Video: Protesters throw rocks at CHP officers from LA freeway bridge

[ThatRobGuy]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5340791-video-protesters-chp-officers-la-anti-ice-protests/

President Trump ordered the National Guard to Los Angeles to protect federal agents and assist local authorities, a move that local leaders have criticized as inflaming the situation. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has called their deployment a “serious breach of state sovereignty” and a “complete overreaction.”



There have been several other documented incidents of this happening as well

(not all of the cars getting hit appear to even be police cars, some of them are plain)


For anyone who's followed any of the other "on the ground" video captured by both reporters and regular citizens, the chaos seems to be a little more intense than some media outlets are reporting it to be. In the age of the smart phone and with how many independent citizens have recorded video of what's going on, the "mostly peaceful" angle is going to be a tougher sell on this one.


Gavin suggesting that sending in the national guard is "an overreaction" comes across with a little bit of this vibe

And there is a bit of irony in some suggesting that sending in the national guard is what's "inflaming" the situation and not the...well... people literally setting flames to things.


It seems as if some democratic pundits want to discuss this the same way as an enabler for an abusive husband. Where the rioters aren't the ones at fault, but rather, it's the fact that they didn't get their way politically, so its the fault of others for doing something that made them really mad.

"It's my fault he punched me, if I would've had dinner ready on time, he wouldn't have gotten so mad"

 

[durangodawood]

"Several other documented incidents."

Not necessarily the total breakdown of civil order youre selling.

 

[Paulos23]

There are always people who use these demonstrations as an excuse to try to cause violence or stir trouble. It is not widespread.

 

[BCP1928]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5340791-video-protesters-chp-officers-la-anti-ice-protests/

President Trump ordered the National Guard to Los Angeles to protect federal agents and assist local authorities, a move that local leaders have criticized as inflaming the situation. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has called their deployment a “serious breach of state sovereignty” and a “complete overreaction.”



There have been several other documented incidents of this happening as well

(not all of the cars getting hit appear to even be police cars, some of them are plain)


For anyone who's followed any of the other "on the ground" video captured by both reporters and regular citizens, the chaos seems to be a little more intense than some media outlets are reporting it to be. In the age of the smart phone and with how many independent citizens have recorded video of what's going on, the "mostly peaceful" angle is going to be a tougher sell on this one.


Gavin suggesting that sending in the national guard is "an overreaction" comes across with a little bit of this vibe
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And there is a bit of irony in some suggesting that sending in the national guard is what's "inflaming" the situation and not the...well... people literally setting flames to things.


It seems as if some democratic pundits want to discuss this the same way as an enabler for an abusive husband. Where the rioters aren't the ones at fault, but rather, it's the fact that they didn't get their way politically, so its the fault of others for doing something that made them really mad.

"It's my fault he punched me, if I would've had dinner ready on time, he wouldn't have gotten so mad"

"They didn't get their way politically." That's pretty lame, Rob, and nobody's buying it. Can't you be more creative? All you really have to do is make up something that proves the protesters are protesting against deporting illegals in principle, rather than against the manner in which the administration is carrying it out. Your side needs you to do better.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

"They didn't get their way politically." That's pretty lame, Rob, and nobody's buying it. Can't you be more creative? All you really have to do is make up something that proves the protesters are protesting against deporting illegals in principle, rather than against the manner in which the administration is carrying it out. Your side needs you to do better.

Nobody's buying what?

The actual video footage of dozens of squad cars trapped under an overpass with hundreds of people on the bridge shouting "F the police" while some of them throw rocks and bricks down at the officers and cars?


We discussed in another thread...what is your alternative to ICE raids/sweeps targeting people who have either had final removal orders or absentia removals orders?

Are you expecting them to send 3 day written notices to people saying "hey, we'll be coming by this address to pick you up since you no-showed your last 3 hearings...whatever you do, don't go into hiding or destroy anything incriminating, and certainly don't warn your friends... see you on Thursday"

And again, I wasn't a Trump voter, so Trump isn't "my side"...but likewise, I don't think "opposing anything and everything Trump wants to do that isn't sufficiently progressive" is a virtue either.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

"Several other documented incidents."

Not necessarily the total breakdown of civil order youre selling.

Have you not seen any of the videos?

There are plenty getting uploaded as youtube shorts and facebook posts.

How outnumbered do the regular police need to be, before it warrants the national guard getting involved?

'Our officers are really under attack,' LAPD chief says

LAPD Chief McDonnell decried the escalation of violence as "disgusting" as Molotov cocktails, fireworks, rocks and more were used to target officers.

abc7.com

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I think I saw more destruction after the Dodgers won the series last year than what has come out of the three days of “mayhem” this past weekend.

At no point was LAPD outnumbered by the rioters to where they needed the military to intervene. Indeed, it was LAPD, the LA County Sheriffs and CHP who got everyone off the freeway and contained to a small part of downtown.

The rest of us Angelenos, if you avoided the 101 in downtown, which is a parking lot on a good day, and you stayed away from the one corner by the federal building and central jail where there is nothing to do there anyways, you wouldn’t even notice there was anything going on in LA. Just across the city there were pride parades and people out enjoying the lovely weather we’ve been having lately.

Deploying NG and marines is a complete overreaction and provocation from an administration that is openly hostile toward the people of this city and state.

This, coming after his total under reaction when it was a mob of his own supporters storming the Capitol to invalidate a national election.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

There are always people who use these demonstrations as an excuse to try to cause violence or stir trouble. It is not widespread.

Downtown LA, Westlake, Paramount, Little Tokyo

Over 100 arrests (which means the number of criminal activities is much higher than that, as not everyone in a face mask throwing a brick gets caught arrested)
Violent clashes with police
Dozens of cars burned or smashed up with rocks/bricks


How big or "widespread" does it need to get?

Does it need to get 1990's levels where random truckers are getting pulled out and bricked over the head, and Korean business owners are setting up sniping positions on the roof?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Have you not seen any of the videos?

There are plenty getting uploaded as youtube shorts and facebook posts.

We've seen the videos including the violence from both "sides".

How outnumbered do the regular police need to be, before it warrants the national guard getting involved?

That's up to the Governor to deploy the NG. No amount of NG is going to make the investigation of protestor violence go faster.

'Our officers are really under attack,' LAPD chief says

LAPD Chief McDonnell decried the escalation of violence as "disgusting" as Molotov cocktails, fireworks, rocks and more were used to target officers.

abc7.com

 

[durangodawood]

Have you not seen any of the videos?

There are plenty getting uploaded as youtube shorts and facebook posts.

How outnumbered do the regular police need to be, before it warrants the national guard getting involved?

'Our officers are really under attack,' LAPD chief says

LAPD Chief McDonnell decried the escalation of violence as "disgusting" as Molotov cocktails, fireworks, rocks and more were used to target officers.

abc7.com

Its easy to sensationalize from this and that videos. Ive seen it before in disasters and similar. Not saying it inst happening exactly as you describe. But some good reporting is required to actually know, unless youre there or have friends there.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I think I saw more destruction after the Dodgers won the series last year than what has come out of the three days of “mayhem” this past weekend.

At no point was LAPD outnumbered by the rioters to where they needed the military to intervene. Indeed, it was LAPD, the LA County Sheriffs and CHP who got everyone off the freeway and contained to a small part of downtown.

The rest of us Angelenos, if you avoided the 101 in downtown, which is a parking lot on a good day, and you stayed away from the one corner by the federal building and central jail where there is nothing to do there anyways, you wouldn’t even notice there was anything going on in LA. Just across the city there were pride parades and people out enjoying the lovely weather we’ve been having lately.

Deploying NG and marines is a complete overreaction and provocation from an administration that is openly hostile toward the people of this city and state.

This, coming after his total under reaction when it was a mob of his own supporters storming the Capitol to invalidate a national election.

So the LA Times is exaggerating then?

Downtown L.A. hit by widespread vandalism, damage as city struggles to calm unrest

An ugly night of vandalism, burglaries and clashes in downtown Los Angeles left city officials struggling to get the upper hand after three days of scattered unrest over immigration raids.

www.latimes.com

Non-paywall version of the LA Times article

MSN

 

[durangodawood]

So the LA Times is exaggerating then?

Id say not.

"While most of the problems occurred within a few blocks, they have taken on worldwide attention after President Trump deployed the National Guard to L.A."

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Id say not.

...and thoughts on the rest of the descriptions in the article? (apart from the few snippets of quotes from people trying to downplay it)

 

[GoldenBoy89]

So the LA Times is exaggerating then?

Downtown L.A. hit by widespread vandalism, damage as city struggles to calm unrest

An ugly night of vandalism, burglaries and clashes in downtown Los Angeles left city officials struggling to get the upper hand after three days of scattered unrest over immigration raids.

www.latimes.com

Non-paywall version of the LA Times article

MSN

No, I think the people who believe the military needed to get involved are exaggerating. None of the local or state law enforcement have stated they were being overrun to the point they needed the NG to step in. That was a provocation from the president against the governor’s requests to not escalate things.

 

[durangodawood]

...and thoughts on the rest of the descriptions in the article? (apart from the few snippets of quotes from people trying to downplay it)

Sounds awful. But it doesnt sounds like the whole city is breaking down. Im curious what the Nat Guard is bringing to the scene. Are they cracking heads and arresting people?

It got Elon Musk off the front page. So that mission was accomplished for sure.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

...and thoughts on the rest of the descriptions in the article? (apart from the few snippets of quotes from people trying to downplay it)

Do you live here? Because I do and I don’t need you or the LA times to tell me what I can drive 20 minutes right now and go see for myself. For the nearly 20 million people living here in So Cal, things were much more peaceful before Trump’s goon squads starting going around raiding local establishments and arresting peaceful people and terrorizing our communities just to hit his sick quota of deportations.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

For the nearly 20 million people living here in So Cal, things were much more peaceful before Trump’s goon squads starting going around raiding local establishments and arresting peaceful people and terrorizing our communities just to hit his sick quota of deportations.

But isn't that a logical fallacy?

"things were calmer when certain groups of people were allowed to break certain laws, the enforcement of certain laws is making a subset of people really mad...therefore, we should've just let them keep breaking those laws"


Is that the rationale?

Enforcing immigration laws makes people mad, and some will lash out violently about it, so we should just not enforce immigration laws?

 

[wing2000]

Downtown LA, Westlake, Paramount, Little Tokyo

Over 100 arrests (which means the number of criminal activities is much higher than that, as not everyone in a face mask throwing a brick gets caught arrested)
Violent clashes with police
Dozens of cars burned or smashed up with rocks/bricks

Good. I trust the LAPD and other local law enforcement will arrest the perps and be prosecuted.

btw, where are you getting "dozens of cars"?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

No, I think the people who believe the military needed to get involved are exaggerating. None of the local or state law enforcement have stated they were being overrun to the point they needed the NG to step in. That was a provocation from the president against the governor’s requests to not escalate things.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/06/09/lapd_chief_we_are_overwhelmed_by_riots_no_limit_to_what_theyre_doing_to_our_officers.html

LAPD Chief: We are overwhelmed as far as the number of people engaging in this type of activity and the types of things that they’re doing. They’ll take backpacks filled with cinder blocks and hammers, break the blocks, and pass the pieces around to throw at officers and cars, and even at other people. We’ve seen people with hammers breaking the bollards behind the federal building, using concrete fragments as projectiles. We’ve had unknown liquids—who knows what—thrown at officers. There’s no limit to what they’re doing to our officers.



The fact that enforcing a law is considered "escalation" seems laughable.

"I know I'm throwing bricks...but you'd better not doing anything to try to stop me....because I'm virtuous and I'm angry, and I have every right to cause havoc...and if you do try and stop me, I'll just have to get even more mad and throw even more bricks because you're escalating things by trying to stop me from doing what I want"

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Good. I trust the LAPD and other local law enforcement will arrest the perps and be prosecuted.

btw, where are you getting "dozens of cars"?

There was at least 5 of them on fire in the videos I've seen... (thankfully 3 of them were unmanned waymo self-driving vehicles that had nobody in them)

And there were a bunch of squad cars under the bridge that were getting hit with bricks, and I saw at least another 10 get bricks at the window in the 2nd video I linked that was outside the Home Depot. (and that was just in the 44 seconds that the video was recorded, they'd clearly been out there for a while)