Former Biden diplomat says there’s ‘no question’ that ‘free Palestine’ slogan has become a call for violence

[DaisyDay]

You asked a question, and I provided an answer. So do what you want with it.

The question asked was "Is that the same as "Stop the Genocide" or "Free Palestine?" You answered a question, just not the one I asked. Thanks for trying, I guess.

 

[BCP1928]

Have you forgotten that the recent conflict between Palestinians and Israelis started when Hamas attacked Israel?

The most recent flare-up, but things were hardly hunky-dory before that.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

The question asked was "Is that the same as "Stop the Genocide" or "Free Palestine?" You answered a question, just not the one I asked. Thanks for trying, I guess.

My answer was no. I had hoped you would have been able to discern that when I was explaining what it meant.

 

[DaisyDay]

My answer was no. I had hoped you would have been able to discern that when I was explaining what it meant.

Perhaps you should start with the actual answer, then editorialize at length rather than simply bloviate from the get-go if you want to be understood. If you don't care about being understood, then carry on as you have been.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I agree with the former Biden official

"The former envoy continued, "And anybody who tries to separate the two and try to say, ‘Oh, I’m just against Israel’s policies in Palestine or in Gaza, and I’m not antisemitic,’ this was antisemitism pure and simple. That he happened to have killed two Israeli staff didn’t matter. It was a Jewish event, they were targets.""​

 

[Always in His Presence]

Antisemitism is on the rise once more amid ongoing Israel-Hamas war, experts say​

Officials have repeatedly sounded the alarm on the rise of antisemitism in recent years, and the ongoing war in the Middle East between Israel and the terrorist group Hamas appears to have incited a new wave of threats against Jewish communities in the United States, experts said.​

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"We know invariably when tensions flare in other parts of the world, the reverberations are felt everywhere, including in our homes and our communities," said Melanie Pell, chief field operations officer of the American Jewish Committee. "So we're really bracing for a very vulnerable time and thankfully, law enforcement is paying very close attention and is in constant coordination and collaboration with the Jewish community."​

 

[Vambram]

The most recent flare-up, but things were hardly hunky-dory before that.

For decades, Hamas, Hezbollah, and terrorists have been attacking from Gaza and from Southern Lebanon the people of Israel with rockets and other weapons of indiscriminate destruction.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Before the October 7, 2023 attack, Palestinian militants had been launching rockets into Israel for years as part of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Since 2001, tens of thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from Gaza into Israel. These attacks varied in frequency, with periods of intense escalation and relative calm.

In the months leading up to October 7, Hamas and other militant groups fired thousands of rockets at Israel. On October 7 alone, Hamas launched over 5,000 rockets in a single day. Between October 7 and December 28, 2023, a total of 12,000 rockets were fired at Israeli targets. The Iron Dome missile defense system has intercepted many of these rockets, preventing significant casualties.

They - the Palestinians have turned down every two state solution ever offered. In their charter - they call for the elimination of the Jews.

 

[RileyG]

So it has become. The MAGA lie is that it has always been that way.

What lie?

 

[RileyG]

Before the October 7, 2023 attack, Palestinian militants had been launching rockets into Israel for years as part of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Since 2001, tens of thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from Gaza into Israel. These attacks varied in frequency, with periods of intense escalation and relative calm.

In the months leading up to October 7, Hamas and other militant groups fired thousands of rockets at Israel. On October 7 alone, Hamas launched over 5,000 rockets in a single day. Between October 7 and December 28, 2023, a total of 12,000 rockets were fired at Israeli targets. The Iron Dome missile defense system has intercepted many of these rockets, preventing significant casualties.

They - the Palestinians have turned down every two state solution ever offered. In their charter - they call for the elimination of the Jews.

Ugh! How awful! My prayers are for peace between Israel and Palestine.

 

[RileyG]

For decades, Hamas, Hezbollah, and terrorists have been attacking from Gaza and from Southern Lebanon the people of Israel with rockets and other weapons of indiscriminate destruction.

This. There is a lot of hatred for the Jewish people in Israel. It’s sad.

 

[Lukaris]

Here is an observation from an American based Jewish think tank from March 2021. It mentions the US demo party shifting gears towards favoring Iran as a better option for Middle East policy than the predominantly Arab coalition with Saudi Arabia. The outrage against the Saudi axis stemmed from the grotesque and grisly murder of a Saudi dissident reporter named Keshoggi. Demos seized on one incident to shift preference to Iran ( as if Iran doesn’t formally rule by murderous policy). Potential fallout from this shift of policy is mentioned:


reckless moves by the Biden administration: “freezing” arms sales to the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, halting intelligence assistance to the Arab Coalition opposing the Houthis, removing the Houthis from the terror list, and working with South Korea to unfreeze at least a billion dollars of Iranian assets.

Biden’s delay in calling Israel’s prime minister is part of the same policy, as is significant backtracking on reaffirming U.S. policy over Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights and undermining the Abraham Accords by halting the sale of F-35s to the UAE.



Look at what has happened in the Middle East since March 2021 ( the same patterns of foolish or perhaps deliberate treason) policy probably have parallels with immigration, Ukraine etc.). The current demo “outrage” over the somewhat shifty ( but overall irrelevant) jet gift to Trump is probably the current Demo playing card to perpetuate collapse in the Middle East.



Faulty U.S Intel Report on Khashoggi to Woo Iran – Jewish Policy Center

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

And what does "Stop the Genocide" mean?


That's not when it started, for goodness' sake! The conflict has been ongoing for as long as I can recall. They have been completely walled in and blockaded with their monies confiscated by Israel. They've been living in an open air prison unable to come or go. They are subject to getting shot just for tending their orchards and farms too near the border.

If you want to look back at history, it’s important to note that Israel and the West, especially the United States, have repeatedly offered a two-state solution to the Palestinians. Palestinian leaders, Arab nations, and Yasser Arafat consistently rejected this proposal.

Palestinians rejected the two-state solution because they wanted the land exclusively for themselves and were not interested in sharing it with Jews.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

The most recent flare-up, but things were hardly hunky-dory before that.

You are correct; the past 20 years have been challenging. Since the first election in Palestine in 2006, the world has sent between 1 to 1.5 billion dollars annually in aid to rebuild, feed, and support Palestinians. Palestinian leaders used the money to buy mansions in Paris and London and sent their children to prestigious schools in Europe, rather than helping their citizens.

And they built rockets with that money.

Since 2005, Hamas has fired over 22,000 rockets at Israel, resulting in numerous deaths.

I am curious about the response of peace-loving individuals. Why were there no protests against Hamas's 22,000 rockets that resulted in numerous Israeli casualties?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

For decades, Hamas, Hezbollah, and terrorists have been attacking from Gaza and from Southern Lebanon the people of Israel with rockets and other weapons of indiscriminate destruction.

Remember to include the PLO. Arafat sought peace towards the end of his life because he recognized that the conflict could not be resolved through violence.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Before the October 7, 2023 attack, Palestinian militants had been launching rockets into Israel for years as part of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Since 2001, tens of thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from Gaza into Israel. These attacks varied in frequency, with periods of intense escalation and relative calm.

In the months leading up to October 7, Hamas and other militant groups fired thousands of rockets at Israel. On October 7 alone, Hamas launched over 5,000 rockets in a single day. Between October 7 and December 28, 2023, a total of 12,000 rockets were fired at Israeli targets. The Iron Dome missile defense system has intercepted many of these rockets, preventing significant casualties.

They - the Palestinians have turned down every two state solution ever offered. In their charter - they call for the elimination of the Jews.

This site provides a detailed list of rockets fired towards Israel since 2001.

Rocket & Mortar Attacks Against Israel by Date

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[Oompa Loompa]

The most recent flare-up, but things were hardly hunky-dory before that.

Not true. Life was perfect...too perfect. Which is why the MAGA covert psyops units had to spread our anti-zionist propaganda to incite chaos.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Perhaps you should start with the actual answer, then editorialize at length rather than simply bloviate from the get-go if you want to be understood. If you don't care about being understood, then carry on as you have been.

My apologies. I will try harder to make my responses more straightforward for you.

 

[MrMoe]

"Free Palestine" is a slogan said around the world. Even from Jews in Israel itself.
It means free the people of Palestine from the genocidal policies of Israel.
This comment by a former Biden officials does not change that.

I remember the hysteria over the okay hand sign. It was called a “racist dog whistle”. If those on the left believe that a harmless hand sign can be co-opted into meaning something bad, then they must concede that a harmless phrase can be turned into a dog whistle for a call to violence.

 

[MrMoe]

It is MAGA that is forcing the definition of antisemitism on any criticism or protest of Israeli or US policy.

Didn’t know former Biden diplomats were now considered MAGA.