Yes, the "Way of the Lord" that the Jesus "of the bible" and Paul, and the Church of God under His Prophesied New Priesthood Covenant walked in, and taught others to "walk in", are moral. They define God's Righteousness, they define "Holiness" so that we can "Yield ourselves" to God, as Paul teaches, and be Holy for HE is Holy, as we are also instructed to be.
This Lord who defines theses things, AKA, "The Christ" who led Israel out of Sin (Egypt,)
became flesh in the person of Jesus, at least according to scriptures.
Eph. 2 isn't talking about the Commandments or Ordinances
that God gave Israel. That is the deception, the insidious lie. The teaching that it does is one of many lies and falsehoods being promoted by this world's religious system, "Who call Jesus Lord, Lord". Jesus and Paul both warn us about these deceivers "who come in Christ's Name".
This is the reason for my reply, to show that according to Scriptures, the teaching that it was
God's Laws that He gave to Israel that relegated Faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world" is an insidious lie, based on what is actually written in
Eph. 2.
You keep insisting that it was God's Laws HE gave to Israel, as do "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that caused the wall of separation between Faithful Jews as being "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world". But when a person actually studies the bible, and actually reads God's Laws concerning Non-Jews who turn to Him, this popular doctrine is exposed as a lie.
I wanted to show others the truth about
Eph. 2, because it seems important to know the truth rather than philosophies and religious traditions of men. Which was also part of Paul's teaching in his other epistles.
Col. 2:
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments "of the world", and not after Christ.
This doesn't surprise me and is why I left the religion, that you have adopted and are now promoting, so many years ago. But according Paul, it was the "Christ" who was the Holy One of Israel, who taught them in the way that they should go.
1 Cor. 10:
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Lev. 23:
1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. 3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. 4 These are the feasts "of the LORD", even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
And it was this Christ who came to earth and dwelled among men,
The Jesus "of the bible" even tells men that HE is Lord "even of the Sabbath Days". But like HE said:
Matt. 15:
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
I'm not interested in the image of God after the likeness of man being promoted by this world's religious system, nor do I care about the high days they created in worship of this image. I know they are important for the economy of many countries, and truly "
the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through" them. While the Feasts of the Christ are rejected, despised and promoted as unworthy of respect and honor by "Many" who come in Christ's Name".
But I don't want to get distracted from the discussion about whose Commandments and Ordinances that Jesus made a show of openly, that HE nailed to the cross, that relegated Faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world"
Certainly not me.
Can you show me one place in my posts where I said Jesus didn't expose and nail to His Cross the Commandments and Ordinances that relegated Faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world"? Of course you can't, because it's a lie.
This is why it is so frustrating to try and have an honest discussion with you.
So again, for the umpteenth time, the issue here is "WHOSE" Commandments and ordinances relegated faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world"?
You, Clare73, and "many" who profess to know God, preach to anyone who will listen to you, that it was God and HIS Commandments and Ordinances that relegated Faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world"
But Paul is saying that it was the Pharisees AKA, "The Circumcision, made with hands" whose commandments and ordinances they taught for doctrines, relegated Faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world".
I want others reading along to read for themselves what Paul actually says in Eph. 2, and also read what God's Commandment actually teaches about Faithful Gentiles.
Lev. 19:
33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be "unto you" as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
This is the Biblical Truth Bob. This is why you can't find any Commandment or ordinance written anywhere in the Law and Prophets that relegated a faithful Non-Jew of any nation, as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world".
Because it wasn't God or His Laws that were the problem, it was the mainstream preachers of that time, who were "
teaching for doctrines the commandments "of men"."
So in your religion, Caleb and Joshua and Abraham and Isaiah, David and Zacharias, Simeon and Anna, regarded themselves as "Superior" to Faithful Non-Jews?
Bob, who is teaching you this crap, certainly not the Christ "of the Bible"?
Let's stick to accepting the truth about Whose Commandments and Ordinances relegated Faithful Gentiles as "
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world".
Then we can fellowship about the New Priesthood VS. the Old Priesthood.