Mathematical Formulas In Nature - Absolute Proof Of Creation

[trophy33]

I'll repeat and expand upon what I said... the ability to interpret His *fundamental* attributes are available, in fact unavoidable, to *all* of us - in His creation. On these we all agree whether we admit such to ourselves and each other, or not. Certainly enough to discern that He is calling us.

God says He makes this clear to all - none of us gets a "oh, I had a different interpretation" get-out-of-jail free card. And jail is a mild word for what I pray will be no one's eventual destination.

Either we believe Him or we don't - it is still our responsibility to respond to Him.


I believe you understand exactly what I'm saying - and are proving out the point that I made. Prove me wrong by seeking to know Him, trophy.

Well, you need to understand that if something is making sense in your head, it does not necessarily mean it makes sense objectively, for others.

And the ability to communicate your ideas clearly and concisely is critical for mutual understanding in a conversation.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Somehow this thread puts me in mind of Feynman's story about the French curve.

For example, in a mechanical drawing class at MIT where the students were taught to use a drawing instrument called a French curve (a curly piece of plastic for drawing smooth curves), Feynman informed the other students that “the French curve is made so that at the lowest point on each curve, no matter how you turn it, the tangent is horizontal”. He reports that the other students in the class were excited by this discovery, and began holding up their French curves and turning them in various ways, trying to verify that the curve was always horizontal at the lowest point. Feynman found this funny, because they had already taken calculus and supposedly learned that the derivative of the minimum of any curve is zero.

 

[AV1611VET]

Feynman found this funny, because they had already taken calculus and supposedly learned that the derivative of the minimum of any curve is zero.

That's nothing.

I took science class in high school, and I learned we had nine planets in our solar system.

We even had a mnemonic phrase to remember them in order.

And we'd better get them right, or else we would fail the test.

Any student claiming Pluto wasn't a planet would have been told to leave their belief at the door.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's nothing.

I took science class in high school, and I learned we had nine planets in our solar system.

We even had a mnemonic phrase to remember them in order.

And we'd better get them right, or else we would fail the test.

Any student claiming Pluto wasn't a planet would have been told to leave their belief at the door.

... so what?

 

[AV1611VET]

... so what?

According to Saltes, Feynman found his French curve "funny."

I'm wondering if Feynman would have found Tombaugh's Folly funny?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

According to Saltes, Feynman found his French curve "funny."

I'm wondering if Feynman would have found Tombaugh's Folly funny?

AV, your obsession with Pluto is not healthy.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Who gives a rip? One man's accredited is another man's unaccredited. Nobody eventually discredited Edison or Einstein for being drop-outs, did they?

Edison didn't claim an academic title. Herr Doktor Professor Einstein completed his doctorate in physics. Hovind bought a "degree" from a diploma mill so he could get the "respect" of suckers.

Your, or my, respect is irrelevant to his argument. Have you got a rebuttal, or no?

Rebuttal to what?

I already gave you some info about the Fibinacci spirals in certain types of plants. We can discuss that more if you like, but it is just a consequence of how the thing grows. It is not evidence for "design".

The existence of Kent Hovind? He is irrelevant.

Acts 4:13 KJV
"Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus."

I am uninterested in your Peter or John or you holy book. They aren't relevant to anything here.

 

[BCP1928]

That's nothing.

I took science class in high school, and I learned we had nine planets in our solar system.

We even had a mnemonic phrase to remember them in order.

And we'd better get them right, or else we would fail the test.

Any student claiming Pluto wasn't a planet would have been told to leave their belief at the door.

And you blame science for that?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And you blame science for that?

Yes he does.

 

[AV1611VET]

And you blame science for that?

Well I couldn't blame it on my English classes.

 

[BCP1928]

Well I couldn't blame it on my English classes.

No, you no doubt blame the English for those.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes he does.

One of science's biggest mistakes is now 50 light years out.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

One of science's biggest mistakes is now 50 light years out.

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And you should care... why?

 

[AV1611VET]

No, you no doubt blame the English for those.

Nope.

My science teacher was American.

I remember she throwing my homework paper on the floor in front of the whole class and telling me to redo it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Nope.

My science teacher was American.

I remember she throwing my homework paper on the floor in front of the whole class and telling me to redo it.

Ah! So this is the cause of you hating science so much! But I get it. One bad teacher can ruin anything when you're young enough. Sad that you stuck with that hate for so long.

 

[AV1611VET]

And you should care... why?

It makes me wonder what else science has wrong.

And for the record, from AI Overview:

The Arecibo message was sent towards a star cluster called Messier 13 (M13), which is approximately 25,000 light-years away from Earth. This means the message will take roughly 25,000 years to reach its intended destination.

Can you believe it?

Scientists are communicating with ... what?

Life elsewhere in the universe.

While at the same time, looking for what?

Life in the universe!

This "shoot first, then ask questions later" mentality is what got us a generation of ... well ... you know.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It makes me wonder what else science has wrong.

And for the record, from AI Overview:

The Arecibo message was sent towards a star cluster called Messier 13 (M13), which is approximately 25,000 light-years away from Earth. This means the message will take roughly 25,000 years to reach its intended destination.

Can you believe it?

Scientists are communicating with ... what?

Life elsewhere in the universe.

While at the same time, looking for what?

Life in the universe!

This "shoot first, then ask questions later" mentality is what got us a generation of ... well ... you know.

Hey, you don't if you'll catch a fish unless you try casting your rod into the water.

But you don't care at all, anyway. To you, science will always be in the wrong and be wrong about anything and everything.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ah! So this is the cause of you hating science so much! But I get it. One bad teacher can ruin anything when you're young enough. Sad that you stuck with that hate for so long.

For the record, I was in the 9th grade.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

For the record, I was in the 9th grade.

A heck of a long time to hold a grudge...

 

[AV1611VET]

To you, science will always be in the wrong and be wrong about anything and everything.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't even academia look forward to being found wrong?

And don't they even have a word for that?

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