Fossil "Mummy" gives glimpse of dinosaur skin.

[dlamberth]

"duck-billed dinosaur Edmontosaurus annectens is a fossil with a difference—it offers a rare glimpse of the texture of dinosaur skin."


https://www.amnh.org/explore/news-blogs/fossil-duck-bill-skin

 

[AV1611VET]

"duck-billed dinosaur Edmontosaurus annectens is a fossil with a difference—it offers a rare glimpse of the texture of dinosaur skin."


https://www.amnh.org/explore/news-blogs/fossil-duck-bill-skin

And if they happen to find another one with different skin?

Back to the drawing board.

 

[trophy33]

And if they happen to find another one with different skin?

Back to the drawing board.

That is the point. More data means better results.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is the point. More data means better results.

But which one are you going to believe is the norm?

If you find another one with a rough skin -- which one is the norm?

Smooth-skinned duck-billed dinosaurs; or rough-skinned dinosaurs?

 

[trophy33]

But which one are you going to believe is the norm?

If you find another one with a rough skin -- which one is the norm?

Smooth-skinned duck-billed dinosaurs; or rough-skinned dinosaurs?

If you find two different, then you know there were at least two different. To know which one was "the norm", then you would need to find more and more.

I am not even sure what is your point, always complaining about how science works.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am not even sure what is your point, always complaining about how science works.

It's when science doesn't work is what academia needs to understand.

One of my favorite pics:

 

[trophy33]

It's when science doesn't work is what academia needs to understand.

What academia? You mean universities? Have you been to any?

 

[AV1611VET]

What academia? You mean universities? Have you been to any?

I have a college degree.

 

[trophy33]

I have a college degree.

And what do you complain about? Was it a bad college?

 

[AV1611VET]

And what do you complain about? Was it a bad college?

It was all right.

I have a college degree in Business Administration, and Navy-certificates in Oceanography & Introduction to Space Technology.

I also extensively studied zoology and astronomy.

But that was in my teens and early twenties.

Science has gone back to the chalkboard so many times since then, I'd probably get a failing grade if tested today.

And I couldn't care less.

 

[trophy33]

It was all right.

I have a college degree in Business Administration, and Navy-certificates in Oceanography & Introduction to Space Technology.

I also extensively studied zoology and astronomy.

But that was in my teens and early twenties.

Science has gone back to the chalkboard so many times since then, I'd probably get a failing grade if tested today.

And I couldn't care less.

Ah, so you are not against academia, you are just disappointed that you need to keep up with current development?

Well, it works for most people in this way - they study, they get a degree, they start their career and update their knowledge in the field of their profession their whole careers.

Imagine going to a dentist who did not update his practice for 30 years. Urgh.

 

[Tuur]

"duck-billed dinosaur Edmontosaurus annectens is a fossil with a difference—it offers a rare glimpse of the texture of dinosaur skin."


https://www.amnh.org/explore/news-blogs/fossil-duck-bill-skin

Umm...I guess it's to sort of advertise an exhibit? In the 1960s there were references to fossilized hadrosaur skin (which I remember thinking "way cool."

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And if they happen to find another one with different skin?

Back to the drawing board.

Not at all really.

 

[Ophiolite]

Not at all really.

I think he may have missed the bit where evolution creates diversity. Darwin said it beautifully:

It is interesting to contemplate an entangled bank, clothed with many plants of many kinds, with birds singing on the bushes, with various insects flitting about, and with worms crawling through the damp earth, and to reflect that these elaborately constructed forms, so different from each other, and dependent on each other in so complex a manner, have all been produced by laws acting around us.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I think he may have missed the bit where evolution creates diversity. Darwin said it beautifully:

It is interesting to contemplate an entangled bank, clothed with many plants of many kinds, with birds singing on the bushes, with various insects flitting about, and with worms crawling through the damp earth, and to reflect that these elaborately constructed forms, so different from each other, and dependent on each other in so complex a manner, have all been produced by laws acting around us.

But he needs something to rail against.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not at all really.

QV this picture of an Edmontosaurus annectens:

Yet, according to the article in the OP, this guy offers us a "rare glimpse" of its skin texture.

And according to the link:

Fossilized skin and even its impressions of skin are rare and exciting finds, offering invaluable information about how the dinosaurs’ skin patterns compare to living reptiles and what they looked like in life.

If it's so rare, how did the artist get it?

 

[AV1611VET]

I think he may have missed the bit where evolution creates diversity. Darwin said it beautifully:

It is interesting to contemplate an entangled bank, clothed with many plants of many kinds, with birds singing on the bushes, with various insects flitting about, and with worms crawling through the damp earth, and to reflect that these elaborately constructed forms, so different from each other, and dependent on each other in so complex a manner, have all been produced by laws acting around us.

Yup.

Reminds me of this picture:

 

[AV1611VET]

But he needs something to rail against.

I don't have to look far, do I?

You guys hand them to me on a silver platter.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

QV this picture of an Edmontosaurus annectens:

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Yet, according to the article in the OP, this guy offers us a "rare glimpse" of its skin texture.

And according to the link:

Fossilized skin and even its impressions of skin are rare and exciting finds, offering invaluable information about how the dinosaurs’ skin patterns compare to living reptiles and what they looked like in life.

If it's so rare, how did the artist get it?

Extrapolation based on the current data we have.

Yes, fossilized skin and skin impressions are incredibly rare, because skin does not fossilize, it decays and gets eaten by carrion feeders. So all we can do is make educated guesses on what dinosaur skin was like working with what we know about animals related to dinosaurs and animals that biologically adjacent to dinosaurs.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I don't have to look far, do I?

You guys hand them to me on a silver platter.

No, you don't have to look far, because you're always on the lookout for your next "GOTCHA!" idea, no matter how easily it's explained to you that you are incorrect and wrong about something.

Your own myopic view is essentially nothing more than "Oh... well, I don't like/agree with that, so it's wrong." That's all it is.