Video: Protesters throw rocks at CHP officers from LA freeway bridge

[wing2000]

LAPD Chief: We are overwhelmed as far as the number of people engaging in this type of activity and the types of things that they’re doing. They’ll take backpacks filled with cinder blocks and hammers, break the blocks, and pass the pieces around to throw at officers and cars, and even at other people. We’ve seen people with hammers breaking the bollards behind the federal building, using concrete fragments as projectiles. We’ve had unknown liquids—who knows what—thrown at officers. There’s no limit to what they’re doing to our officers.

Noting the LAPD Chief did not say they needed help from the Feds. Nor could they help. Federalized National Guard, (and active duty trrops) by law, are not permitted to perform police duties on US soil.

 

[ozso]

Have you not seen any of the videos?

There are plenty getting uploaded as youtube shorts and facebook posts.

How outnumbered do the regular police need to be, before it warrants the national guard getting involved?

'Our officers are really under attack,' LAPD chief says

LAPD Chief McDonnell decried the escalation of violence as "disgusting" as Molotov cocktails, fireworks, rocks and more were used to target officers.

abc7.com

Some things can not be glossed over.

 

[ozso]

Noting the LAPD Chief did not say they needed help from the Feds. Nor could they help. Federalized National Guard, (and active duty trrops) by law, are not permitted to perform police duties on US soil.

The first objective is to deter criminal activity by way of presence.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Noting the LAPD Chief did not say they needed help from the Feds. Nor could they help. Federalized National Guard, (and active duty trrops) by law, are not permitted to perform police duties on US soil.

There are exceptions to that rule... while they can't arrest people or seize property or conduct searches like a police officer can, they can help maintain order.


George HW Bush did so in 1992.

George W Bush also did so in the aftermath of 9/11.


It involves specific provisions pertaining to Title 10 (responses to terroristic activities), or invoking the Insurrection Act.


I'm actually interested if the administration will invoke the latter... By the progressives' own recent definition of what constitutes a "terrorist attack" and "insurrection", they may have boxed themselves into a corner in terms of being able to argue against the president invoking the Insurrection Act for a situation like this.


If assaulting a government building (in the name of preventing a legal process), while flying the flag of another nation, while making threats against elected officials fits the definition, then it would have to apply to this situation here.

In this instance, people are busting out windows of government buildings while flying Mexican Flags, attacking federal officers, and spray painting (and yelling) the message "Remove Trump's head!"

Replace the Mexican flags with confederate flags, replace ICE with capitol police, and replace "Remove Trump's Head" with "Hang Mike Pence", and the two sets of circumstances are starting to have some similarities.

 

[durangodawood]

There are exceptions to that rule... while they can't arrest people or seize property or conduct searches like a police officer can, they can help maintain order.


George HW Bush did so in 1992.

George W Bush also did so in the aftermath of 9/11.


It involves specific provisions pertaining to Title 10 (responses to terroristic activities), or invoking the Insurrection Act.


I'm actually interested if the administration will invoke the latter... By the progressives' own recent definition of what constitutes a "terrorist attack" and "insurrection", they may have boxed themselves into a corner in terms of being able to argue against the president invoking the Insurrection Act for a situation like this.


If assaulting a government building (in the name of preventing a legal process), while flying the flag of another nation, while making threats against elected officials fits the definition, then it would have to apply to this situation here.

In this instance, people are busting out windows of government buildings while flying Mexican Flags, attacking federal officers, and spray painting (and yelling) the message "Remove Trump's head!"

Replace the Mexican flags with confederate flags, replace ICE with capitol police, and replace "Remove Trump's Head" with "Hang Mike Pence", and the two sets of circumstances are starting to have some similarities.

The presidents actions should not be judged by what progressives say. Or what you say progressives say. Im interested in what makes sense, as you should be. Its absurd that this stuff is an "insurrection".

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The presidents actions should not be judged by what progressives say. Or what you say progressives say. Im interested in what makes sense, as you should be. Its absurd that this stuff is an "insurrection".

So trying to block/impede the exercising of legitimate federal powers while waving the flag of another country while saying you want to cut the president's head off is....what then? (if not fitting into either of the two aforementioned scenarios or terroristic or violent act of rebellion)

 

[durangodawood]

So trying to block/impede the exercising of legitimate federal powers while waving the flag of another country while saying you want to cut the president's head of is....what then? (if not fitting into either of the two aforementioned scenarios or terroristic or violent act of rebellion)

Generic violent protest of the sort thats a normal law enforcement concern. I dont see an actual attempt at insurrection underway.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/06/09/lapd_chief_we_are_overwhelmed_by_riots_no_limit_to_what_theyre_doing_to_our_officers.html

LAPD Chief: We are overwhelmed as far as the number of people engaging in this type of activity and the types of things that they’re doing. They’ll take backpacks filled with cinder blocks and hammers, break the blocks, and pass the pieces around to throw at officers and cars, and even at other people. We’ve seen people with hammers breaking the bollards behind the federal building, using concrete fragments as projectiles. We’ve had unknown liquids—who knows what—thrown at officers. There’s no limit to what they’re doing to our officers.



The fact that enforcing a law is considered "escalation" seems laughable.

"I know I'm throwing bricks...but you'd better not doing anything to try to stop me....because I'm virtuous and I'm angry, and I have every right to cause havoc...and if you do try and stop me, I'll just have to get even more mad and throw even more bricks because you're escalating things by trying to stop me from doing what I want"

At the time they were overwhelmed but the military was not needed at all to regain control of the crowd and calm things down. They were not requesting help from the federal government for crowd control. The military are literally not doing anything at all to help the situation here.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5340791-video-protesters-chp-officers-la-anti-ice-protests/

President Trump ordered the National Guard to Los Angeles to protect federal agents and assist local authorities, a move that local leaders have criticized as inflaming the situation. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has called their deployment a “serious breach of state sovereignty” and a “complete overreaction.”



There have been several other documented incidents of this happening as well

(not all of the cars getting hit appear to even be police cars, some of them are plain)


For anyone who's followed any of the other "on the ground" video captured by both reporters and regular citizens, the chaos seems to be a little more intense than some media outlets are reporting it to be. In the age of the smart phone and with how many independent citizens have recorded video of what's going on, the "mostly peaceful" angle is going to be a tougher sell on this one.


Gavin suggesting that sending in the national guard is "an overreaction" comes across with a little bit of this vibe
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And there is a bit of irony in some suggesting that sending in the national guard is what's "inflaming" the situation and not the...well... people literally setting flames to things.


It seems as if some democratic pundits want to discuss this the same way as an enabler for an abusive husband. Where the rioters aren't the ones at fault, but rather, it's the fact that they didn't get their way politically, so its the fault of others for doing something that made them really mad.

"It's my fault he punched me, if I would've had dinner ready on time, he wouldn't have gotten so mad"

Attempted murder. They should be shot on sight.

 

[Henrye]

At the time they were overwhelmed but the military was not needed at all to regain control of the crowd and calm things down. They were not requesting help from the federal government for crowd control. The military are literally not doing anything at all to help the situation here.ting

The NG and Marines are protecting federal property. It is up to the LAPD to protect the rest.

Newsom is guilty of dereliction of duty. Under title 32 the governor can use the NG for police actions to help the overwhelmed police but publicity is more important to him.

 

[rambot]

If the National Guard was not there, would LA still be like this?

 

[Henrye]

If the National Guard was not there, would LA still be like this?

LA has been a mess for quite a few years now.

 

[rambot]

LA has been a mess for quite a few years now.

If it's the same amount of "mess", then what are you complaining about?

 

[Henrye]

If it's the same amount of "mess", then what are you complaining about?

Because the article is about the chief of police of LA being overwhelmed. He is receiving no help whatsoever from Newson. What did you assume I was saying?

 

[NxNW]

Enforcing immigration laws makes people mad, and some will lash out violently about it, so we should just not enforce immigration laws?

Maybe ICE should arresting the wrong people, and stop setting cars on fire.

 

[NxNW]

So trying to block/impede the exercising of legitimate federal powers while waving the flag of another country while saying you want to cut the president's head off is....what then?

It's something you made up.

 

[NxNW]

Attempted murder. They should be shot on sight.

Are you talking about the Jan6 rioters?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It's something you made up.

Nope, it's right there in the LA Times article...

MSN

 

[ThatRobGuy]

If the National Guard was not there, would LA still be like this?

Seems like the "status quo" fallacy.

If violence increases as a result of a response to a law getting enforced, that doesn't mean the law shouldn't be enforced.

It's like saying "We can't arrest this prominent Mafia member, because the people in the neighborhood actually like him, and they'll start breaking stuff if we apprehend him"


Why is there almost never any onus placed on the left-wing protestors to not escalate things? It always seems to be a "let them do whatever they want, law enforcement stepping in is just escalating things"

 

[rambot]

Seems like the "status quo" fallacy.

If violence increases as a result of a response to a law getting enforced, that doesn't mean the law shouldn't be enforced.

I'm pretty sure the issue is "how the law is getting enforced" that people take exception to. Also pretty sure that's been said a few dozen times.

Why is there almost never any onus placed on the left-wing protestors to not escalate things? It always seems to be a "let them do whatever they want, law enforcement stepping in is just escalating things"

I wonder if the answer to that question is at all related to the 94% of left wing protests that happenned during the BLM protests that always get ignored.

Why is it that SO many left wing protests do NOT escalate into things?

Any idea Rob? Are NG at ALL those rallies? Will the NG show up at all of the upcoming "No Kings" rallies that will take place across the country?