calling me something that I thought was a "good thing", or something that I thought was insignificant. (even if it were inaccurate)

"Rob's a math expert" or "Rob likes salad" isn't something I'm going to call up the lawyer for.

 

[jacks]

"French President Macron Files Lawsuit Against Candace Owens for Repeatedly Claiming His Wife Is a Man"

I remember when you would only get headlines like this in the National Enquirer.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Clearly they think that "trans" is less than, or something insulting...

Maybe they just personally don’t like Candace. They certainly wouldn’t be alone in that sentiment.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Let's be real here....

Indeed.

If someone accused a Browns fan of being a Steelers fan publicly, despite it not being true, nobody would be so offended by the premise that they'd actually hire lawyers.

As if anyone cares about the AFC.

If you want us to take your examples seriously, Rob, you need to pick something more compelling.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

If you want us to take your examples seriously, Rob, you need to pick something more compelling.

What did you have in mind?

What comparison is there for this one?

Politicians claimed to be "pro-Trans", and suggested there's nothing wrong with it, and Trans women shouldn't be viewed any differently than Cis women, but then threatened to sue because someone said they thought their wife was Trans.

By their own rules, suggesting that Macron's wife is a Trans woman shouldn't be considered any more "insulting/harmful" than suggesting that she's a Cis woman.


Perhaps a comparable analogy would be a politician who claimed to be all about racial inclusivity, but then flew off the handle at rumors that their daughter was dating a Black guy or something?

 

[Hans Blaster]

What did you have in mind?

A proper NFC reference.

 

[Chesterton]

As if anyone cares about the AFC.

Finally, something we agree on.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

A proper NFC reference.

You're outta luck on that one...I don't follow football, the only reason I know about Browns/Steelers grudges is because of some friends and family members.

 

[Chesterton]

What did you have in mind?

What comparison is there for this one?

Politicians claimed to be "pro-Trans", and suggested there's nothing wrong with it, and Trans women shouldn't be viewed any differently than Cis women, but then threatened to sue because someone said they thought their wife was Trans.

By their own rules, suggesting that Macron's wife is a Trans woman shouldn't be considered any more "insulting/harmful" than suggesting that she's a Cis woman.


Perhaps a comparable analogy would be a politician who claimed to be all about racial inclusivity, but then flew off the handle at rumors that their daughter was dating a Black guy or something?

I think this is a record. I think it's my 4th Norm posting in a week. "Yeah I know."