Multiple immigration sweeps reported across Los Angeles, with a tense standoff/protest downtown; SEIU union leader arrested

[BPPLEE]

Gosh, I didn't think that it would have been that difficult to work out that the answer is not to do what we've seen recently done.

If there are some bad guys that need deporting then go get them. You know, the ones that Trump said were being sent into the US from jails and mental asylums (I mean, who honestly believes that is true? Who would actually admit to being that dumb?).

Do not act like some quasi-military outfit that would be better suited to take down some drug lord and his henchmen. The guys being arrested - and sent who knows where, are working at Home Depot and diners for heaven's sake. Don't treat it like some black ops surgical strike in the Middle East complete with Marines as back up for heaven's sake.

And obey the courts. You know, the guys who are constantly telling Trump that he is to abide by due process. Follow the rules. Use the law as it should be used.

Well, you might have, but I haven't. I can walk and chew gum at the same time. But Trump treats most of you like a bunch of puppies. He'll toss you a nibble with one hand and ya'll scuttle off gnawing at the bone he's thrown you whilst with the other hand he's feeding the constitution into the shredder.

That should be the topic that needs to be discussed. Instead we have people trawling news sites to find the next instance of someone throwing a rock or some flames and spouting inanities along the lines of 'Well, I guess that you are supporting this'.

Don't let Trump drag you down to his levcel.

I don't think you support the violence but you downplay it, act like it's no big deal, other people on the thread do the same.
Americans support Trump sending the National Guard to LA 59% to 39%

 

[Bradskii]

I don't think you support the violence but you downplay it, act like it's no big deal, other people on the thread do the same.

I've barely commented on the violence. Because, and I have to keep saying this apparently, it's the result of actions by Trump. I'd rather address the cause. Otherwise...what? You want to me to condemn every single example of anything and everything that someone wants to post saying 'Oh my, this is terrible...but I guess that you support it'.

Americans support Trump sending the National Guard to LA 59% to 39%

Well, that makes it entirely OK I guess. But maybe we can have a Poll Wars and keep posting links. Like this one: New poll shows how Americans truly feel about Trump’s response to L.A. protests

So that's 15 all, your serve. But nah, I'll let you try to justify it. Maybe you've got another poll on prepping the Marines as well. Who knows. Well, who cares, actually. I certainly don't. All you're interested in is chasing those bones that Trump keeps throwing for you with his left hand so you don't see what he's doing with his right.

 

[BPPLEE]

I've barely commented on the violence. Because, and I have to keep saying this apparently, it's the result of actions by Trump. I'd rather address the cause. Otherwise...what? You want to me to condemn every single example of anything and everything that someone wants to post saying 'Oh my, this is terrible...but I guess that you support it'.

Well, that makes it entirely OK I guess. But maybe we can have a Poll Wars and keep posting links. Like this one: New poll shows how Americans truly feel about Trump’s response to L.A. protests

So that's 15 all, your serve. But nah, I'll let you try to justify it. Maybe you've got another poll on prepping the Marines as well. Who knows. Well, who cares, actually. I certainly don't. All you're interested in is chasing those bones that Trump keeps throwing for you with his left hand so you don't see what he's doing with his right.

I've already posted the poll I cited in the Real Clear Politics article

 

[Hans Blaster]

They're just backing up local law enforcement.
They're not arresting illegal immigrants or anyone else and they haven't participated in any ICE raids

Back in the day, would you have considered an outside force (like the NG) to be "backing you up" if they were confined to the parking lot of the county jail?

 

[bèlla]

There was a protest in Chicago today. I’m listening to a video about it and he said it was peaceful. But the crowd tried to move towards the area with stores and were prevented from doing so by police. A car drover through the crowd but no one was hurt but they had to move fast. I think it’s orchestrated much like we saw a few years ago.

~bella

 

[BCP1928]

Good for you. Others were. I wasnt terrorized on 911 either. I was a LONG way away from NY.

Have you ever attended a protest or demonstration before?

 

[BPPLEE]

Back in the day, would you have considered an outside force (like the NG) to be "backing you up" if they were confined to the parking lot of the county jail?

I would consider that they're not going on ICE raids, like I said and you called into question.
Now you want to move on to something else

 

[Hans Blaster]

I would consider that they're not going on ICE raids, like I said and you called into question.
Now you want to move on to something else

What exactly do you think these guardsmen are doing?

 

[BPPLEE]

What exactly do you think these guardsmen are doing?

Just standing there, they weren't there during any ICE raids that I'm aware of

 

[BCP1928]

What exactly do you think these guardsmen are doing?

They were bait, but the LAPD maneuvered so as to protect them from direct contact with the demonstrators so the trick didn't work. Next, active duty troops were moved in to up the temptation but by then the city-destroying riot had died down to the point were nothing happened to them.

 

[wing2000]

The NG prevented them from vandalizing federal buildings, which they tried to do. Mission accomplished.

Speculative.

 

[wing2000]

We knew who the left is and have known long before Trump. And have known the lefts agenda to destroy America as well.

And as we saw in LA, they aren't done.

We knew the right was always in favor of deploying America's military against its own citizens.

[See, I can play that silly game too]

 

[essentialsaltes]

Just standing there, they weren't there during any ICE raids that I'm aware of

They are now, per ICE.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

@ICEgov

Photos from today’s ICE Los Angeles immigration enforcement operation.

 

[BPPLEE]

They are now, per ICE.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

@ICEgov

Photos from today’s ICE Los Angeles immigration enforcement operation.

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Looks like they're just standing there. They are allowed to protect federal employees

 

[NxNW]

We knew the right was always in favor of deploying America's military against its own citizens.

Not to mention overthrowing the government and murdering the Vice President, as they tried to do on Jan 6.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Just standing there, they weren't there during any ICE raids that I'm aware of

In other words -- nothing.

 

[ozso]

Speculative.

It was in the news.

 

[wing2000]

It was in the news.

...then citing "the news" shoud not be a problem eh?

 

[ozso]

...then citing "the news" shoud not be a problem eh?

Yeah I should've saved it in anticipation of the usual challenge.

Okay here we go:

LA ICE raids: Protesters attempt to break into federal building | FOX 11 LA​

Next I'm expecting some version of 'that doesn't prove your claim'.

 

[bèlla]

I’ve watched clips from another source and it’s honestly ridiculous. They’re destroying property and looting and neither is necessary. Whether one agrees with the military’s presence or not this behavior cannot be allowed. If their lawlessness gets them hurt they have no one to blame but themselves and I won’t support them.

~bella