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It's true.

Trump and all of his supporters are the only ones with the answers.

We outsiders can't be trusted because our well is poisoned.

Only Trump and your news sources are to be believed.

Our constant questioning of trumps narrative is confusing, offensive and makes us untrustworthy.

And when former trump supporters or officials question him, the appropriate thing to do is assissinate their character too. They ALWAYS were untrustworthy miscreants.

We know how cruel and terrible the outside world is because of people like us. Everyone who doesnt agree with trump is coming to hurt your children and make them gay.

Nobody was safe but now that Trump is in control and he is booting out all the illegal immigrants America will finally be safe. And the trans movement will stop poisoning your children thanks to trump and trump alone. So that means you're children will also finally be safe.

And trump doesn not try to emotionally manipulate his followers.
Never.
That isn't how he works. He 1000% cares about you. As an individual person. He knows you so well because you're an American and you want thr same thing he wants.

This is a HEALTHY political outlook. This approach to society is going to fix America and in no way does it resemble anything of concern.

It's a unique time In history where nobody has ever been as right about the world as trump.
Unlike the majority of liberals in the mainstream media and the Democratic Party, conservatives have been telling the truth for many, many years.
 
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Not really. The biggest reason Fox is highest rated is the lack of competition for their brand of propaganda. Democrats have so many choices while Republicans are stuck with Fox News.
Are you denying the fact that the ratings and viewership of the liberal mainstream media are plummeting as compared to what they were when Obama was president?
 
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That, and the fact that Dems tend to skew more towards print while Republicans like tv.
Mainstream liberal print media is also losing readership as compared to a couple of decades ago.
 
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That, and the fact that Dems tend to skew more towards print while Republicans like tv.
Also boomers are more likely to still be watching tv of any kind vs the younger generations who are mostly always online.
 
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Unlike the majority of liberals in the mainstream media and the Democratic Party, conservatives have been telling the truth for many, many years.
Can I just say, and this is totally unrelated to the thread but, thanks for using the correct name of the Democratic Party instead of the oft used and super annoying “democrat party” I see so much from the right.
 
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Are you denying the fact that the ratings and viewership of the liberal mainstream media are plummeting as compared to what they were when Obama was president?
I didn't say that. I just explained why Fox has the most viewers.
 
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Unlike the majority of liberals in the mainstream media and the Democratic Party, conservatives have been telling the truth for many, many years.
Oh, like how the 2020 election was stolen?
 
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Oh, like how the 2020 election was stolen?
Like how Biden was as sharp as a tack and fit as a fiddle? Oh wait, that was the lie that the Democratic Party and liberal media wanted you to believe.
 
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Like how Biden was as sharp as a tack and fit as a fiddle? Oh wait, that was the lie that the Democratic Party and liberal media wanted you to believe.
How is that a rebuttal?
 
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Did any reputable Democrats—or mainstream journalists—ever allege that Russian cyberwarfare targeting the 2016 U.S. election included actual vote-rigging?

Absolutely. The phrase "Russia hacked our elections" was repeated ad nauseam by democrats and media outlets alike. Top Democrats, all the way up to Hillary Clinton, were running around talking about how Trump "stole" the election and that Trump was an illegitimate president, and tying that directly to Russia.

At the risk of being called "petty", here is a compilation of reputable Democrats and mainstream journalists talking about how Trump stole the election and how Russia "hacked" the election.

 
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Absolutely. The phrase "Russia hacked our elections" was repeated ad nauseam by democrats and media outlets alike. Top Democrats, all the way up to Hillary Clinton, were running around talking about how Trump "stole" the election and that Trump was an illegitimate president, and tying that directly to Russia.

At the risk of being called "petty", here is a compilation of reputable Democrats and mainstream journalists talking about how Trump stole the election and how Russia "hacked" the election.


That isn't what I asked.
 
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No, there are not links to them individually. What is at the bottom of that page is the link that I pointed to.

Yes, direct links to the content. I started with the press release, which then linked to both the memo and the supporting documents. I actually read the press release, the memo, and skimmed the 100 pages of documents. You know, reading and parsing the source information for myself like you suggested.
 
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That isn't what I asked.

Yes it is.

What do you think "Russia hacked our elections", 'The election was stolen", and "Trump is an illegitimate President" means? What were they trying to convey?
 
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Yes it is.

What do you think "Russia hacked our elections", 'The election was stolen", and "Trump is an illegitimate President" means? What were they trying to convey?

The question was:

Did any reputable Democrats—or mainstream journalists—ever allege that Russian cyberwarfare targeting the 2016 U.S. election included actual vote-rigging?
 
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The question was:

Did any reputable Democrats—or mainstream journalists—ever allege that Russian cyberwarfare targeting the 2016 U.S. election included actual vote-rigging?

Again, what do think all of these people meant when they said "Russia hacked our election", and that the election was "stolen"? How do you suppose they were saying that Russia "hacked" the election if not through actual vote-rigging? At the 0:58 mark in the video above, Hillary Clinton calls this a "kind of cyber 9/11". I mean, what do you think she is referring to?
 
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Again, what do think all of these people meant when they said "Russia hacked our election", and that the election was "stolen"? How do you suppose they were saying that Russia "hacked" the election if not through actual vote-rigging?

You would have to ask them.

The point is, the press reports cited by Gabbard did not state Russia was involved in actual vote-rigging or Russia manipulating voting machines. Indeeed, it was the consensus of the Intel. community that Russia did not have such a capability. Yes, cyberattacks were a concern, but state's voting systems were not exposed to the internet. Yet, Gabbard deceptively implies Obama sought to contradict this finding by ordering a new assessment of Russia's interference in our elections.
 
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You would have to ask them.

The point is, the press reports cited by Gabbard did not state Russia was involved in actual vote-rigging or Russia manipulating voting machines. Indeeed, it was the consensus of the Intel. community that Russia did not have such a capability. Yes, cyberattacks were a concern, but state's voting systems were not exposed to the internet. Yet, Gabbard deceptively implies Obama sought to contradict this finding by ordering a new assessment of Russia's interference in our elections.

The propaganda "Russia hacked our elections" and "the election was stolen" was pushed relentlessly by top Democrats, up to and including Hillary Clinton, and media outlets to cause people to question the election results. That's why, had you watched the video, you would have seen that despite no credible evidence, 67% of Democrats believed that Russia tampered with vote tallies.

I don't know why you're pretending like the purpose of running around incessantly proclaiming that "RUSSIA HACKED OUR ELECTIONS!!!!!!" wasn't to get people to believe that votes had been tampered with. That was exactly the point.

And it worked. Look at the data: "Russia tampered with vote tallies in order to get Donald Trump elected President". 31% of Democrats said that statement was "Definitely true" while another 36% said it "Probably true".

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