Did the early church worship on Sabbath?

[SabbathBlessings]

Of course Jesus kept it. That was one of His principle reasons for coming. To fullfill the law without blemish. He was still old testament.
Keep which ever day you chose. To me they are all the same.

The days might be the same to you, but what does God say. Exo 20:8-11 Gen 2:1-3 Isa 58:13 Isa 56:1-6 Eze 22:26 Lev 23:3 Mark 2:27-28 Eze 20:12, 20 Isa 66:23

Jesus did fulfill the law like fulfilling a wedding vow, to show us by example how to keep it John 15:10 1 John 2:6 1 Peter 2:21-22 Heb 4:15 He also taught for us not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments Matthew 5:19

Jesus is not Old Testament. He is the way, the only way John 14:6

 

[prodromos]

I doesn’t seem like you are reading the Text. It was the Gentiles asking for more preaching the word of God on the next Sabbath, instead of asking for it the next day.

They would have all been working the next day.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

They would have all been working the next day.

Agreed! Exo 20:9 The 4th commandment is not just the commandment for the Sabbath, it is for all days. Exo 20:8-11

 

[Leaf473]

Someone who is working on the first day of the week isn't necessarily observing the Sabbath commandment

A spiritual song from Isaiah 48
“I have shown you new things from this time,
even hidden things, which you have not known.
7 They are created now, and not from of old.
Before today, you didn’t hear them,
lest you should say, ‘Behold, I knew them

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Both Jews and Gentiles kept the Sabbath in the same manner as the apostles and of Jesus Luke 4:16 all supporting the commandment of God.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

Gentiles at that time were either pagans, God-fearers and/or ger toshav.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Gentiles at that time were either pagans, God-fearers and/or ger toshav.

According to the Scripture they were gathered to hear the word of God.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

According to the Scripture they were gathered to hear the word of God.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

So they were likely ger toshav...that is why they were there. Gentile Christians would be in house churches at the time or in synagogues as God-fearers.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So they were likely ger toshav...that is why they were there. Gentile Christians would be in house churches at the time or in synagogues as God-fearers.

Do you have Scripture that says this?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Do you have Scripture that says this?

The same ones u posted as well as historical docs...n the context of Judaism during Paul's time, and as described in early Christian writings, the terms Ger Toshav and God-fearers refer to Gentiles who, while not fully converting to Judaism, were drawn to its monotheistic beliefs and practices. You basically had to be a Noahide as described in Acts. There it says Moshe is taught every Shabbat. They attended synagogues, observed the Sabbath to some extent and adhere to certain dietary laws, without fully embracing the Jewish covenant.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The same ones u posted as well as historical docs...n the context of Judaism during Paul's time, and as described in early Christian writings, the terms Ger Toshav and God-fearers refer to Gentiles who, while not fully converting to Judaism, were drawn to its monotheistic beliefs and practices. You basically had to be a Noahide as described in Acts. There it says Moshe is taught every Shabbat. They attended synagogues, observed the Sabbath to some extent and adhere to certain dietary laws, without fully embracing the Jewish covenant.

Sounds like Gentile Christians, not based on nationality but those with faith Gal 3:26-30 Rev 14:12 John 15:10 1 John 2:6

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Sounds like Gentile Christians, not based on nationality but those with faith Gal 3:26-30 Rev 14:12 John 15:10 1 John 2:6

Those that would eventually believe Paul's message would be...

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Those that would eventually believe Paul's message would be...

Paul taught to keep God’s commandants 1 Cor 7:19 Rom 7:7 just as Jesus did. John 14:15 John 15:10 The apostles were commissioned to spread the gospel and to observe everthing Jesus commanded. Mat 28:18-20 We see this in their life such as the Scriptures Acts 13:42, 44 Acts 18:4 etc

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Paul taught to keep God’s commandants 1 Cor 7:19 Rom 7:7 just as Jesus did. John 14:15 John 15:10 The apostles were commissioned to spread the gospel and to observe everthing Jesus commanded. Mat 28:18-20 We see this in their life such as the Scriptures Acts 13:42, 44 Acts 18:4 etc

What is your point? Are you agreeing with me or not agreeing?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

What is your point? Are you agreeing with me or not agreeing?

I agree in regards that if the Gentiles listened to Paul who taught what Jesus taught, but it’s possible we might not agree on what that means. I believe Paul upheld God’s commandments, all of them including the Sabbath commandment as we have seen throughout his life decades after the Cross, just as Jesus indicated they would be doing Mat 24:20 Isa 56:1-6 I believe God’s people both Jew and Gentiles with faith keep the commandments of God which of course includes the Ten Commandments- God’s own Testimony Exo 31:18

 

[FredVB]

That's fine, I'm not locked into a particular day before the last supper, etc


The sun sets in New York City marking the beginning of the seventh day, and then about 3 hours later in Los Angeles. As the sunset moves across the Pacific, it sets in Manila about 8 hours after that, still marking the beginning of the seventh day

But the people there celebrated the seventh day 24 hours earlier

Is that an issue, or is it no big deal as long as you pick a sunset?


If you're talking about vegetarianism, it's important to many seventh day observers because of the writings of Ellen White. Maybe I should clarify that as Christian seventh Day observers


Many Jewish people are fine following the traditions of the rabbis. Many Christian seventh day observers dislike that idea

It is apparently assumed that as a seventh day Sabbath observer I am a Seventh Day Adventist. This has been assumed before, it has nothing to do with the reality. I am not, and I do not make any choices based on anything whatever of what White said. I observe the will of God, and that is what is shown first in the Bible. It is why it is good to read it from the start onward. What is revealed later apparently contrary is, if it is not put in by lying scribes, an accommodation for stubborn people with hard hearts, while God is not willing that any perish, that repentant ones would come with faith to salvation with God's revelation. The earlier thing is God's will, and desirable to do. Genesis 1:29 is included, and it is included in the dominion that was spoken of in the very same passage. People add things to speak of what Jesus did, that they do not know from passages. And I do see some of them were certainly changed.

 

[Leaf473]

God gives a lot of commandments, including the 10

The entire book of Numbers

Numbers 36:13
These are the commandments and the ordinances which the Lord commanded by Moses to the children of Israel in the plains of Moab by the Jordan at Jericho

Your commandments make me wiser than my enemies, for your commandments are always with me Psalm 119

 

[Leaf473]

It is apparently assumed that as a seventh day Sabbath observer I am a Seventh Day Adventist. This has been assumed before, it has nothing to do with the reality. I am not, and I do not make any choices based on anything whatever of what White said. I observe the will of God, and that is what is shown first in the Bible. It is why it is good to read it from the start onward.

Hey Fred, you're back!

Myself, I didn't assume you were a Seventh-Day Adventist, I carefully said "many seventh day observers"

What is revealed later apparently contrary is, if it is not put in by lying scribes,

Do you believe we have a reliable text of the Bible to work with?

...an accommodation for stubborn people with hard hearts, while God is not willing that any perish, that repentant ones would come with faith to salvation with God's revelation.

The allowance to eat whatever is sold in the store, is that just an accommodation?

The earlier thing is God's will, and desirable to do. Genesis 1:29 is included, and it is included in the dominion that was spoken of in the very same passage. People add things to speak of what Jesus did, that they do not know from passages. And I do see some of them were certainly changed.

Do you see the Old Covenant as superior to the New?

I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah, 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt - Jeremiah

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Just for the record, most SDA's I would like to beleive keep the Sabbath not because of what EGW says. We keep the Sabbath because we also beleive we should only worship God, and not vain His holy name, or steal or covet and the Sabbath, God placed in this same unit and its a commandment of God and He said right in the Ten Commandments, for those who love Me and keep My commandments, so I imagine people who choose to keep the Sabbath day holy do so, for the same reasons, not because a human told us, but because we love God.

 

[Leaf473]

It looks like a command given to Moses counts as a commandment of God

Numbers 4:49
According to the commandment of the Lord they were counted by Moses, everyone according to his service and according to his burden. Thus they were counted by him, as the Lord commanded Moses

 

[Leaf473]

I don't know of anyone who posts in this section who would say that they knowingly and willfully disregard any of God's Commandments because they don't really love him

Everyone wants to keep God's Commandments as they read them in the Bible

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Regarding worship on the Sabbath, what do the scriptures say to do if you live close to the poles and the sun sets once during the time it sets several times at the equator?

I'm not asking because I live near a pole myself. Rather, if the scriptures don't say, it indicates to me that God didn't expect people to be observing sunsets when the gospel reached the polar regions

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