Multiple immigration sweeps reported across Los Angeles, with a tense standoff/protest downtown; SEIU union leader arrested

[rjs330]

That's fine, because it is "how" they are doing it which under dispute.

Thats fine, but it still doesn't make them like the gestapo. They are arresting people who have broken the laws. They are not uniformed patrol officers but federal agents. Federal agents carry badges and arw in plain clothes and will often wear vests that indicate who they are. They are not required by law to use marked cars or have light bars on the top. There is NOTHING inappropriate about any if that, including putting someone in an unmarked federal LE vehicle.

Tell me what is wrong with any of that.

 

[rjs330]

There was some prioritizing promised by the President, but he didn't deliver.

Prioritizing doesn't mean only. He never promised or proclaimed that ONLY violent illegals would be deported. A prioritization diea not mean no other illegals would be deported.

ICE is being directed by executive order, not the laws. We don't always know if they are obering the law or not.

The executive orders are based upon the laws. There is NO violation of law for the president to tell ICE to pick up illegal aliens, which is precisely what their job is.

How do you know? We don't know what has happened to most of them, not even their families know.

How do I know? That is really your response? Thats one of rhe most ridiculous asinine questions ive heard in a long time. So you are really honeatly suspicious that ICE is picking people up and putting them in concentration camps, starving them. Gassing them and putting them in mass Graves?

We've actually seen them put in holding facilities. We dont know? Is there some sort of law that requires ICE to tell the American people where the detainees are? Why do YOU need to know. Whats the requirement for that?

 

[BCP1928]

Thats fine, but it still doesn't make them like the gestapo. They are arresting people who have broken the laws. They are not uniformed patrol officers but federal agents. Federal agents carry badges and arw in plain clothes and will often wear vests that indicate who they are. They are not required by law to use marked cars or have light bars on the top. There is NOTHING inappropriate about any if that, including putting someone in an unmarked federal LE vehicle.

Tell me what is wrong with any of that.

Nothing at all. Now here's one for you: you want to deport a student, but instead of telling the student to go home, you cancel her student visa without telling her and then arrest her for a criminal visa overstay.

Tell me what is wrong with any of that.

 

[NxNW]

We've actually seen them put in holding facilities. We dont know? Is there some sort of law that requires ICE to tell the American people where the detainees are? Why do YOU need to know. Whats the requirement for that?

The Constitutional requirement for due process.

 

[BCP1928]

Prioritizing doesn't mean only. He never promised or proclaimed that ONLY violent illegals would be deported. A prioritization diea not mean no other illegals would be deported.

The executive orders are based upon the laws. There is NO violation of law for the president to tell ICE to pick up illegal aliens, which is precisely what their job is.

How do I know? That is really your response? Thats one of rhe most ridiculous asinine questions ive heard in a long time. So you are really honeatly suspicious that ICE is picking people up and putting them in concentration camps, starving them. Gassing them and putting them in mass Graves?

We've actually seen them put in holding facilities. We dont know? Is there some sort of law that requires ICE to tell the American people where the detainees are? Why do YOU need to know. Whats the requirement for that?

No, I have no idea what ICE is doing with them, but their friends and families would like to know.

 

[Hentenza]

Nothing at all. Now here's one for you: you want to deport a student, but instead of telling the student to go home, you cancel her student visa without telling her and then arrest her for a criminal visa overstay.

Tell me what is wrong with any of that.

Everything is wrong with that except for the foreign students that come in to cause trouble.

 

[Hentenza]

No, I have no idea what ICE is doing with them, but their friends and families would like to know.

I would like to see a lot more transparency. It is the right thing to do.

 

[rjs330]

There was a lot of talk of "criminal Jews" and "parasitic Jews" and "Der Ewige Juden" but the Nazi laws did not say anything about that.

The Gestapo was just following orders.

This is the same allegations leveled at local police. In essence any LE agency that enforces the laws are basically gestapo.

There are criminals of all races, there are parasitic people of all races etc. But hey if LE enforces laws against that group they are like the gestapo.

Absolutely foolishness. Nothing but leftist propaganda in trying to demonize LE who does things they dont like. Its a stupid, idiotic and ridiculous statement.

 

[rjs330]

LAPD & LA Sherrifs end up shooting each other. Then the LAPD gassed the Sherrifs.

Thanks, Obama. And Biden. It's your fault, too!

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I, for one, feel that another press conference at Four Seasons Landscaping is in order. Rudy could come out of retirement!

Thats actually kind of funny. Bad tactics and lack of communication. The bane of LE.

 

[essentialsaltes]

There are criminals of all races, there are parasitic people of all races etc.

If human beings are reduced to parasites, then yes you will hear comparisons to Nazis.

 

[rjs330]

Nothing at all. Now here's one for you: you want to deport a student, but instead of telling the student to go home, you cancel her student visa without telling her and then arrest her for a criminal visa overstay.

Tell me what is wrong with any of that.

Nothing is wrong with that. It falls within the laws. I would argue that it certainly would be better to tell her, her visa is canceled and she needs to self deport. I believe that would be a better way of doing it. But its not WRONG to do it the other way.

If I were in charge, I would want the team to notify. I would give them 21 days to self deport then in 21days go see if they have.

 

[rjs330]

The Constitutional requirement for due process.

The Constitution does NOT require that YOU be notified of the location of illegal detainees.

 

[rjs330]

I would like to see a lot more transparency. It is the right thing to do.

I certainly support them telling the families where they are. I think its best practice. At least until there are disturbances at the locations. And as we have seen in LA that is a real possibility. So, if there are disturbances then I have no issue with keeping these places secret.

I do believe that once they are deported then there is no reason not to say where they were deported to. That would be best in my opinion.

However that does NOT make it a legal requirement. If we want that, then tell Confress to get off their buttons and pass laws that require that.

Thats how this countrey is supposed to work.

 

[Yttrium]

So you are really honeatly suspicious that ICE is picking people up and putting them in concentration camps, starving them. Gassing them and putting them in mass Graves?

Concentration camps get such a bad rep. The illegal aliens will be fine. They'll have food and shelter and some medical care. And here we have MAGA becoming the big government party. They'll have to make and run all these concentration camps for huge numbers of illegals, housing and caring for them indefinitely. Why? Because they're grabbing the illegal aliens far faster than they can deport them. What a great hiring opportunity for people who were kicked out of their other government jobs. Apply now to work at the camps.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Everything is wrong with that except for the foreign students that come in to cause trouble.

They all came to study and get a degree from a top American university. Whatever "trouble" they made after coming was not the purpose of their attendance.

 

[Hentenza]

They all came to study and get a degree from a top American university. Whatever "trouble" they made after coming was not the purpose of their attendance.

Some go above their studies and support anti american sentiment. That’s not cool.

 

[NxNW]

The Constitution does NOT require that YOU be notified of the location of illegal detainees.

I never said otherwise. But without an official source listing the location, due process could be denied.

 

[NxNW]

Concentration camps get such a bad rep. The illegal aliens will be fine. They'll have food and shelter and some medical care... What a great hiring opportunity for people who were kicked out of their other government jobs. Apply now to work at the camps.

I think someone once said, Work Makes You Free.

 

[NxNW]

Some go above their studies and support anti american sentiment. That’s not cool.

It's also not illegal.

 

[Hentenza]

It's also not illegal.

And? Why would anyone that has been given the privilege to study at one of our great universities disparage the US? They can just go home.