WHY WATER BAPTISM WILL DISAPPEAR AND THEN REAPPEAR !!

[Hoping2]

AND it does say WATER BAPTISM , does it ??

There is no other baptism that can be done by preachers in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, other than with water.

How about this one in 1 Cor 10 ;2 And all were BAPTIZED UNTO MOSES in the CLOUD and in the SEA !
How were they BAPTIZE unto Moses , in the CLOUD and in the SEA , in WATER BAPTISM ??

All were "immersed" into the same things Moses experienced.
Baptism means immersion.
Baptism into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, is done using water.

 

[Dan Perez]

There is no other baptism that can be done by preachers in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, other than with water.

All were "immersed" into the same things Moses experienced.
Baptism means immersion.
Baptism into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, is done using water.

And in Rom 6:3 , OR are you IGNORANT . that as many as were BAPTIZED into CHRIST , were BAPTIZED

INTO HIS DEATH .

Since Christ is seating at the RIGHT SIDE OF God , how are you BAPTIZED , into , HIS DEATH ??

And have answer , BUT you WON'T believe any way , but WATER or NO WATER BAPTISM , to consider ?

dan

 

[Hoping2]

And in Rom 6:3 , OR are you IGNORANT . that as many as were BAPTIZED into CHRIST , were BAPTIZED

INTO HIS DEATH .

I think I just wrote that.
Rom 6 is my favorite chapter in the bible.

Since Christ is seating at the RIGHT SIDE OF God , how are you BAPTIZED , into , HIS DEATH ??

We are "immersed" into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Rom 6:3-5)

And have answer , BUT you WON'T believe any way , but WATER or NO WATER BAPTISM , to consider ?

Thanks be to God, I understand what is written in the bible.

 

[Dan Perez]

I think I just wrote that.
Rom 6 is my favorite chapter in the bible.

We are "immersed" into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Rom 6:3-5)

Thanks be to God, I understand what is written in the bible.

Will you explain 1 Cor 10:2 ?

And all were BAPTIZE // BAPTIZO , together UNTO , Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA >

How can the thousand of Jews be BAPTIZED into Moses , the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

It did happen and it shows That it WAS NOT WATER // HYDOR into to Moses or into the CLOUD or the SEA ??

IT just means that BAPTISM has other MEANING ??

YOUR THOUGHTS ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Will you explain 1 Cor 10:2 ?

And all were BAPTIZE // BAPTIZO , together UNTO , Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA >

How can the thousand of Jews be BAPTIZED into Moses , the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

It did happen and it shows That it WAS NOT WATER // HUDOR into to Moses or inot the CLOUD or the SEA ??

IT just means that BAPTISM has other MEANING ??

YOUR THOUGHTS ??

dan p

By a baptism into Moses and into the sea, God has shown us that they all participated in the same events.
By water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins into Christ; and into His death, burial, resurrection; we partake in all those events with Christ Jesus.

 

[Dan Perez]

There is no other baptism that can be done by preachers in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, other than with water.

All were "immersed" into the same things Moses experienced.
Baptism means immersion.
Baptism into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, is done using water.

And when you see , where it says , And all were BAPTIZED UNTO , Moses the CLOUD and in the SEA ,

and the GREEK word BAPTIZED , where the word WATER // HYDOR is not in the GREEK TEXT , you can just say it is

IMMERSION ??

If you believe it , How were the CLOUD and the SEA , IMMERSED ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And when you see , where it says , And all were BAPTIZED UNTO , Moses the CLOUD and in the SEA ,
and the GREEK word BAPTIZED , where the word WATER // HUDOR is not in the GREEK TEXT , you can just say it is
IMMERSION ??

Yes, of course.
Immersion into a set of circumstances does not need to use water for its facilitation.
Immersion onto Christ, however, does require water.

If you believe it , How were the CLOUD and the SEA , IMMERSED ??
dan p

The cloud and sea were not immersed.
The people were partakers of the cloud and sea.

 

[Dan Perez]

By a baptism into Moses and into the sea, God has shown us that they all participated in the same events.
By water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins into Christ; and into His death, burial, resurrection; we partake in all those events with Christ Jesus.

And for anyone reading this THEY were , PLACED or is an IDENTICATION , with Moses and the CLOUD REPESTENTS

Christ on a CLOUD , called the SHEKINAH GLORY and the SEA , represent HUMANITY '

And the EGYTIANS were submerge or drowned and GREEK word WATER // HYDOR is NOT IN THE GREEK TEXT ,

And belief is a CODSWALLOP ,

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And for anyone reading this THEY were , PLACED or is an IDENTICATION , with Moses and the CLOUD REPESTENTS

Christ on a CLOUD , called the SHEKINAH GLORY and the SEA , represent HUMANITY '

Yep, they were all one in their experience.
Just as we are made one with Christ, when we are water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins into Him, and into His death, burial, and resurrection. (Rom 6:3-5)

And the EGYTIANS were submerge or drowned nd GREEK word WATER // HUDOR is NOT IN THE GREEK TEXT , PERIOD .

Uh...drowned without water ?
The Red Sea wasn't water ?

 

[Dan Perez]

Yep, they were all one in their experience.
Just as we are made one with Christ, when we are water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins into Him, and into His death, burial, and resurrection. (Rom 6:3-5)

Uh...drowned without water ?
The Red Sea wasn't water ?

And in Rom 6:3 OR are you IGNORANT , that as many ( ARE YOU ONE THAT HAS ) THAT have been BAPTIZED

BAPTIZED into Christ , were BAPTIZED into HIS DEATH ??

How does that HAPPEN ??

And verse in Rom 6:5 , And if you all that belkeve in WATER BAPTISM , we have become UNITED together in the

liken of his DEATH , YET WE WILL BE ALSO OF THE RESURRECTION '
C
Which means if you are NOT BAPTIZED INTO HIS DEATH , YOU WILL NOT BE RESURRECTED ,

1 Cor 15:29 is saying , BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And in Rom 6:3 OR are you IGNORANT , that as many ( ARE YOU ONE THAT HAS ) THAT have been BAPTIZED
BAPTIZED into Christ , were BAPTIZED into HIS DEATH ??
How does that HAPPEN ??

It happens by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

And verse in Rom 6:5 , And if you all that belkeve in WATER BAPTISM , we have become UNITED together in the

liken of his DEATH , YET WE WILL BE ALSO OF THE RESURRECTION '

I see no "yet we will be".
I see that if we partake in His death and burial, we will also be partakers in His resurrection.
Col 2:12-13..."Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him,..."

Which means if you are NOT BAPTIZED INTO HIS DEATH , YOU WILL NOT BE RESURRECTED ,

That is correct.
If our old man isn't destroyed with Him, a new creature will not be raised with Him to walk in newness of life.

1 Cor 15:29 is saying , BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD !!

Yeah, I am not too sure about why Paul says that.
My first inclination, however, is that Paul is using one false doctrine (baptism for the dead) to slam another false doctrine (there is no resurrection).

 

[Dan Perez]

Yes, of course.
Immersion into a set of circumstances does not need to use water for its facilitation.
Immersion onto Christ, however, does require water.

The cloud and sea were not immersed.
The people were partakers of the cloud and sea.

And it baptized unto Moses IN the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

It does NOT say IMMERSED , it does NOT say DIPPED and does NOT , say SPRINKED and it does NOT say WASHED

it does NOT SAY WATER , remember that ANGELS are watching as is GOD !!

and you said , does not to use WATER for its FACILITATION , and must have a verwe ??

They must be having a good LAUGH , would you not say ??

dan p



dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And it baptized unto Moses IN the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

Correct.
Moses and all the Israelites experienced the same events as one.

It does NOT say IMMERSED , it does NOT say DIPPED and does NOT , say SPRINKED and it does NOT say WASHED

The "baptized" in your 1 Cor 10 citing, is the exact same word as every one of the other 61 uses of the word "baptized" in the bible.

it does NOT SAY WATER , remember that ANGELS are watching as is GOD !!

It doesn't need to.
Moses and the Israelites were not baptized with water into something.
They all endured the same events as one another.

and you said , does not to use WATER for its FACILITATION ,

Correct.
Water is only used in a baptism if it is a water baptism.

and must have a verwe ??

I can't tell what you wrote.

They must be having a good LAUGH , would you not say ??

I have no idea what you are writing about.
You seem to be locked into the idea that every use of the word "baptism" must involve water.
It doesn't.
The baptism of the Holy Ghost doesn't involve water, and the baptism of fire certainly doesn't involve water.
But baptism in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of past sins, does involve water.
As did John's baptism unto repentance from sin, also involve water.

 

[Dan Perez]

I think I just wrote that.
Rom 6 is my favorite chapter in the bible.

We are "immersed" into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Rom 6:3-5)

Thanks be to God, I understand what is written in the bible.

And the reading of Rom 6:4 and is written Therefore , we were buried together with Him through this BAPISMA which

is the Greek Text , into the DEATH !

Your thoughts as to what BAPTIMA means ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And the reading of Rom 6:4 and is written Therefore , we were buried together with Him through this BAPISMA which
is the Greek Text , into the DEATH !

"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:..." (Rom 6:4)
Water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins also "immerses" us into Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection.
We take part in what He endured.

Your thoughts as to what BAPTIMA means ??
dan p

It means..."immerse", "dip", "fully whelm".

 

[Dan Perez]

It happens by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

I see no "yet we will be".
I see that if we partake in His death and burial, we will also be partakers in His resurrection.
Col 2:12-13..."Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him,..."

That is correct.
If our old man isn't destroyed with Him, a new creature will not be raised with Him to walk in newness of life.

Yeah, I am not too sure about why Paul says that.
My first inclination, however, is that Paul is using one false doctrine (baptism for the dead) to slam another false doctrine (there is no resurrection).

And since Paul WROTE under the inspiration of HOLY SPIRIT , you are speaking like a CODSWALLOP !

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And since Paul WROTE under the inspiration of HOLY SPIRIT , you are speaking like a CODSWALLOP !

I see no correlation.

 

[Dan Perez]

I see no correlation.

AND then you guoted Col 2 :12 Having been BURIED TOGETHER with Him in the BAPTISMA and that is what the

I see no correlation.

And in Col 2:12 was written in the Greek text , SAYS , having been BURIED TOGETHER with Him in the BAPTISMA

and I will help you OUT , and in Eph 4:5 in the GREEK text says , ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE BAPTISMA !!

ONE in the GREEK text is HEIS

One LORD

One FAITH

ONE BAPTISMA and is used 23 times , beginning in Matt 3:7 and written in also in Eph 4:5 and also written

in 1 Peter 3:21 , is the Greek word BAPTISMA


and there is in Greek text the FOLLWING :


#1 BAPTISM

# 2 BAPTISTS

# 3 BAPTIZE

# 4 BAPTISTES

# 5 BAPTIZO

# 6 BAPTO

# 7 BAPTISMO

# 8 BAPTISMA

and they cannot ALL be WATER / HYDOR or all be Immersion or be submerged , or BURIED !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

AND then you guoted Col 2 :12 Having been BURIED TOGETHER with Him in the BAPTISMA and that is what the

And in Col 2:12 was written in the Greek text , SAYS , having been BURIED TOGETHER with Him in the BAPTISMA

and I will help you OUT , and in Eph 4:5 in the GREEK text says , ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE BAPTISMA !!

ONE in the GREEK text is HEIS

One LORD

One FAITH

ONE BAPTISMA and is used 23 times , beginning in Matt 3:7 and written in also in Eph 4:5 and also written

in 1 Peter 3:21 , is the Greek word BAPTISMA


and there is in Greek text the FOLLWING :


#1 BAPTISM

# 2 BAPTISTS

# 3 BAPTIZE

# 4 BAPTISTES

# 5 BAPTIZO

# 6 BAPTO

# 7 BAPTISMO

# 8 BAPTISMA

and they cannot ALL be WATER / HYDOR or all be Immersion or be submerged , or BURIED !!

dan p

Each use of the word "baptism" or, "baptize" must be read with its context in mind.
Every use of those words indicates an "immersion" of some kind.
It may be into "Christ", (Rom 6:3), or, into an experience like it does for "Moses and the sea". (1 Cor 10:2)
Either way, without a water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, there is no remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38)
There is also no crucifixion of the flesh. (Gal 5:24)
There is also no circumcision of the body of sin made, without hands. (Col 2:11)
There is no destruction of the old man. (Rom 6:6)

I pray that you are unwilling to forgo any of those blessings.

 

[Dan Perez]

Each use of the word "baptism" or, "baptize" must be read with its context in mind.
Every use of those words indicates an "immersion" of some kind.
It may be into "Christ", (Rom 6:3), or, into an experience like it does for "Moses and the sea". (1 Cor 10:2)
Either way, without a water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, there is no remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38)
There is also no crucifixion of the flesh. (Gal 5:24)
There is also no circumcision of the body of sin made, without hands. (Col 2:11)
There is no destruction of the old man. (Rom 6:6)

I pray that you are unwilling to forgo any of those blessings.

Each use of the word "baptism" or, "baptize" must be read with its context in mind.
Every use of those words indicates an "immersion" of some kind.
It may be into "Christ", (Rom 6:3), or, into an experience like it does for "Moses and the sea". (1 Cor 10:2)
Either way, without a water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, there is no remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38)
There is also no crucifixion of the flesh. (Gal 5:24)
There is also no circumcision of the body of sin made, without hands. (Col 2:11)
There is no destruction of the old man. (Rom 6:6)

I pray that you are unwilling to forgo any of those blessings.

And BAPTISM / BAPTISO is not a blessing to me as BAPTISM / BAPTIZO has been taken AWAY as LUKE wrote in

Acts 28: 25-28 and in 2 Cor 3:13--16 and in Acts 1:5

And in MARK 16 :16 Mark has this to write !

# 1 He that , BELIEVETH / PISTEUO , is in the Aorist Tense , Active Voice , in the Nominative Case , is a PARTICIPLE Tense

in Singular .

# 2 IS BAPTIZED / BAPTISO , in the Aorist tense , in the Passive Voice , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 3 SHALL BE SAVED / SOZO , is in the Greek , Future Tense , in the Passive Voice , Indicative Mood , in the

Indicative Mood , in the Singular

# 4 HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT // APISTEO , is in the Aorist Tense , Active Voice , is a Participle Tense

in the Nominative Case , in the Signular

# 5 , SHALL BE DAMNED / KATARINO , is in The GREEK , Future Tense , Passive Voice , in the Indicative Mood ,

in the Singular .

# 6 And these that were BAPTIZED in Mark 16:16-18 , Speak in new Tongues

# 7 , Take up Sepents

# 8 Drink any Deadly thing

# 9 , Lay hands on the Sick and they SHALL RECOVER

And have YET to see that kind of BAPTISM , have you ??

dan p