Louisiana indicts N.Y. doctor charged with prescribing abortion pills to Louisiana girl ; first criminal case of a doctor since Roe

[Landon Caeli]

That's what a wealthy young man said to Jesus when Jesus told him what he should do. Your eternal home depends on caring for others.


Matthew 25:34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

Are you trying to get me to argue against God? Or, does that end the conversation, because I can't understand why I should have to debate against scripture. I surely didn't ask for this. I don't speak for God. And your politics are not God breathed.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I disagree entirely. Rather, it has *nothing* to do with taxes. At all

It most certainly does. Taxes aren't the whole story, but it is part of the story. Wage stagnation and a growing disparity in wages between the people on the bottom vs those on the top are also parts of the story.

Trickle down doesn't trickle down.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Landon Caeli]

It most certainly does. Taxes aren't the whole story, but it is part of the story.

How? How does less taxes on the rich make people poor. I must know!

 

[ViaCrucis]

Are you trying to get me to argue against God? Or, does that end the conversation, because I can't understand why I should have to debate against scripture. I surely didn't ask for this. I don't speak for God. And your politics are not God breathed.

You could try to have your politics and social views informed by Scripture. If you feel like what you believe is contrary to God then what's the solution? You know the answer to this.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Landon Caeli]

You could try to have your politics and social views informed by Scripture. If you feel like what you believe is contrary to God then what's the solution? You know the answer to this.

-CryptoLutheran

Instead I'll double down. What do you think of that?

My religion is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
Leave your apologetics out of this discussion.

 

[BCP1928]

What does that even mean.

Let's take an hypothetical company running a profit. The amount of that profit which is retained by the company as investment capital is not taxed. A higher tax rate encourages the company to keep more of it's profit for improvements and expansion. On the other hand, lower taxes encourage using the profits as cash flow for financial manipulation unrelated to the business at hand rather than improving the profitablility of the company.

 

[BCP1928]

Are you trying to get me to argue against God? Or, does that end the conversation, because I can't understand why I should have to debate against scripture. I surely didn't ask for this. I don't speak for God. And your politics are not God breathed.

Neither are yours. That was the point.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Just to be clear, a snippet of one of my posts was cherry picked in #53, which caused this derailment, that revolves around someone else's religious beliefs - not the topic. And me being sucked into this rabbit hole.

..I'm out. And offended.

 

[The Barbarian]

Honestly, I prefer taking care of wild animals, who actually are starving most of the time.

People tell me that I get along with animals better than I do with people. But God loves people and made them capable of fellowship with Him. And He will judge us on how we treated other people in need.

 

[The Barbarian]

Are you trying to get me to argue against God?

I'm pointing out that Jesus says we will be judged on the way we treated the poor and unfortunate. I believe Him. I notice that God doesn't say "help the poor, if they deserve it." He just says "help the poor." And that's where I am.

 

[rjs330]

It most certainly does. Taxes aren't the whole story, but it is part of the story. Wage stagnation and a growing disparity in wages between the people on the bottom vs those on the top are also parts of the story.

Trickle down doesn't trickle down.

-CryptoLutheran

If course it trickles down. It just doesn't in the way you think it should. If it didnt trickle down we would have no economy or jobs. We'd be like the Middle Ages or Jesus day.

We have such abundance in this country that the "poor" aren't really poor.

 

[Landon Caeli]

People tell me that I get along with animals better than I do with people. But God loves people and made them capable of fellowship with Him. And He will judge us on how we treated other people in need.

I don't care. Remind me next time we communicate. I'm just going to reply to everything you say with scripture verses, so we can have a holy war in the News and Current events section.

 

[The Barbarian]

The top tax rate was over 90 percent in the 50s and 60s. A much larger percent of new wealth went into the pockets of the people actually making it. That's how it happened.

I disagree entirely.

Notice that the decline of the middle class began after the Reagan administration's tax cuts for the top bracket. It's no accident. Someone has to pay for the government. The burden was shifted farther down the economic scale. And the results are obvious.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Neither are yours. That was the point.

I'm not the one claiming to be backed-up by Jesus Christ in my politics.

 

[ralliann]

A New York doctor was criminally indicted Friday for allegedly prescribing abortion pills to a girl in Louisiana in what appears to be the first time an abortion provider has been prosecuted since Roe v. Wadewas overturned nearly three years ago.

Grand jurors in West Baton Rouge parish indicted Margaret Carpenter, 55, with effecting a criminal abortion by means of abortion-inducing drugs, court records show. They also indicted Carpenter’s company, Nightingale Medical. She faces one to five years in prison and a $5,000 to $50,000 fine if convicted of violating a 2022 Louisiana law that bans abortion.

The girl’s mother, whom The Washington Post is not naming to protect her daughter’s identity, was also charged with carrying out a criminal abortion.

On Friday afternoon, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) said Carpenter’s prosecution is exactly the scenario she and other lawmakers feared when passing the [shield] law, and that she planned to use it to refuse any requests to extradite Carpenter.

[The LA prosecutor] encouraged the doctor to come to West Baton Rouge parish of her own volition to defend herself.

In December, Carpenter was sued by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) for violating a state law banning the mailing or online prescribing of abortion drugs to people in Texas. Unlike Friday’s indictment in Louisiana, Carpenter faces no prison time if she’s found to have violated Texas’s civil statute.

Is this the result of pro abortionists to not aid these people? Why they do not provide for these people to do this legally is beyond me. They make enough money to do so.

 

[BCP1928]

If course it trickles down. It just doesn't in the way you think it should. If it didnt trickle down we would have no economy or jobs. We'd be like the Middle Ages or Jesus day.

We have such abundance in this country that the "poor" aren't really poor.

Who get's to decide how much will "trickle down?"

 

[rjs330]

You could try to have your politics and social views informed by Scripture. If you feel like what you believe is contrary to God then what's the solution? You know the answer to this.

-CryptoLutheran

Your politics and social views are only informed to the degree which you wish them to be. Poverty in Jesus day was a real thing. Real poverty.

This country provides MORE help and MORE services to the "poor" than you can imagine. Jesus said the "poor". And he did not provide a specific definition of "poor". But everyone knew what poor was and I created a post to show that.

He talked about giving to those in need. A man needed bread, why? Because he was going to starve to death in those days. No one is starving to death in thia country.

In Jesus day IF the poor had a home it was a hovel with nothing. Today the "poor" in America have a roof over their head, Nike shoes on their feet, a big screen tv and a small computer in their hands.

This is NOT a slam on those living below the poverty line. Its a slam on those who think we are not helping the poor enough. And need to give them more money and then try and twist scripture into quilting those who not only pay thousands and thousands of dollars out out of their paychecks and often give more of the money they are allowed to keep that they aren't doing enough

Well how much IS enough. How much do we have to give in order to say we are helping the poor? How much taxes should everyone pay and how much money do we have to give on order to finally satisfy your idea of what Jesus meant by helping the poor.

Ive been following Christ for many many years. Certainly not perfectly. Ive been a disappointment so many times I cant count. So if you have some thoughts on how much Jesus meant when he talked about helping others through tax policy id like to know. Because I too want to help, but I dont recall when Jesus told us how much taxes we have to pay and how much of it needs to go to the poor in order to meet the requirement.

Because the poor seems to be a moving target.

 

[rjs330]

I'm pointing out that Jesus says we will be judged on the way we treated the poor and unfortunate. I believe Him. I notice that God doesn't say "help the poor, if they deserve it." He just says "help the poor." And that's where I am.

Thats where we all are. We are all helping the poor. The question is are they really poor. What was Jesus l'definition of poor. Because rhe poor of his day were far different and in desperate need than the poor if our day. The poor of our day are being well taken care of by and large.

 

[rjs330]

Who get's to decide how much will "trickle down?"

Well certainly not you or I. Not with a private business. The workers of course can band together and make demands. Whether that works or not will vary.

Now we do have elections, and if the people in a state say that everyone needs to be paid $30 an hour at least, then they can elect people to do that. Then they can also deal with the fall out of that in their state. Whatever that may be.

But if a business pays too low, people they will have a hard time finding workers. If you pay too high then you will have a hard time finding customers.
Its none of your or my business to tell an owner how much he should make and how much of his excess of that has to go to the workers.

I understand the frustration. My son in law worked for a man who was a multi-millionaire. He built a painting company from scratch. Invested time energy and money, took rhe risk and it paid off.

Then he had employees. The employees got paid good money for around here but my son in law had a family of 4 kids to take care of and he lived paycheck to paycheck while his boss became a multi-millionaire. It was easy to say that the boss should give his employees more and more money. He didnt need those millions or that big fancy house, car and boat. He could have done with less and paid more. But every time my son in law went to hom and asked for more money he got more. Finally he decided he could do well.on his own and make more. So, he took the risk and went out on his own. And in three months made what he made in a whole year before. But he is also recognizing the challenges of finding the work, getting the equipment, trying to be prepared for when the work slows down. There is a LOT more to it than "I get more money".

So its not up you or me to decide how much. Its up to the market.

I will say this, much of the reasons people live paycheck to paycheck is housing. Its credit cards. But if we could solve the housing cost bit, things would be a LOT easier.

There was a time when my wife and I made about 1600 a month and rented a house for $275. Now, most times a place can cost you 1/2 your combined salary or more. If we could fix that, that would be a huge boon to the workers.

 

[The Barbarian]

Thats where we all are. We are all helping the poor. The question is are they really poor. What was Jesus l'definition of poor. Because rhe poor of his day were far different and in desperate need than the poor if our day. The poor of our day are being well taken care of by and large.

Roughly one million children are malnourished in America. A lot less than 100 years ago, but still a lot. And most malnourishment cases mean deminished intelligence and worse futures. It costs America money to have kids grow up like that.

Jesus didn't say "help the poor, if they deserve it."