Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Apple Sky]

WOW - Thanks for these, that's certainly proved me wrong.

 

[Apple Sky]

no, electromagnetism cannot be seen.

But the effects can be.

While most of this energy is invisible to us, we can see the range of wavelengths that we call light. This visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum consists of the colors that we see in a rainbow – red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet.

Lightning is a powerful display of electromagnetism. It occurs when a large electrical charge builds up within a cloud or between a cloud and the ground, and then discharges rapidly, creating a visible flash and thunder. This discharge involves the movement of electric charges,

The sun is a source of electromagnetism. It emits electromagnetic radiation across a wide spectrum, including visible light, infrared, ultraviolet, X-rays, and radio waves. This electromagnetic radiation is a fundamental part of the sun's energy output, and it's also responsible for phenomena like solar flares and the solar wind.

 

[David Lamb]

Never seen water curve.

Probably because you have never viewed the earth with its seas from space.

 

[Apple Sky]

Probably because you have never viewed the earth with its seas from space.

The images from supposed space are mostly taken with a fish eyed lens which makes every thing look curved either that or they are CGI.

images of earth from space - Google Search

 

[Strong in Him]

God needs us to know the truth.

Why?

 

[prodromos]

But the effects can be.

Just like gravity.

 

[David Lamb]

The images from supposed space are mostly taken with a fish eyed lens which makes every thing look curved either that or they are CGI.

You've said that several times before. I assume you have proof of what you claim, that they are "mostly taken with a fish eyed lens which makes every thing look curved either that or they are CGI." I notice that this time, your claim is about "most of them", not all of them. So what about the ones that even you don't claim were taken with distorting lenses or manipulated with CGI?

 

[Strong in Him]

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So yes people do not believe God, so if you want to live in your little fantasy world you can.

Yes, and many thousands of others DO believe God - and what's more give his word the respect it deserves by learning to interpret it correctly.
Saying, "the Bible says X therefore that is literally what God says" and dismissing all those who don't accept your view as "not trusting God", is not only false and underhand but is the behaviour I would expect from cult leaders.

Where are the exact words, "I, the Lord, am telling you that I created the world to be flat - and I command that you believe it." Or, "this is what the Lord says, 'you must believe that the earth is flat; it's very important and it is my will that you believe it' "?
Because if those words, or commands, aren't there, then there's no case to answer.

 

[Apple Sky]

Just like gravity.

Yes - I suppose in a way.

 

[Apple Sky]

You've said that several times before. I assume you have proof of what you claim

Yes - They are either painted or CGI.

Robert Simmon - AKA Mr. Blue Marble - NASA

Data Visualizer and Designer Robert Simmon never thought that he would become "Mr. Blue Marble."

www.nasa.gov

 

[David Lamb]

Yes - They are either painted or CGI.

Robert Simmon - AKA Mr. Blue Marble - NASA

Data Visualizer and Designer Robert Simmon never thought that he would become "Mr. Blue Marble."

www.nasa.gov

But posting a link doesn't prove that they are fake photos. I could if I wanted post plenty of links to sites that say they are genuine photographs, and we could ping-pong links back and forth to each other. That isn't proof.

 

[Apple Sky]

Why?

Why wouldn't he ?

 

[Apple Sky]

But posting a link doesn't prove that they are fake photos. I could if I wanted post plenty of links to sites that say they are genuine photographs, and we could ping-pong links back and forth to each other. That isn't proof.

What proof do you want ?

 

[David Lamb]

What proof do you want ?

Something that proves without a doubt that your claim is true, and that most of the photos that purport to have been taken of the earth from space were faked in some way. If you don't have such proof, then it would be better to word your posts differently, such as, "I believe that most of the photos that are claimed to show the earth from space were produced by CGI or with fisheye lenses."

 

[Strong in Him]

Why wouldn't he ?

No, you said that God needs us to know the truth. In this context, you clearly mean "the truth about the shape of the earth".
So, why does he NEED us to know it?
It has nothing to do with salvation, trusting in Jesus, receiving eternal life, being filled with his Spirit or serving him so why is it so vitally important to God that we believe the world/earth to be a certain shape?

 

[Apple Sky]

No, you said that God needs us to know the truth. In this context, you clearly mean "the truth about the shape of the earth".
So, why does he NEED us to know it?

So we don't get deceived as we are being.

 

[David Lamb]

So we don't get deceived as we are being.

But as Strong in Him has said many times, suppose we are deceived about the shape of the earth. Suppose I believed it was triangular. What difference would it make to my salvation? Absolutely none. My salvation depends entirely on the Lord Jesus Christ, my glorious Saviour. I am sure yours does too. Our salvation is not affected in the slightest by our beliefs about the shape of the earth. Nowhere do we read, "Believe that the earth is flat and you will be saved," or "Believe that the astronauts who say they have been to the moon are liars and you will be saved," or "Believe that Antarctica is surround by an ice wall hundreds of feet high and you will be saved."

 

[Strong in Him]

So we don't get deceived as we are being.

Deceived about what?
Jesus? Salvation? His love? The Holy Spirit? The Gospel?
If we believe all these things and believe that the earth is a globe, how are we better/worse off than if we believe all these things but believe the earth to be flat?
If the shape of the earth is SO important, why didn't the prophets, Jesus and Paul teach it?
Why didn't God tell Adam and Eve what shape the earth was; would that have helped them to resist the serpent's temptation?
Why didn't God say, "all the sin in the world, the violence, murder, rape, drug peddling etc are not your fault; you just don't know the truth about the shape that I made the world."?
Why didn't Paul say, "nothing can separate us from the love of God - except believing that he made the earth to be a certain shape. "

 

[Apple Sky]

But as Strong in Him has said many times, suppose we are deceived about the shape of the earth. Suppose I believed it was triangular. What difference would it make to my salvation? Absolutely none. My salvation depends entirely on the Lord Jesus Christ, my glorious Saviour. I am sure yours does too. Our salvation is not affected in the slightest by our beliefs about the shape of the earth.

I agree.

Nowhere do we read, "Believe that the earth is flat and you will be saved," or "Believe that the astronauts who say they have been to the moon are liars and you will be saved," or "Believe that Antarctica is surround by an ice wall hundreds of feet high and you will be saved."

I agree, but not everyone is a Christian & are being greatly deceived.

 

[Strong in Him]

I agree, but not everyone is a Christian & are being greatly deceived.

They are being deceived if they think they will get to heaven by doing good works.
They are being deceived if they believe that the "little" things that they do wrong don't matter and it is not a sin if they don't believe in God.
They are being deceived if they think they can treat God how they like in this life, and yet they will still be in heaven with him forever.
They are being deceived if they think that they can be saved apart from Jesus.

I have never heard of a non Christian changing their mind about sin, God, Jesus and the Bible because they have been told that the earth is flat and not a globe. No one says, "nah, I'm not a sinner, I don't need God and Jesus was just a good man. Oh, is the earth flat? Oh, I must be a sinner after all, and yes, of course Jesus was/is God."