BREAKING: 'Targeted Terror Attack' Hits Boulder, Colorado, During Pro-Israel Gathering

[ThatRobGuy]

Mohamed said he wanted them to all die and that was the plan, he said he would go back and do it again and had no regret doing what he did. Mohamed said anyone who supports the exist of Israel on "our land" is Zionist. Mohamed clarified "our Land" was Palestine.

His rationale isn't a unique one with regards to people from that region.

But for the people who hold his same viewpoint, they give some rather contradictory statements at time, or present some statements that have some rather large logic gaps.

They'll often say "this isn't about Jewish people, it's just about Israel existing on land that we think should be ours"

Yet, the basis of "Jews need to have a safe haven in their ancestral land" was partially predicated on the fact that every other country was subjecting them to second-class treatment our flat out expelling them in droves when they tried to exist in other countries in the region.

For for people who object to Israel's existence in the form of them having their own country, where exactly do they want them to go?

They tried living spread out in Iraq, Yemen, Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Lebanon, Syria, and Libya... it wasn't working out too well.


If they're going to insist that they don't want them living in other Arab countries due to religious/cultural clashes, and they don't want them having their own piece of land the size of New Jersey to inhabit, and they're going to reject two-state proposals... Then they need to put forth an alternative idea of their own. And "wipe them out" isn't gonna fly, and neither is "they should be content to live as dhimmi in Muslim countries"

Among the "anti-Zionist" ilk, that's the one question I've yet to hear answered

 

[BCP1928]

His rationale isn't a unique one with regards to people from that region.

But for the people who hold his same viewpoint, they give some rather contradictory statements at time, or present some statements that have some rather large logic gaps.

They'll often say "this isn't about Jewish people, it's just about Israel existing on land that we think should be ours"

Yet, the basis of "Jews need to have a safe haven in their ancestral land" was partially predicated on the fact that every other country was subjecting them to second-class treatment our flat out expelling them in droves when they tried to exist in other countries in the region.

For for people who object to Israel's existence in the form of them having their own country, where exactly do they want them to go?

They tried living spread out in Iraq, Yemen, Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Lebanon, Syria, and Libya... it wasn't working out too well.


If they're going to insist that they don't want them living in other Arab countries due to religious/cultural clashes, and they don't want them having their own piece of land the size of New Jersey to inhabit, and they're going to reject two-state proposals... Then they need to put forth an alternative idea of their own. And "wipe them out" isn't gonna fly, and neither is "they should be content to live as dhimmi in Muslim countries"

Among the "anti-Zionist" ilk, that's the one question I've yet to hear answered

How did Muslims, Christians and Jews manage to live together in Palestine all those centuries before the Mandate? Why did Jews throughout the Middle ages see Palestine as a place of refuge from the pogroms of Europe? Why did tens of thousands flee to Palestine during the Reconquista? Kind of a dumb thing to do if all the Muslims there were going to kill them. Oh, and as to that, why did the Muslims wait so long to start the killing? It's not like they didn't have the opportunity--Christian Europe didn't seem to have much difficulty doing it at any time.

 

[BCP1928]

I have placed you on ignore. It's not treasonous sedition to believe Jews have a right to live in Israel.

They originally had just the same right to live there as the Muslim Palestinians and they did.

They've been there, you can't ask them to leave and so they have every right to be exactly where they are.

Since that's your definition of a traitor to America - not Palestine - then you and I will never have anything to discuss again.

I've already hit the ignore button. You can do whatever I thought it polite to point out.

 

[essentialsaltes]

so the Arabs escalated it and Israel finished it...

Nations bordering Israel escalated tensions
but Israel started the war

 

[rjs330]

Did the Biden admin fail to pass along the intel that this guy was a terrorist? Now that would be bad.

No, but if he had been deported when he was illegal the first time he wouldn't have been here right now murdering our citizens. This is precisely why illegals need to be deported.

 

[rjs330]

Mohamed said he wanted them to all die and that was the plan, he said he would go back and do it again and had no regret doing what he did. Mohamed said anyone who supports the exist of Israel on "our land" is Zionist. Mohamed clarified "our Land" was Palestine.

Yeah we can't have Amy of those dirty Jews in the area. From rhe Rjver to the Sea they chant. He's just another Jew hater. And so is anyone who tries to tell us we need to understand them.

There is no understanding the evil cult of death that exists with these people.

 

[rjs330]

They originally had just the same right to live there as the Muslim Palestinians and they did.

And the Palestinians were invited to live with and in Israel. And those who did decide to live in Israel were allowed to keep their land and become citizens.

The rest of the Palestinians decided, along with the other Arabs that it was more important to destroy them rather than live peacefully with them.

 

[durangodawood]

No, but if he had been deported when he was illegal the first time he wouldn't have been here right now murdering our citizens. This is precisely why illegals need to be deported.

He overstayed a 2 year work visa as I understand.

As for the rest of "illegals", are they murdering our citizens at greater rate than citizens are?

 

[rjs330]

Nations bordering Israel escalated tensions
but Israel started the war

Nope, they started the war. Its just that Israel was smart enough not to wait for the Arabs to launch the first military strike. If only the Europeans and the US could have launched the strike against Germany first we probably would have prevented Germany from taking over Europe.

Israel's strike prevented the Arabs from launching the full scale attack that was coming.

 

[rjs330]

He overstayed a 2 year work visa as I understand.

As for the rest of "illegals", are they murdering our citizens at greater rate than citizens are?

He shouldn't have had the visa. He was illegal.

As for your second question, I dont care. We have to put up with our citizens committing crime. We DON'T have to put up with illegals committing crime. Which every single one of them has done.

 

[durangodawood]

He shouldn't have had the visa. He was illegal.

Oh I see. He was given the work visa while he was here illegally.

As for your second question, I dont care. We have to put up with our citizens committing crime. We DON'T have to put up with illegals committing crime. Which every single one of them has done.

I think it does matter. if "Illegals" are less likely to murder people, then the more we have, the lower the murder rate goes - which would be a good thing. But if its the other way around, then I get your point.

 

[JosephZ]

Yeah we can't have Amy of those dirty Jews in the area. From rhe Rjver to the Sea they chant. He's just another Jew hater. And so is anyone who tries to tell us we need to understand them.

There is no understanding the evil cult of death that exists with these people.

He said his attack had nothing to do with the Jewish community.

 

[rjs330]

As far as I am concerned, any American who insists that the State of Israel "has more claim" based on some promise that was allegedly made thousands of years ago, and that our Isareli policy should reflect that is a traitor to his county and an enemy of Christ.

Lol......looks through post...... nope didn't say anything about the promised land.

But since YOU decided to bring up the subject, it was Christ that promised to land to them since Christ is God and God made the promise.

But, if you dont actually believe in that, Israel STILL has the greater claim to to their historical ownership long before the current crop of Palestinians.

But ALL land occupied by ANY country is conquered land. It was conquered at some point by someone. So the argument that this land somehow is stolen is a stupid argument in light of history.

If you conquer a land then you need to defend it. And Israel was given the land and they are holding onto it. The Palestinians could have had their own land and country as well and turned it down. There could be peace right now in the middle east, but the Arabs in the area dont want that.

 

[durangodawood]

....
But ALL land occupied by ANY country is conquered land. It was conquered at some point by someone. So the argument that this land somehow is stolen is a stupid argument in light of history.

If you conquer a land then you need to defend it.....

This goes for anything really. If you use violence to steal a thing, its yours so long as you can use violence to hold on to it.

 

[rjs330]

Oh I see. He was given the work visa while he was here illegally.

I think it does matter. if "Illegals" are less likely to murder people, then the more we have, the lower the murder rate goes - which would be a good thing. But if its the other way around, then I get your point.

Yup thats what happened.

We actually have no idea if illegals are less likely to murder people, because we dont actually have a mechanism around the US to track rhe crime illegals are committing. Your position is extremely unsubstantiated. Unless every jurisdiction in every state logs every single arrestee as legal or illegal, you have no reliable information.

But even if you are correct, its irrelevant. Illegals like this guy are killing Americans. Americans are dead or seriously injured who wouldn't have been if it weren't for the illegals who have been allowed in by Biden and his crew.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Nope, they started the war. Its just that Israel was smart enough not to wait for the Arabs to launch the first military strike. If only the Europeans and the US could have launched the strike against Germany first

I think the Germans saw the French had started the war by massing their armies and weapons systems along the Maginot line on the German border and was smart enough not to wait.

 

[rjs330]

This goes for anything really. If you use violence to steal a thing, its yours so long as you can use violence to hold on to it.

Thats true. But we are talking about the context of nations.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Oh I see. He was given the work visa while he was here illegally.

Although Stephen Miller didn't mention it, the perp had applied for asylum, which had yet to be adjudicated. Under those circumstances aliens can get a work permit.

 

[durangodawood]

.....But even if you are correct, its irrelevant. Illegals like this guy are killing Americans. Americans are dead or seriously injured who wouldn't have been if it weren't for the illegals who have been allowed in by Biden and his crew.

You are safer where the murder rate is lower. So it matters whether people living here are more or less likely to murder on average. If new people move in who are less likely to murder, then as a population we are safer.

But I dont actually know if immigrants - legal or otherwise - are more or less likely to murder. Thats why I asked.

I could see your argument for, say, not letting in Italians, because some of them are gonna shoot someone sooner or later. Had we not let in Italians those victims would be alive.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Nations bordering Israel escalated tensions
but Israel started the war

It was much more than escalating tensions. Israel made a preemptive strike...they did not precipitate the war.