Louisiana indicts N.Y. doctor charged with prescribing abortion pills to Louisiana girl ; first criminal case of a doctor since Roe

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A New York doctor was criminally indicted Friday for allegedly prescribing abortion pills to a girl in Louisiana in what appears to be the first time an abortion provider has been prosecuted since Roe v. Wadewas overturned nearly three years ago.

Grand jurors in West Baton Rouge parish indicted Margaret Carpenter, 55, with effecting a criminal abortion by means of abortion-inducing drugs, court records show. They also indicted Carpenter’s company, Nightingale Medical. She faces one to five years in prison and a $5,000 to $50,000 fine if convicted of violating a 2022 Louisiana law that bans abortion.

The girl’s mother, whom The Washington Post is not naming to protect her daughter’s identity, was also charged with carrying out a criminal abortion.

On Friday afternoon, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) said Carpenter’s prosecution is exactly the scenario she and other lawmakers feared when passing the [shield] law, and that she planned to use it to refuse any requests to extradite Carpenter.

[The LA prosecutor] encouraged the doctor to come to West Baton Rouge parish of her own volition to defend herself.

In December, Carpenter was sued by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) for violating a state law banning the mailing or online prescribing of abortion drugs to people in Texas. Unlike Friday’s indictment in Louisiana, Carpenter faces no prison time if she’s found to have violated Texas’s civil statute.

 

[Laodicean60]

The lunacy in our extremism. We complain about the heavy hand of the federal government now some Red-state hypocrites are doing the same thing.

 

[zippy2006]

Good. It's about time we started prosecuting murderers. The fact that we find it objectionable to prosecute people who kill their own children just shows how ridiculous of a society we are.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Good! The doctor and the mother were willing to do the time when they willingly broke this law. Now it's time to follow through!

 

[Landon Caeli]

The lunacy in our extremism. We complain about the heavy hand of the federal government now some Red-state hypocrites are doing the same thing.

This is a State government issue... Louisiana.

...If they had half a brain, they would have taken a car ride. Not that I think that's a good idea, I'm just saying. They're dumb.

 

[Laodicean60]

This is a State government issue... Louisiana.

Red state government extremism after Roe. When I was a Republican I remember all the talk about how the federal govt. taking away our rights and now we have Red states punishing people who don't believe like we do is extremism. Not many people can afford to drive and fly and I believe in the Constitution and liberty.

Yes it's a state issue which Trump agrees with but Louisiana is extreme. I foresee them going back to the coat-hanger days out of a kid's desperation and walla a dead baby and possibly a dead mother after she bleeds out.

I am pro-life but my views from the scripture aren't everyone else's view in this country. But if I was asked and invited into their life I would definitely advise them with my Christian views. Christian sinners shouldn't advise sinners unless invited to.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Red state government extremism after Roe. When I was a Republican I remember all the talk about how the federal govt. taking away our rights and now we have Red states punishing people who don't believe like we do is extremism. Not many people can afford to drive and fly and I believe in the Constitution and liberty.

Yes it's a state issue which Trump agrees with but Louisiana is extreme. I foresee them going back to the coat-hanger days out of a kid's desperation and walla a dead baby and possibly a dead mother after she bleeds out.

I am pro-life but my views from the scripture aren't everyone else's view in this country. But if I was asked and invited into their life I would definitely advise them with my Christian views. Christian sinners shouldn't advise sinners unless invited to.

Im no longer interested in "the poor".

My focus will remain strong with the middle class. I don't care if anyone thinks that's wrong - we spent the last two liberal administrations attending to the dirt poor, and it got us nowhere. Their time in the lime light has expired.

Abortion is bad for middle-class America.

 

[comana]

Im no longer interested in "the poor".

My focus will remain strong with the middle class. I don't care if anyone thinks that's wrong - we spent the last two liberal administrations attending to the dirt poor, and it got us nowhere. Their time in the lime light has expired.

Abortion is bad for middle-class America.

Abortion is still very accessible to the middle class.

 

[Laodicean60]

Im no longer interested in "the poor".

My focus will remain strong with the middle class. I don't care if anyone thinks that's wrong - we spent the last two liberal administrations attending to the dirt poor, and it got us nowhere. Their time in the lime light has expired.

You are not wrong about the middle class you'll find we are a dying breed. I understand in the last 16 years we have been under liberal govt. for 12 of those years but I believe there is a smidgen of good things if you're willing to look back.

The dying middle class = Monetary policy and thus #end the Fed and to ignorance of our politicians about economics and thus fiscal policy. Trump is a big spender and I don't like that and tariffs worry me.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Abortion is still very accessible to the middle class.

But we're making it more difficult. We should continue our attack against "the choice". It's what's best for our nation.

 

[BCP1928]

But we're making it more difficult. We should continue our attack against "the choice". It's what's best for our nation.

No, not more difficult, just more expensive. Safe, medically supervised abortion has always been, will always be available to women of means. Back when I was in high school--well before Roe--it was understood that a working class girl who got in trouble would be expelled from school to the uncertain fate of a "home" or an unwise marriage. A rich girl, on the other hand, could take a couple of weeks off school to visit previously unmentioned relatives in Sweden and her life would go on as before when she returned.

 

[comana]

But we're making it more difficult. We should continue our attack against "the choice". It's what's best for our nation.

Certain states are making it more difficult. Those with enough money will never be without the choice.

A strong middle class needs disposable income to contribute to economic growth as consumers. More children just consumes that income. Right now our childbearing age population either can’t afford children or would rather not spend their income on children.

The poor will have more children because they have fewer options than the classes with money.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Certain states are making it more difficult. Those with enough money will never be without the choice.

A strong middle class needs disposable income to contribute to economic growth as consumers. More children just consumes that income. Right now our childbearing age population either can’t afford children or would rather not spend their income on children.

The poor will have more children because they have fewer options than the classes with money.

No, not more difficult, just more expensive. Safe, medically supervised abortion has always been, will always be available to women of means. Back when I was in high school--well before Roe--it was understood that a working class girl who got in trouble would be expelled from school to the uncertain fate of a "home" or an unwise marriage. A rich girl, on the other hand, could take a couple of weeks off school to visit previously unmentioned relatives in Sweden and her life would go on as before when she returned.

So the poor will continue to have more children, and the rich will continue to have their abortions? Oh well!

We still keep on fighting for the good of the country, even if it means forever. We'll have the same fight against fentanyl, I promise.

...It's forever. And we never give up.

 

[BCP1928]

So the poor will continue to have more children, and the rich will continue to have their abortions? Oh well!

That seems to be the intention.

We still keep on fighting for the good of the country, even if it means forever. We'll have the same fight against fentanyl, I promise.

...It's forever. And we never give up.

By criminalizing it's use by the poor without curtailing it's availability to the rich.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The poor will have more children because they have fewer options than the classes with money.

And as long as the government rewards the poor for having more children, they will.

 

[Landon Caeli]

That seems to be the intention.

By criminalizing it's use by the poor without curtailing it's availability to the rich.

Your logic isn't adding up to any foreseeable conclusion. Unless you think that the poor are all inherently stupid and ignorant... In which case, they could never move up to become the middle class.

Would you rather immigrants come in to fill the void? And forget about all those who would be the natural descendants of the original Americans?

Perhaps some think I'm a fool for caring about that kind of preservation.

 

[Landon Caeli]

But no, I *want* our lineages to pass on. I do!

...I don't want to be replaced. I think it's a natural instinct to be this way. My unique DNA has much to offer the future world.

 

[comana]

Your logic isn't adding up to any foreseeable conclusion. Unless you think that the poor are all inherently stupid and ignorant... In which case, they could never move up to become the middle class.

Would you rather immigrants come in to fill the void? And forget about all those who would be the natural descendants of the original Americans?

Perhaps some think I'm a fool for caring about that kind of preservation.

When is the cutoff for “original Americans”? Which wave of immigrants is the last to qualify?

 

[Pommer]

But no, I *want* our lineages to pass on. I do!

...I don't want to be replaced. I think it's a natural instinct to be this way. My unique DNA has much to offer the future world.

That’s a good and fine way to think/feel.

My DNA is at the absolute pinnacle of its development and any offspring of mine would have been a dissolution of it…therefore I was spared the compulsion to have any.
(Or, as I have said in the past: “God has richly blessed my children by the mere fact that I haven’t any!”)

 

[BCP1928]

Your logic isn't adding up to any foreseeable conclusion. Unless you think that the poor are all inherently stupid and ignorant... In which case, they could never move up to become the middle class.

They're smart enough, if given the opportunity. Many don't want to. For myself, after college and a few unhappy years in a necktie job, I gave it up and went back to the machinist trade.

Would you rather immigrants come in to fill the void? And forget about all those who would be the natural descendants of the original Americans?

Perhaps some think I'm a fool for caring about that kind of preservation.

What, exactly, do you wish to preserve?