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Do Liberals Believe No One Is Above The Law.

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It's not a game. It's intellectual honesty. If you make a claim, you have a responsibility to support the claim. It's called burden of proof.
I didn’t make the claim! That was done by law enforcement.
You say the videos are "clear" and "obvious." Yet, there are plenty of reports of people who saw the opposite. How is it that two groups can look at the same evidence, which is supposed to be clear and obvious, and have two different perspectives?
Yes there are people that argue black is white, right is wrong, and evil is good . But charges have been filed and we are past mine and your opinion.
First, I'm not a liberal.
Sure fooled me.

Second, I didn't deny that a crime took place. I simply held your feet to the fire over the claims you made.
Na you just want to argue the point. My feet are fine.
 
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You know who is a criminal? Trump. He was charged, tried, and convicted. He is a felon.
Enjoy it while you can ! That kangaroo court conviction will be overturned! You can take that to the bank! For a non liberal you sure do regurgitate the liberal talking points.
 
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Trump is a convicted felon.
The wheels of justice are turning. Your glorying in a jury conviction will be short lived. So have your felon party quickly it is about to be over. This so called conviction was a travesty of justice. Nothing about it was legal or fair. This document points out the many errors that will get the conviction overturned.
 
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There is certainly a strong level of tribalism in liberal and conservative circles. I would hope that both groups would free themselves from this and adhere to the rule of law.

Granted, we see Trump handing out pardons right and right. Being the president seems to be a rather profitable business, so long as one acts "officially."
This is rich (about Trump) considering our nation was almost at the precipice of destruction for 4 years being led by a sick man who actually was not really leading. No one is above the law is a truth, not tribalism.
 
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Actually the nation is undergoing judicial activism, coup. The "other" party could not beat us at the ballot box so they now are using liberal judges to try and stop MAGA. There is a Deep State, judicial coup happening before our very eyes.
 
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The Judge already ruled on this.
Not all judges are through with this.
And he remains a felon.
Like I said this is not over. This political prosecution and conviction will be overturned. So much was done wrong in this case by a rogue politically biased judge and DA. It is blatant hypocrisy to watch liberals support this travesty of justice all the while claiming support for the constitution and rule of law.
 
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Do you understand why I cited Wikipedia? There are subtle clues in my post. What might be my reasoning? And when you understand my reasoning, you'll be at the start of a journey for understanding why your response is nonstarter.
Why so cryptic? Subtle clues do not make Wikipedia credible.
That's immaterial to the fact that MAGA is the deep state.
This is an absurd charge.
Just more liberal rhetoric.
 
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I am not citing Wikipedia as a source of truth or authority. I am simply citing it as an example of a definition for deep state which is in use and happens to be more or less consistent with my own.

Wikipedia is actually inconsequential to my argument.

The fact that both of you are fixated on Wikipedia demonstrates that you don't actually get the argument and/or choose to ignore the substance of the argument.

The fact remains. MAGA is the deep state.

And by the way, I'm not liberal. Nor do I drink the MAGA Kool Aid.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.....,,
 
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I am not citing Wikipedia as a source of truth or authority. I am simply citing it as an example of a definition for deep state which is in use and happens to be more or less consistent with my own.
Well you both are wrong! But I am glad you find comfort in Wikipedia agreeing with you.
 
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Well here is the old school definition of liberalism

Old School Definition: In its older, traditional sense, liberalism emphasizes individual freedom and rights, limited government, and free markets. This "old school" view prioritizes individual autonomy and self-responsibility, with the government's role primarily limited to protecting individual liberties and ensuring a fair playing field in the economy.

Yes liberals believe in law and order...but what every the left has become today its not liberal.
 
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I tend toward a moderate mix of conservative, liberal, and libertarian in my views. It's that libertarian streak which really causes me to push hard against MAGA because of its authoritarian bent. So, that's probably why you mistake my views for liberal.
No mistake here. You exhibit an obvious hatred for Trump and an erroneous view of MAGA. It is absolute nonsense to characterize MAGA as “authoritarian “ after we have all just witnessed the last four years of an incompetent President being used by a real authoritarian party as a puppet by unelected people running the government behind the scenes while lying to the American people. Not to mention installing Kamala as a candidate without anyone in her party voting for her. I am not impressed by your views on MAGA or authoritarianism because you seem to be oblivious to actual facts.
Major Premise
If MAGA controls the FBI and CIA and is working in concert with a clandestine network of leaders in the financial and industrial sectors, then MAGA is the deep state.

Minor Premise
MAGA controls the FBI and CIA and is working in concert with a clandestine network of leaders in the financial and industrial sectors.

Conclusion
Therefore, MAGA is the deep state.
This is absolute nonsense. There was a deep state long before there was a MAGA and this opinion of yours on this is completely without factual merit. There still is a deep state that is invested in opposing Trump on every hand and you my friend fit that definition far more than MAGA! The deep state is currently at war with Trump but in the past they were at war with anyone who challenges their “authoritarian “ power. John Kennedy was a victim of the deep state. The MAGA movement and Trump are our current hope of eliminating this cancer from our government.
 
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