WHY WATER BAPTISM WILL DISAPPEAR AND THEN REAPPEAR !!

[Hoping2]

And BAPTISM / BAPTISO is not a blessing to me as BAPTISM / BAPTIZO has been taken AWAY as LUKE wrote in

Acts 28: 25-28 and in 2 Cor 3:13--16 and in Acts 1:5

And in MARK 16 :16 Mark has this to write !

# 1 He that , BELIEVETH / PISTEUO , is in the Aorist Tense , Active Voice , in the Nominative Case , is a PARTICIPLE Tense

in Singular .

# 2 IS BAPTIZED / BAPTISO , in the Aorist tense , in the Passive Voice , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 3 SHALL BE SAVED / SOZO , is in the Greek , Future Tense , in the Passive Voice , Indicative Mood , in the

Indicative Mood , in the Singular

# 4 HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT // APISTEO , is in the Aorist Tense , Active Voice , is a Participle Tense

in the Nominative Case , in the Signular

# 5 , SHALL BE DAMNED / KATARINO , is in The GREEK , Future Tense , Passive Voice , in the Indicative Mood ,

in the Singular .

# 6 And these that were BAPTIZED in Mark 16:16-18 , Speak in new Tongues

# 7 , Take up Sepents

# 8 Drink any Deadly thing

# 9 , Lay hands on the Sick and they SHALL RECOVER

And have YET to see that kind of BAPTISM , have you ??

dan p

I am surprised that you would print out the words that make your own position untenable.
I have received the results of my obedience to the Lord's command to be baptized (in His name for the remission of past sins).

 

[Dan Perez]

I am surprised that you would print out the words that make your own position untenable.
I have received the results of my obedience to the Lord's command to be baptized (in His name for the remission of past sins).

And I 99% do print the words and the Greek words , and also give what the Tenses , Cases , and Moods are

and all can GOOGLE them and know what they mean !

And you said I have received the results of my obediencem to the Lord's command to be Baptized and are you SURE it

was NOT , BAPTISMO or BAPTISMA or BAPTO or maybe BAPTISTES or maybe SPRINKING , since you did not

give a verse , in his name for the REMISSION of past sins !!!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And I 99% do print the words and the Greek words , and also give what the Tenses , Cases , and Moods are
and all can GOOGLE them and know what they mean !

I don't trust my salvation to the interpretations of the unproven.
Your Greek interludes are just an annoyance to me.

And you said I have received the results of my obediencem to the Lord's command to be Baptized and are you SURE it was NOT , BAPTISMO or BAPTISMA or BAPTO or maybe BAPTISTES or maybe SPRINKING , since you did not
give a verse , in his name for the REMISSION of past sins !!!
dan p

My "immersion", in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, was done with water.
Peter commanded it in Acts 2:38, before the apostles were even aware of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
So there is no sensible questioning that any baptism done back then was with anything but water.
Just like the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized in Acts 8.
BTW, sprinkling is not "immersion".

 

[Dan Perez]

I don't trust my salvation to the interpretations of the unproven.
Your Greek interludes are just an annoyance to me.

My "immersion", in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, was done with water.
Peter commanded it in Acts 2:38, before the apostles were even aware of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
So there is no sensible questioning that any baptism done back then was with anything but water.
Just like the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized in Acts 8.
BTW, sprinkling is not "immersion".

A nd you believe the Word , IMMERSION and it is Not a Greek word in the Bible ??

And in Acts 19:3 John , and he said to them , For what reason then were you BAPTIZED / B APTIZO , and the ones

said into the BAPTISMA OF John .

SO what does BAPTISMA then MEAN and if you check the Greek text it is there just aski ng to check , is all ?

And HAD to do what ALL should do and I had a lot of LEARDING to do in 40 years and that was a long time ago !


And the Greek word WATER / HYDOR is NOT in the Greek Text , and are the words JESUS CHRIST , THERE and

are you sure ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

nd you believe the Word , IMMERSION and it is Not a Greek word in the Bible ??

And in Acts 19:3 John , and he said to them , For what reason then were you BAPTIZED / B APTIZO , and the ones said into the BAPTISMA OF John .

SO what does BAPTISMA then MEAN and if you check the Greek text it is there just aski ng to check , is all ?

And HAD to do what ALL should do and I had a lot of LEARDING to do in 40 years and that was a long time ago !


And the Greek word WATER / HYDOR is NOT in the Greek Text , and are the words JESUS CHRIST , THERE and

are you sure ??

dan p

The particulars of the word "baptize", depend on the context of its use.
For "immersion" into Christ, (Rom 6:3), or crucifixion with Christ, (Gal 5:24), or the destruction of the old man, (Rom 6:6), or the circumcision done without hands, (Col 2:11-12), or suffering with Christ, (1 Peter 4:1), water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins is necessary.
Mentions of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, (which is a gift from God predicated on our turn from sin, Acts 2:38, Acts 101:17) do not involve water.
The baptism of fire, (Matt 3:11), does not refer to water.

 

[Dan Perez]

The particulars of the word "baptize", depend on the context of its use.
For "immersion" into Christ, (Rom 6:3), or crucifixion with Christ, (Gal 5:24), or the destruction of the old man, (Rom 6:6), or the circumcision done without hands, (Col 2:11-12), or suffering with Christ, (1 Peter 4:1), water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins is necessary.
Mentions of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, (which is a gift from God predicated on our turn from sin, Acts 2:38, Acts 101:17) do not involve water.
The baptism of fire, (Matt 3:11), does not refer to water.

But Rom 6:3 and it says in the KJV , Or are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED / BAPTIZO , into

Christ Jesus were BAPTIZED into His Death ,

The Greek text says BAPTIZED into His Death , SO can that happen and you have NOT said how that happens and there

is and answer , and just asking and if you feel that are such , fine , as I do not want to CACOPHONOUS !

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

But Rom 6:3 and it says in the KJV , Or are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED / BAPTIZO , into

Christ Jesus were BAPTIZED into His Death ,

The Greek text says BAPTIZED into His Death , SO can that happen and you have NOT said how that happens and there

is and answer , and just asking and if you feel that are such , fine , as I do not want to CACOPHONOUS !

dan p

Romans 6's baptism into Jesus; and into His death, burial, and resurrection; happen at water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

 

[Dan Perez]

And I say that in Rom 6:3 , that WATER / HYDOR , is NOT there , and you say , YES , OK !

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And I say that in Rom 6:3 , that WATER / HYDOR , is NOT there , and you say , YES , OK !

dan p

You are correct, it is not there.
Neither are the words Spirit, or fire ! (Luke 3:16)

 

[Dan Perez]

You are correct, it is not there.
Neither are the words Spirit, or fire ! (Luke 3:16)

And how was anyone BAPTIZED / BAPTIZO , into Christ JESUS ???????

As in 1 Cor 10 :2 , How were all BAPTIZED / BAPTIZO , unto Moses , AND in the Cloud and in the SEA ?

And the Greek word WATER /HYDOR is not in the Greek text !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And how was anyone BAPTIZED / BAPTIZO , into Christ JESUS ???????

Those baptized into Christ were baptized with water.
Just like the Ethiopian eunuch was..."And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?" (Acts 8:36)

As in 1 Cor 10 :2 , How were all BAPTIZED / BAPTIZO , unto Moses , AND in the Cloud and in the SEA ?

Those folks were baptized into Moses and the sea by their immersion into all that Moses participated in.

And the Greek word WATER /HYDOR is not in the Greek text !!
dan p

So what ?
Spirit and fire are also not mentioned, and those are also baptisms.

 

[Dan Perez]

The word "baptism" is in the bible 22 more times, after Matt 3.
Water doesn't need to be mentioned, as it is tacit (implied).

Let me ask you this, please...If water baptism is not necessary, how is the "old man" destroyed without it ? (Rom 6:3-6)

And one verse is in Rom 6:6 .

And the Greek word Baptism / Baptisma is used 22 Times from. Matt 3:7 through 1 Peter 3:21 .
Everyone needs Vine's Greek dictionary to check Greek words .
And by the way there more than One. Greek word for Baptism .
By the way the Greek word Baptisma is used in Rom 6:4. !
dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

Those baptized into Christ were baptized with water.
Just like the Ethiopian eunuch was..."And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?" (Acts 8:36)

Those folks were baptized into Moses and the sea by their immersion into all that Moses participated in.

So what ?
Spirit and fire are also not mentioned, and those are also baptisms.

But I do not a Greek word called Immersion and you have a no-answer on 1 Cor 10:2 , and what the Cloud and the Sea
represent ?
dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And one verse is in Rom 6:6 .

And the Greek word Baptism / Baptisma is used 22 Times from. Matt 3:7 through 1 Peter 3:21 .
Everyone needs Vine's Greek dictionary to check Greek words .
And by the way there more than One. Greek word for Baptism .
By the way the Greek word Baptisma is used in Rom 6:4. !
dan p

You didn't answer my question.
How is the old man destroyed, without baptism ?

 

[Hoping2]

But I do not a Greek word called Immersion...

"do not" what ?

... and you have a no-answer on 1 Cor 10:2 , and what the Cloud and the Sea
represent ?
dan p

I've answered all your questions.
Answer mine.

 

[Dan Perez]

The particulars of the word "baptize", depend on the context of its use.
For "immersion" into Christ, (Rom 6:3), or crucifixion with Christ, (Gal 5:24), or the destruction of the old man, (Rom 6:6), or the circumcision done without hands, (Col 2:11-12), or suffering with Christ, (1 Peter 4:1), water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins is necessary.
Mentions of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, (which is a gift from God predicated on our turn from sin, Acts 2:38, Acts 101:17) do not involve water.
The baptism of fire, (Matt 3:11), does not refer to water.

And Matt 3:11 and does not refer to Water /. Hydor. and Fire means Judgment .

And in Matt 3:7 But when he. saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his BAPTISMA / BAPTISM. , notice. the Greek

word BAPTISMA is in the Greek text

# 1. Then notice what John says next. in. verse 7 , O. generation ,of vipers , who hath warned you to. flee. From the wrath. to come ?

Your thoughts On What # 1. , means. ?

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

I don't trust my salvation to the interpretations of the unproven.
Your Greek interludes are just an annoyance to me.

My "immersion", in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, was done with water.
Peter commanded it in Acts 2:38, before the apostles were even aware of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
So there is no sensible questioning that any baptism done back then was with anything but water.
Just like the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized in Acts 8.
BTW, sprinkling is not "immersion".

And your thoughts on what Acts 2:38 really means ?
.dan p

 

[Fervent]

What is the point of railing against baptism? Like, what's the harm if your strange theological ideas are true?

And what's the point of talking about the Greek word when it doesn't help your case any more than the English does. Bapto/baptismo mean "immerse"...so what is the immersion by, if not water? Even where the discussion is a "baptism of the Spirit" the image is still of being dunked in water.

 

[Hoping2]

And Matt 3:11 and does not refer to Water /. Hydor. and Fire means Judgment .

That is pretty much what I just wrote.

And in Matt 3:7 But when he. saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his BAPTISMA / BAPTISM. , notice. the Greek
word BAPTISMA is in the Greek text

Did you read verse 6 ?
"And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins."
Wasn't the Jordan a river of water ?

# 1. Then notice what John says next. in. verse 7 , O. generation ,of vipers , who hath warned you to. flee. From the wrath. to come ?
Your thoughts On What # 1. , means. ?

It means that John wondered why the wicked had come to him to have their past sins washed away.

 

[Hoping2]

And your thoughts on what Acts 2:38 really means ?
.dan p

Peter's first commands to the early church, included water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ, to wash away past sins.
If done after a true repentance from sin, it would garner the gift of the Holy Ghost.
It really means exactly what is written.