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BREAKING: 'Targeted Terror Attack' Hits Boulder, Colorado, During Pro-Israel Gathering

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Of course! Another liberal Judge appointed by Biden...who woulda guessed? :rolleyes:
This is absolutely ridiculous. This entire family is here illegally. Islamism is a family thing. There is absolutely NO reason for this family to be here. None. Get them in front of an immigration judge tomorrow and then deport them by Saturday. The deportation does not have to have ANYTHING to do with what the terrorist did. The only reason we need is the fact that they are here illegally.
 
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This is absolutely ridiculous. This entire family is here illegally. Islamism is a family thing. There is absolutely NO reason for this family to be here. None. Get them in front of an immigration judge tomorrow and then deport them by Saturday. The deportation does not have to have ANYTHING to do with what the terrorist did. The only reason we need is the fact that they are here illegally.
The family entered the country on a visa and applied for asylum. They are in the country legally.
 
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We’re not going to do that Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Saudi Arabia is well known to have produced terrorists that killed Americans. Let's ban them too. I would support that. Isrealis are fighting terrorism and are not coming here and killing Americans in terrorism.
 
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I guess every anti semitic psychopath has a partial excuse with Gaza. If our borders had been more secure and less internationalism, it is likely that Americans would not be attacked like this in their own nation.
If things were different from what they are, then what is, wouldn't have been.
 
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The family entered the country on a visa and applied for asylum. They are in the country legally.
No they aren't. This is just another example of the abuse of the asylum system. An Islamic family from Egypt? This family should face the judges tomorrow and be on a plane Saturday back to Egypt.
 
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No they aren't. This is just another example of the abuse of the asylum system. An Islamic family from Egypt? This family should face the judges tomorrow and be on a plane Saturday back to Egypt.
Your opinion doesn't change their immigration status.
 
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If things were different from what they are, then what is, wouldn't have been.
Yes if Hamas never attacked Israel...things might be different!
 
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No they aren't. This is just another example of the abuse of the asylum system. An Islamic family from Egypt? This family should face the judges tomorrow and be on a plane Saturday back to Egypt.
Yes they are. Even if they are "abusing" the law, they are here legally. If you want to try and deport them you should do that legally, too, even if you are doing it because you hate Islam.
 
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If things were different from what they are, then what is, wouldn't have been.
If the laws were properly enforced the often cherished due process would already have been administered. Negligence seems to create a catch 22 for another administration trying to clean up a previous mess even if it could be done better.
 
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It doesn't matter. As long as he and his family have a pending asylum claim, they are in the country legally.
They don't have an asylum visa...and will not likely get one now...
 
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If the laws were properly enforced the often cherished due process would already have been administered.
Which law was improperly enforced, in this case?
Negligence seems to create a catch 22 for another administration trying to clean up a previous mess even if it could be done better.
In this case, the time to deport this man was three months ago - bad Biden! There has long been a desperate shortage of immigration judges to handle/expedite these cases.

The Atlantic: Trump Tries to Blame the Colorado Attack on ‘Open Border’ Policies
The administration’s labeling of Soliman as an “illegal alien” is a mischaracterization of the gray area he inhabited in the U.S. asylum system, in which applicants can spend years in legal limbo waiting for their case to be decided. He arrived in 2022 not over the southern border, as Trump suggested, but on a visa that was also widely given out to Egyptian nationals during Trump’s first term. The administration has not said what exactly it believes the Biden administration failed to catch in vetting Soliman’s visa application.​
 
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Continued from above:

Soliman’s work-authorization document expired in March, according to DHS, and it’s not clear why he failed to renew it. The lapse meant that it would have been illegal for Soliman to work, but the change would not have affected his immigration status, which was tied to his pending asylum claim and not to the work document, according to Paul Hunker, the former lead counsel for ICE in Dallas.

...A month before that, after an arson attack at the Pennsylvania governor’s mansion on the first night of Passover, Trump’s response was delayed and muted. He made no Truth Social post, waited a week to call Governor Josh Shapiro—a Democrat angling to be one of the party’s leading Trump critics–—and dismissed the suspect as “probably just a whack job” without assigning any sort of blame. That response was not atypical for Trump, who has been slow to denounce political violence against Democrats (such as the attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband, an assault that Trump later turned into a punch line at his rallies) or committed in his name (the January 6 insurrection).

...Yesterday, in Colorado, U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher blocked the Trump administration from immediately deporting Soliman’s wife, Hayam El Gamal, and their children, ordering ICE to follow standard due process. Gallagher, a Biden appointee, has scheduled a hearing for June 13. ICE records show that El Gamal and her children are being held at a family-detention center in Dilley, Texas.​

Should Soliman's family be punished for Soliman's deed?
 
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Continued from above:

Soliman’s work-authorization document expired in March, according to DHS, and it’s not clear why he failed to renew it. The lapse meant that it would have been illegal for Soliman to work, but the change would not have affected his immigration status, which was tied to his pending asylum claim and not to the work document, according to Paul Hunker, the former lead counsel for ICE in Dallas.​
...A month before that, after an arson attack at the Pennsylvania governor’s mansion on the first night of Passover, Trump’s response was delayed and muted. He made no Truth Social post, waited a week to call Governor Josh Shapiro—a Democrat angling to be one of the party’s leading Trump critics–—and dismissed the suspect as “probably just a whack job” without assigning any sort of blame. That response was not atypical for Trump, who has been slow to denounce political violence against Democrats (such as the attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband, an assault that Trump later turned into a punch line at his rallies) or committed in his name (the January 6 insurrection).​
...Yesterday, in Colorado, U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher blocked the Trump administration from immediately deporting Soliman’s wife, Hayam El Gamal, and their children, ordering ICE to follow standard due process. Gallagher, a Biden appointee, has scheduled a hearing for June 13. ICE records show that El Gamal and her children are being held at a family-detention center in Dilley, Texas.​

Should Soliman's family be punished for Soliman's deed?
Just from the posts in this thread one would have to assume that the Christian position is that all Muslims are guilty by commonality of religion for crimes committed by any one of them.
 
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Which law was improperly enforced, in this case?

In this case, the time to deport this man was three months ago - bad Biden! There has long been a desperate shortage of immigration judges to handle/expedite these cases.

The Atlantic: Trump Tries to Blame the Colorado Attack on ‘Open Border’ Policies
The administration’s labeling of Soliman as an “illegal alien” is a mischaracterization of the gray area he inhabited in the U.S. asylum system, in which applicants can spend years in legal limbo waiting for their case to be decided. He arrived in 2022 not over the southern border, as Trump suggested, but on a visa that was also widely given out to Egyptian nationals during Trump’s first term. The administration has not said what exactly it believes the Biden administration failed to catch in vetting Soliman’s visa application.​
It sounds like they have legal status because of inefficiency. Why wasn’t their asylum status determined before issuing him work permits? If their asylum status was established then so be it. Then we can still ask why someone granted asylum would try to murder innocent people in a nation that granted asylum to begin with. So for 2 years he was promptly given a work permit but they couldn’t determine the asylum status.

Per the NY Post:


The family first arrived in the US from Kuwait in August 2022, but were only allowed to stay until February 2023, the Department of Homeland Security said Wednesday.

Soliman, a 45-year-old Egyptian national, filed for asylum a month after arriving, and listed his wife and their five children as dependents in Denver, according to the department.

He was also granted a work authorization in March 2023 that expired this past March.


 
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Just from the posts in this thread one would have to assume that the Christian position is that all Muslims are guilty by commonality of religion for crimes committed by any one of them.

Good grief
 
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