Huge win for Trump as world's second biggest carmaker relocates manufacturing to US

[Oompa Loompa]

If this is the American golden age then what was the post war era?

The golden age. Are you now starting to understand that make america great AGAIN means now?

 

[Bradskii]

The golden age. Are you now starting to understand that make america great AGAIN means now?

Do you know that they call Messi the GOAT? The Greatest Of All Time. Some might pick Pele, or Maradona. Great players both, but my vote, along with probably the majority of people who enjoy the game, goes to Messi. I can't recall it being reported that Messi himself advertised to everyone that he was the greatest. That's not the way it works. It's for others to decide.

So whether the US attains greatness will be decided by the view of others. We'll let you know in due course when it happens. There will be a general consensus. As there used to be, in fact.

The general consensus at the moment (you should give yourself some time to read some foreign press) is that you are a nation that is a very long way indeed from being seen as 'great'.

 

[BCP1928]

If this is the American golden age then what was the post war era?

I think he must have meant the Gilded Age (Gilded Age II, that is.)

 

[mindlight]

Indeed. Grand headlines of "we are pope", but in the end, the pope is the leader of his own country and huge, international church. He has very little time to be a person from his former country.

Of course it's a big thing on the personal level of catholic citizens, but it doesn't improve the country as a whole.

The experience of Poland with JP2 was very different. Germany is too liberal for a proper pope to ever be popular.

 

[Nithavela]

The experience of Poland with JP2 was very different. Germany is too liberal for a proper pope to ever be popular.

Poland is also 71% catholic, while in germany, it's only 24 %.

In the USA, it's 19%. Peru is 76 %.

I predict that in the long run, the new pope will actually be more influental in Peru than in the USA.

It makes sense. For non-catholics, whoever is pope is not extremely important and that whole thing is more of a spectator sport. For catholics, it is a central part of their religious life, and the entire process is basically mystical. It's so miraculous that cardinals regularly turn younger just so that they can get a vote in.

 

[FireDragon76]

Poland is also 71% catholic, while in germany, it's only 24 %.

In the USA, it's 19%. Peru is 76 %.

I predict that in the long run, the new pope will actually be more influental in Peru than in the USA.

It makes sense. For non-catholics, whoever is pope is not extremely important and that whole thing is more of a spectator sport. For catholics, it is a central part of their religious life, and the entire process is basically mystical. It's so miraculous that cardinals regularly turn younger just so that they can get a vote in.

The Pope's influence extends beyond Catholicism. Especially when he speaks in a prophetic manner, there is an authority to that, which transcends religious denomination.

Having a Pope be American could be a good thing for the US, if it reminds Americans, and the world, that just because one is born in America does not mean one has to embrace a narrow, and often bigoted, parochialism, however fashionable that has become in American culture and politics.

 

[trophy33]

Especially when he speaks in a prophetic manner, there is an authority to that, which transcends religious denomination.

How is this supposed to work, when other denomination do not believe in the papal authority?

 

[Ellesmere]

Here are the results by brand of automakers for all of 2024 and how they fared versus the full-year of 2023:

1. Toyota: 1,986,954 Up 4%
2. Ford: 1,960,338 Up 2%
3. Chevrolet: 1,730,075 Up 2%
4. Honda: 1,291,490 Up 11%
5. Nissan: 865,938 Up 11%
6. Hyundai: 836,802 Up 4%
7. Kia: 782,451 Up 2%
8. Subaru: 667,725 Up 5%
9. GMC: 614,177 Up 9%
10. Jeep: 587,725 Down 9%
11. Ram Trucks: 439,039 Down 4%
12. Mazda: 424,382 Up 17%
13. Volkswagen: 379,178 Up 17%
14. BMW: 371,346 Up 2%
15. Lexus: 345,669 Up 8%
16. Mercedes-Benz: 324,528 Up 9%
17. Audi: 196,576 Down 14%
18. Buick: 183,421 Up 10%
19. Cadillac: 160,204 Up 9%
20. Dodge: 141,730 Down 29%
21. Acura: 132,367 Down 9% = member of the Voilkswagen Group (VG)
22. Volvo: 125,243 Down 2%
23. Chrysler: 124,684 Down 7%
24. Mitsubishi: 109,843 Up 26%
25. Land Rover: 106,650 Up 29%
26. Lincoln: 104,823 Up 28%
27. Porsche: 76,167 Up 1%
28. Genesis: 75,003 Up 8%
29. Infiniti: 58,070 Down 2%
30. Mini: 26,299 Down 22%
31. Jaguar: 13,210 Up 33%
32. Alfa Romeo: 8,865 Down 19%
33. Maserati: 6,320 Down 4%
34. Bentley: 3,840 Down 8%
35. Lamborghini: 3,826 Up 4%
36. Rolls Royce: 1,765 Down 1%
37. Fiat: 1,528 Up 152%
38. McLaren: 1,270 Up 16%

Volkswagen Group, the second largest automaker in the world in 2024, is preparing to join the growing list of automakers looking to rejig its US factories in response to the tariffs.

Huge Trump win as world's no. 2 carmaker relocates manufacturing to US

As President Donald Trump had hoped, carmakers are starting to shift gears on manufacturing.

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1) Volkswagen may be the 2nd largest automaker in the world but it ranks 13th in terms of cars sold in America, where the combined sales of all VW models represents a mere 4% of the new US car market - as compared to a 25% market share in Europe!

2) Despite a 17% increase in sales in 2024, Volkswagen has never regained the over 400,000 sales market share it registered in 2013/2014!

3) Apparently it has now been proposed that the Audi, a distinct brand acquired 1964 but still a member of the of the Volkswagen Group (VAG), be manufactured in the US in order to access the America market - 2024 Audi sales in the US were 198,367, approximately 2% of the new car market and down 14% from the previous year!

"Behold..! We have not only the greatest president in US (or world) history ..."
- Landon Caeli

4) In 2024, Volkswagen announced that it intended to invest over $5 billion to manufacture automobiles in the US with the emphasis on "electric-vehicle market" - but given that this occurred with little fanfare during the Biden Administration, apparently Joe Biden is undeserving when it comes to being recognized as "the greatest president in US (or world) history!"

5) Attracting a car manufacturer, like Audi, a high end brand that accounts for approximately only 2% of the US market (having declined 14% from the previous year) that will take years before it becomes completely operational, won't compensate for the job loss by America's domestic car manufacturers forced to confront high tariff costs and disruptions of Canadian/Mexican parts supply chains - networks established over the previous 30 years under NAFTA (1994 to 2020) and the USMCA (2020 to 2024)!

6) Given that Germany is a member of the European Union and Trump's decision to relocate all automobile manufacturing in the US, its unrealistic to think that having imposed tariffs restricting trade, "HELL WILL FREEZE OVER" before other nations will allow cars assembled in America, including Acuras, access to their domestic markets at competitive prices!

Full-Year Auto Sales Report For 2024

Toyota takes the sales crown in 2024, with Ford a close second and Chevrolet in third place.

www.carpro.com

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[BCP1928]

How is this supposed to work, when other denomination do not believe in the papal authority?

The suggestion is, that because so many of your fellow Christians trust his authority it would behoove the rest of us to at least listen to the man seriously.

 

[FireDragon76]

How is this supposed to work, when other denomination do not believe in the papal authority?

That's not the kind of "authority" I am speaking of.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

The suggestion is, that because so many of your fellow Christians trust his authority it would behoove the rest of us to at least listen to the man seriously.

Why? Many liberal Catholics don't even listen to the man when he speaks out against abortion and gay marriage.

 

[Nithavela]

The Pope's influence extends beyond Catholicism. Especially when he speaks in a prophetic manner, there is an authority to that, which transcends religious denomination.

Having a Pope be American could be a good thing for the US, if it reminds Americans, and the world, that just because one is born in America does not mean one has to embrace a narrow, and often bigoted, parochialism, however fashionable that has become in American culture and politics.

I don't doubt that some non-catholics hold the pope in higher regard than leaders of other denominations, but I have some problem believing that it is a mainstream view of non-catholics that the pope has special prophetic powers.

 

[BCP1928]

Why? Many liberal Catholics don't even listen to the man when he speaks out against abortion and gay marriage.

What has he said about those subjects that Catholics disobey?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

If this is the American golden age then what was the post war era?

I would describe it as the:

"We were able to enjoy unrealistic (if it had been normal circumstances) results off of sometimes-mediocre products and name our own price while much of the world was rebuilding because we happened to be the only remaining world power left that didn't have it's industrial capacity ravaged by the world war" era...

But that doesn't really roll off the tongue.
(nor does it convey that "gool ol nostalgic feeling" people seem to like to associate with that time period)


The Detroit Automakers were one of the first major industries to learn that lesson the hard way. While initially thriving in a relatively "competition-free" global market, it only took a decade or two for the Germans and Japanese to rally and start cleaning our clocks in the Automotive arena.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Here are the results by brand of automakers for all of 2024 and how they fared versus the full-year of 2023:

1. Toyota: 1,986,954 Up 4%
2. Ford: 1,960,338 Up 2%
3. Chevrolet: 1,730,075 Up 2%
4. Honda: 1,291,490 Up 11%
5. Nissan: 865,938 Up 11%
6. Hyundai: 836,802 Up 4%
7. Kia: 782,451 Up 2%
8. Subaru: 667,725 Up 5%
9. GMC: 614,177 Up 9%
10. Jeep: 587,725 Down 9%
11. Ram Trucks: 439,039 Down 4%
12. Mazda: 424,382 Up 17%
13. Volkswagen: 379,178 Up 17%
14. BMW: 371,346 Up 2%
15. Lexus: 345,669 Up 8%
16. Mercedes-Benz: 324,528 Up 9%
17. Audi: 196,576 Down 14%
18. Buick: 183,421 Up 10%
19. Cadillac: 160,204 Up 9%
20. Dodge: 141,730 Down 29%
21. Acura: 132,367 Down 9% = member of the Voilkswagen Group (VG)
22. Volvo: 125,243 Down 2%
23. Chrysler: 124,684 Down 7%
24. Mitsubishi: 109,843 Up 26%
25. Land Rover: 106,650 Up 29%
26. Lincoln: 104,823 Up 28%
27. Porsche: 76,167 Up 1%
28. Genesis: 75,003 Up 8%
29. Infiniti: 58,070 Down 2%
30. Mini: 26,299 Down 22%
31. Jaguar: 13,210 Up 33%
32. Alfa Romeo: 8,865 Down 19%
33. Maserati: 6,320 Down 4%
34. Bentley: 3,840 Down 8%
35. Lamborghini: 3,826 Up 4%
36. Rolls Royce: 1,765 Down 1%
37. Fiat: 1,528 Up 152%
38. McLaren: 1,270 Up 16%

1) Volkswagen may be the 2nd largest automaker in the world but it ranks 13th in terms of cars sold in America, where the combined sales of all VW models represents a mere 4% of the new US car market - as compared to a 25% market share in Europe!

2) Despite a 17% increase in sales in 2024, Volkswagen has never regained the over 400,000 sales market share it registered in 2013/2014!

3) Apparently it has now been proposed that the Audi, a distinct brand acquired 1964 but still a member of the of the Volkswagen Group (VAG), be manufactured in the US in order to access the America market - 2024 Audi sales in the US were 198,367, approximately 2% of the new car market and down 14% from the previous year!

"Behold..! We have not only the greatest president in US (or world) history ..."
- Landon Caeli

4) In 2024, Volkswagen announced that it intended to invest over $5 billion to manufacture automobiles in the US with the emphasis on "electric-vehicle market" - but given that this occurred with little fanfare during the Biden Administration, apparently Joe Biden is undeserving when it comes to being recognized as "the greatest president in US (or world) history!"

5) Attracting a car manufacturer, like Audi, a high end brand that accounts for approximately only 2% of the US market (having declined 14% from the previous year) that will take years before it becomes completely operational, won't compensate for the job loss by America's domestic car manufacturers forced to confront high tariff costs and disruptions of Canadian/Mexican parts supply chains - networks established over the previous 30 years under NAFTA (1994 to 2020) and the USMCA (2020 to 2024)!

6) Given that Germany is a member of the European Union and Trump's decision to relocate all automobile manufacturing in the US, its unrealistic to think that having imposed tariffs restricting trade, "HELL WILL FREEZE OVER" before other nations will allow cars assembled in America, including Acuras, access to their domestic markets at competitive prices!

Full-Year Auto Sales Report For 2024

Toyota takes the sales crown in 2024, with Ford a close second and Chevrolet in third place.

www.carpro.com

Google Search

Honda and Hyundai are also planning on increasing their production within the United States.

Hyundai Motor commits $21 billion to US vehicle manufacturing, supply chain and logistics

Hyundai has announced an investment in US vehicle production, supply chain and logistics of $21 billion and in the same week has officially opened its metaplant in Georgia at which it now plans to make 500,000 electric vehicles a year.

www.automotivelogistics.media

Honda considers increase in U.S. production to meet 90% of local sales

Relocation from Mexico, Canada sought in face of Trump's tariffs

asia.nikkei.com

Hyundai is investing $21,000,000,000. And Honda's goal is to meet 90% of all American sales - which is huge.

The decision to relocate manufacturing to America was announced immediately after Trump won the election! The writing was on the wall.

 

[BCP1928]

I would describe it as the:

"We were able to enjoy unrealistic (if it had been normal circumstances) results off of sometimes-mediocre products and name our own price while much of the world was rebuilding because we happened to be the only remaining world power left that didn't have it's industrial capacity ravaged by the world war" era...

But that doesn't really roll off the tongue.
(nor does it convey that "gool ol nostalgic feeling" people seem to like to associate with that time period)


The Detroit Automakers were one of the first major industries to learn that lesson the hard way. While initially thriving in a relatively "competition-free" global market, it only took a decade or two for the Germans and Japanese to rally and start cleaning our clocks in the Automotive arena.

And now the Chinese are doing it, too, and the Koreans, with the Indians closing the gap. The question is, why? Our workers are lazy and unproductive? Government regulations hamper productivity? Corporate taxes are too high because we give too much government money to lazy poor people? Unions are strangling the industry? I'm sure you must be able to come up with more reasons of your own.

But one thing you can never, never suggest is that it has anything at all to do with the competence or probity of elite corporate and financial management.

 

[BCP1928]

Honda and Hyundai are also planning on increasing their production within the United States.

Hyundai Motor commits $21 billion to US vehicle manufacturing, supply chain and logistics

Hyundai has announced an investment in US vehicle production, supply chain and logistics of $21 billion and in the same week has officially opened its metaplant in Georgia at which it now plans to make 500,000 electric vehicles a year.

www.automotivelogistics.media

Honda considers increase in U.S. production to meet 90% of local sales

Relocation from Mexico, Canada sought in face of Trump's tariffs

asia.nikkei.com

Hyundai is investing $21,000,000,000. And Honda is investing $
...And these tariffs have just recently been initiated! Don't you see a trend here?

Definitely. They can even make money by building cars here and exporting them. The leading exporter of domestically manufactured automobiles is BMW.

 

[trophy33]

Honda and Hyundai are also planning on increasing their production within the United States.

Hyundai Motor commits $21 billion to US vehicle manufacturing, supply chain and logistics

Hyundai has announced an investment in US vehicle production, supply chain and logistics of $21 billion and in the same week has officially opened its metaplant in Georgia at which it now plans to make 500,000 electric vehicles a year.

www.automotivelogistics.media

Honda considers increase in U.S. production to meet 90% of local sales

Relocation from Mexico, Canada sought in face of Trump's tariffs

asia.nikkei.com

Hyundai is investing $21,000,000,000. And Honda's goal is to meet 90% of all American sales - which is huge.

Who will work in those US-based plants? Immigrants? Foreign Asian workers with green cards?

 

[BCP1928]

Who will work in those US-based plants? Immigrants?

No, only US citizens and legal residents, sometimes even union members. It's really a good deal for American workers--they get payed even thought the profits of the businesses go overseas as part of the trade deficit.

 

[trophy33]

No, only US citizens and legal residents, sometimes even union members. It's really a good deal for American workers--they get payed even thought the profits of the businesses go overseas as part of the trade deficit.

Current US unemployment is about 4%. Good luck finding native qualified, healthy, skilled labor for automotive willing to move because of work or to even work.