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Multiple immigration sweeps reported across Los Angeles, with a tense standoff/protest downtown; SEIU union leader arrested

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To put that in perspective, the city of Los Angeles covers around 502 square miles.

...and the greater metro area consist of nearly 17 Million people....more than the ppulation of many states.
 
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A shirtless guy on top of a police car waving a Mexican flag while vehicles burn around him., and video of looting, rocks thrown at LE vehicles and boulders dropped off of overpasses.
Should make good adds for Republicans.
Gosh. You really think that Republicans are dumb enough to be fooled by what Trump has done? That he has escalated the situation so much that a picture of a shirtless guy standing on a car is going to promote people to think 'Wow, he saved L.A. from being destroyed'.

You are kidding me, surely.

Trump is doing this to get people like you to think like that. To think that the result of what he has done is important. And to completely ignore and discount the CAUSE of these problems.

You guys deserve him and the rest of this clown show. Trump, Miller, Musk...no, really. You don't deserve anything better...
 
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I've mostly ignored some of his comments, he exaggerates and sometimes lies, and I don't approve of everything he does.
There's supposed to be a ruling about his use of the National Guard without the request of the Governor tomorrow and they'll likely go home.
But now Republicans have their adds for the midterms ready fo go
A shirtless guy on top of a police car waving a Mexican flag while vehicles burn around him., and video of looting, rocks thrown at LE vehicles and boulders dropped off of overpasses.
Should make good adds for Republicans

Yep, mission accomplished. Well, maybe not over yet. Let's see which liberal city is the next target of Steven Miller's Home Depot raids.
 
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Wait, I thought there were no illegal immigrants at the protests
Bold of you to assume that the people they’re deporting are here illegally. They haven’t been limiting themselves like that recently.
 
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Oh you heard?
Back to speculative imagination
Yes, I heard that being reported on the news. There's no reason for a simple passing comment like that to spark hostility. I'm your brother in Christ, not your mortal enemy.
 
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A shirtless guy on top of a police car waving a Mexican flag while vehicles burn around him., and video of looting, rocks thrown at LE vehicles and boulders dropped off of overpasses.
Should make good adds for Republicans
When the LAPD is on the side of the protesters, your "riot" is pretty weak sauce.
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Gosh. You really think that Republicans are dumb enough to be fooled by what Trump has done? That he has escalated the situation so much that a picture of a shirtless guy standing on a car is going to promote people to think 'Wow, he saved L.A. from being destroyed'.

You are kidding me, surely.

Trump is doing this to get people like you to think like that. To think that the result of what he has done is important. And to completely ignore and discount the CAUSE of these problems.

You guys deserve him and the rest of this clown show. Trump, Miller, Musk...no, really. You don't deserve anything better...
Ignore the violence as long as you can blame someone else for it.
 
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Ignore the violence as long as you can blame someone else for it.
Look, let me explain something to you. Whether there is a problem in business, sport, politics, law enforcement...any problem that you have, the first thing to do is to solve the immediate problem. What is actually happening and how do you best deal with it. In this case, it was down to the L.A. police and, if necessary, the governor to deal with it. In the way that they thought was most applicable.

The second thing to do, and this is possibly the most important, is to find out what caused the problem in the first instance.

The third action that should be taken to is prevent the same situation happening again.

They had a handle on the first. If necessary, they could have called in extra help in the form of the National Guard to help. Seeing that in the grand scheme of things, this was just a protest that some people used as an excuse to cause more problems, they had it covered. If this had been a local incident about a robbery or a gang fight that got out of control, you would never have heard about it. The mayor, the governor, the chief of police and the D.A., all who would know exactly what was going down, have confirmed this.

The second? Well, we know what it was. It was Trump overriding the authority of the governor and federalising the NG. He is not empowered, in these situations, to do that. It was Trump saying that there was a danger that the city of Los Angeles was in danger. A nonsensical, and dangerous, lie. And it was Trump actually ordering that Marines should be sent in as well. Could there have been more of a monstrously stupid move?

It now all seems relatively quiet in that tiny area of L.A. So they've solved the first problem. And we know what caused it. So that's the second problem solved. Now you're left with the third. How do you stop it? Well, you can't. You voted for this guy so expect to see more of all the same. Look at what Miller said:

According to the Washington Examiner, Miller called an emergency meeting with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s top 50 field heads in Washington, D.C., berating them for the agency’s arrest and deportation numbers. Miller told agents that criminals — or the “worst of the worst” — needn’t be ICE’s sole targets. Instead, he told them to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,”. Miller reportedly urged ICE to zero in on informal labor hubs like Home Depot parking lots and 7-Eleven stores...

So hey, forget about the bad dudes. Just go for your casual workers. Just round up anyone you think might be illegal. Let's keep those numbers up! So that's what's going to happen. And Trump will do the same thing. And things will escalate again. And lucky you, you'll have a couple of pictures of a burning car and maybe someone throwing a rock so you'll feel justified in your righteous anger against these people. Who are likely, yet again, being deported without due process.

Rinse and repeat.
 
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Illegal. Federalized National Guard can not participate in police activities.
Attorney General Pam Bondi said the administration "is not scared to go further" in expanding its legal authority to deploy troops in the city.

Trump said in an interview with the New York Post's Pod Force One, said: "I'm able to do things now that I wouldn't have been able to do because the previous president and presidency was so bad that anybody looks good.

"As an example, I can be stronger on an attack on Los Angeles," Trump said. "I think bringing in the National Guard four years ago, or eight years ago, would have been more difficult."

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Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said his agency is investigating whether there's "conspiracy" or organization behind crimes committed during protests.

"There is some evidence we've seen that I don't want to share at this time," Luna said at a Wednesday news conference with Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman.

Leticia Rhi Buckley, who lives and works just under a mile from the Los Angeles Federal Building, told CNN that the Trump administration's narrative that Los Angeles is under siege is false. She said the vast majority of what she's witnessed has been peaceful.

"I live less than a mile from here. I drive home and about five blocks down, there's nothing. It's like nothing is happening," she said. "Living in downtown for 15 years, it's gotten louder when the Dodgers won the World Series, or when the Lakers won."

[I'm 10 miles from DTLA. Apart from watching too much live news coverage, the actual events haven't affected me in any way whatsoever. LA is unimaginably huge for many people. The fires were 10 miles that way, and DTLA is 10 miles the other way.]

Bass, the Los Angeles mayor, said "the portrayal is that all of our cities are in chaos. Rioting is happening everywhere, and it is a lie," she said, adding it is not an insurrection as Trump suggests.
 
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Attorney General Pam Bondi said the administration "is not scared to go further" in expanding its legal authority to deploy troops in the city.

Trump said in an interview with the New York Post's Pod Force One, said: "I'm able to do things now that I wouldn't have been able to do because the previous president and presidency was so bad that anybody looks good.

"As an example, I can be stronger on an attack on Los Angeles," Trump said. "I think bringing in the National Guard four years ago, or eight years ago, would have been more difficult."

Situation on the streets

Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said his agency is investigating whether there's "conspiracy" or organization behind crimes committed during protests.

"There is some evidence we've seen that I don't want to share at this time," Luna said at a Wednesday news conference with Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman.

Leticia Rhi Buckley, who lives and works just under a mile from the Los Angeles Federal Building, told CNN that the Trump administration's narrative that Los Angeles is under siege is false. She said the vast majority of what she's witnessed has been peaceful.

"I live less than a mile from here. I drive home and about five blocks down, there's nothing. It's like nothing is happening," she said. "Living in downtown for 15 years, it's gotten louder when the Dodgers won the World Series, or when the Lakers won."

[I'm 10 miles from DTLA. Apart from watching too much live news coverage, the actual events haven't affected me in any way whatsoever. LA is unimaginably huge for many people. The fires were 10 miles that way, and DTLA is 10 miles the other way.]

Bass, the Los Angeles mayor, said "the portrayal is that all of our cities are in chaos. Rioting is happening everywhere, and it is a lie," she said, adding it is not an insurrection as Trump suggests.
LA is a big place. I think we all know that the entire city is not engulfed in a city wide insurrection and lawlessness. Its only in a small area of the city. And there were times that the lawlessness was out of control in that area to the point that LE was overwhelmed. The chief went on to "reconsider" that they needed the NG.

Bass herself told us how bad it was it needed a curfew. She was also concerned they may not be able to have the World Cup due to the destruction.
 
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Bass herself told us how bad it was it needed a curfew.
It actually has not been that bad since the weekend. However, night-time is when the bad-actors come out (and the protestors go home). Those violent instigators are the real problem.
 
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Yes, I heard that being reported on the news. There's no reason for a simple passing comment like that to spark hostility. I'm your brother in Christ, not your mortal enemy.

...as are many illegal immigrants.
 
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Yep, mission accomplished. Well, maybe not over yet. Let's see which liberal city is the next target of Steven Miller's Home Depot raids.
ICE was spotted in our town and protesters came together in less than 30 minutes to block the interstate offramp to the area they were going to. It was pretty wild, lol.
 
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Bass herself told us how bad it was it needed a curfew. She was also concerned they may not be able to have the World Cup due to the destruction.

A curfew that applied to one square mile of downtown L.A. And by taking this step, the major was demontrating local authorties can and do take steps to restore order.

Say, are those Marines trained yet?
 
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...as are many illegal immigrants.
All people in the US, regardless of their actual or alleged immigration status, are afforded rights. This may shock you, but unmarked cars filled with masked people with no identification breaking down their doors, pulling them off the street, snagging them as they're in court...? That violates their rights as well as potentially the rights of those who are around them. They are ICE, not gestapo.
 
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