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Typically French wine is much better than USA wine, I mean, who in their right mind buys USA wine for special occasions?
I typically buy Franzia boxed wine. Super cheap and abundant.
 
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Here is a really good mobile app.

You can scan products in the grocery store and it can tell you whether that product supports USA trade or not.
So if it does, you can then choose a different product. There really is no need to support USA products when USA is making this ridiculous attack on global trade trying to bully and extort its trading partners.

I'm all for boycotts of USA products.
Fascinating! Does this also work for ma and pop stores?
 
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There are american companies that profit even if the goods are created in other countries.
Shhh....you're not supposed to tell them that now.

It's funnier if we wait until they buy all of the stuff, post a Facebook selfie of themselves in the grocery store with a "#DeTrumpify" border, and THEN find out afterwards that they still funneled money to American companies.
 
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Shhh....you're not supposed to tell them that now.

It's funnier if we wait until they buy all of the stuff, post a Facebook selfie of themselves in the grocery store with a "#DeTrumpify" border, and THEN find out afterwards that they still funneled money to American companies.
I think those apps account for this.

It's also really hard to 100 % boycott the USA, especially when it comes to digital services, entertainment and the likes.

I don't want to 100% boycott the USA. I just want to spend less.
 
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An app for finding local made is one thing, but an app for avoiding products from a specific country is something else.

Personally I'd like to avoid Russia products, USA products and Israel products. So if you could create your own profile. Maybe a black list and a preferred list. So you black list Russia, USA and Israel, maybe add to your preferred list local made, maybe Ukraine. It will at least highlight things to avoid at all costs, highlight things that are preferred, it would be very, very handy.
Great if you could just take a photo of a grocery shelf and it would super impose the highlights and the avoids.

Just out of curiosity, is China (or any of the other countries that run sweatshops) on your list?

If not, is this just one of those "virtue signal boycotts" where people will boycott the stuff that's easy and doesn't involve much personal sacrifice?

Sort of like the "CrossFit" or Atkins version of boycotts, where it doesn't really make a noticeable impact, it's not as hard to do as the real thing, but allows people to tell their friends about it non-stop.
 
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In terms of
Global freedom they are 55th
Human freedom they are 42nd
Media freedom they are 43rd


Not a very free country.

Actually, the US is 17th overall (from your source -- what you linked is actually a collab between CATO and 2 other organizations https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index/2023).


The countries that took the top 10 places, in order, were Switzerland, New Zealand, Denmark, Ireland, Estonia and Sweden (tied at 5), Iceland, Luxembourg, Finland, and Norway. Other jurisdictions rank as follows: Taiwan (12), Canada (13), Japan (16), United Kingdom and United States (tied at 17), Germany (21), Chile (26), South Korea (28), France (39), Brazil and South Africa (tied at 73), Argentina (77), Ukraine (83), Mexico (95), India (109), Nigeria (118), Russia (121), Turkey (128), China (149), Saudi Arabia (157), Venezuela (160), Iran (161), and Syria (165).


There are 12 categories total, incorporating over 80 indicators

So cherry picking a few categories that "prove your point" doesn't actually prove your point.
 
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Just out of curiosity, is China (or any of the other countries that run sweatshops) on your list?
I don't care about sweatshops, I'm not on a virtue crusade.

I care about NZ and I care about the western aliance and free trade, NZ is a big exporter and relies heavily on international trade. I also care about global peace, NZ doesn't have an airforce that can defence our country, we rely on a world order of peace and non invasion. So I am against countries like Russia, Israel and USA and their desires to expand by invading other countries.
If not, is this just one of those "virtue signal boycotts" where people will boycott the stuff that's easy and doesn't involve much personal sacrifice?
It's all about personal choice, no one is 100% idealogical, that's insane to even think people ought to be. It's about being practical and pragmatic.
My country, like many others are not officially getting into a trade and tarrif war with USA, because that would create inflation for us, but another way "The People" can fight back against the insanity of USA is to stop buying their crappy products. I don't need anything USA makes.
 
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If not, is this just one of those "virtue signal boycotts" where people will boycott the stuff that's easy and doesn't involve much personal sacrifice?

Yes, yes it is.
 
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I don't care about sweatshops, I'm not on a virtue crusade.
The fact that you specifically picked the 3 countries that are the "target of progressive ire" would suggest otherwise.

"I want to specifically avoid the US, Russia, and Israel...but perhaps prioritize buying stuff that comes from Ukraine" does sound a bit like a virtue crusade...sorry.


You see, I just buy from the people who I think offer a good product.

For example, one of the breweries I frequent from is about as "woke" as you can get. (every version of the pride flag is hanging up in the place, and politically speaking, I have virtually nothing in common with the owner, staff, or 3/4 of the other clientele...but they make excellent beer and do a fun movie/music trivia night every week...and that's what I'm going there for...I'm not looking to make a political statement with my pub trivia night)


Put the shoe on the other foot.

If someone said, "I'm going to buy some pizza, I realize this other place is better, but nah, I'm only going to buy pizza from establishments where the owner and employees are pro concealed carry even if it tastes worse", that would sound pretty stupid right?
My country, like many others are not officially getting into a trade and tarrif war with USA, because that would create inflation for us, but another way "The People" can fight back against the insanity of USA is to stop buying their crappy products. I don't need anything USA makes.

As far as the "US having crappy products"

When you find good alternatives for US's offerings of:
US Movies & TV entertainment
Medical technology innovation
Apple/Microsoft/Intel/NVIDIA/AMD
Space technology
Gibson/Fender/Gretch guitars
(just to name some)

...by all means, let us know.
 
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So apparently, the app is primarily focused on food items, and currently contains only 2.483 food items.

From its Github page:

Detrumpez-vous is a mobile app that allows users to scan the barcodes of food products and instantly receive detailed information about the brand’s ownership (U.S.-based company or not).
Here's the list of items you can check.


It's a pretty pathetic list. Although if you want to avoid accidentally purchasing Reese's Puffs cereal or Wrigley's gum, this app's got your back! ^_^
 
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So apparently, the app is primarily focused on food items, and currently contains only 2.483 food items.

From its Github page:

Detrumpez-vous is a mobile app that allows users to scan the barcodes of food products and instantly receive detailed information about the brand’s ownership (U.S.-based company or not).
Here's the list of items you can check.


It's a pretty pathetic list. Although if you want to avoid accidentally purchasing Reese's Puffs cereal or Wrigley's gum, this app's got your back! ^_^
That'll show 'em! lol

"I just bought off-brand cookies, nevermind the fact that the American company that makes it were Democratic supporters, doesn't matter, I'll get these other ones....Take that Trump!!"
 
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That'll show 'em! lol

"I just bought off-brand cookies, nevermind the fact that the American company that makes it were Democratic supporters, doesn't matter, I'll get these other ones....Take that Trump!!"

I think you just came up with an enhancement request for the app! We want to not only know what the country of origin is, but the parent company's political affiliation as well. Absolutely brilliant!

Also, why is this only targeted to food items? You'd think the people who are organizing this boycott would want to boycott ALL US items. But I suppose it's easier to give up your Coco Puffs than it is to give up your iPhone.
 
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I think that there's one or two people that are missing the point here.

The global market is exceptionally complex. It's not possible for Joe Citizen to comprehensively and accurately decide what products he's going to buy based on political opinions. Yes, there are easy targets that are obviously Made in The USA. Jack Daniels is made only in one distillery for example. Local materials, local workers, local know-how. But the app isn't meant to make a difference to the bottom line of US companies. It's there to give a one figure salute to Trump and his ridiculous ideas about Canada. It's there to create a headline. It's there to show what Canadians think of your president, his tarrifs and his 51st state comments.

More power to them.
 
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I think that there's one or two people that are missing the point here.

The global market is exceptionally complex. It's not possible for Joe Citizen to comprehensively and accurately decide what products he's going to buy based on political opinions.

Agreed. Also, not sure why anyone would even want to try.

Yes, there are easy targets that are obviously Made in The USA. Jack Daniels is made only in one distillery for example. Local materials, local workers, local know-how. But the app isn't meant to make a difference to the bottom line of US companies. It's there to give a one figure salute to Trump and his ridiculous ideas about Canada. It's there to create a headline. It's there to show what Canadians think of your president, his tarrifs and his 51st state comments.

Right. It's there to virtue signal.

Also, this is a French app, so I'm not sure how you think it relates to Canada.

More power to them.

Agreed. They are free to make headlines and feel good about themselves while others are free to collectively roll their eyes at the pointless virtue signaling.
 
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So apparently, the app is primarily focused on food items, and currently contains only 2.483 food items.

From its Github page:

Detrumpez-vous is a mobile app that allows users to scan the barcodes of food products and instantly receive detailed information about the brand’s ownership (U.S.-based company or not).
Here's the list of items you can check.


It's a pretty pathetic list. Although if you want to avoid accidentally purchasing Reese's Puffs cereal or Wrigley's gum, this app's got your back! ^_^
Reese's Puffs cereal? Sounds delicious ;)
 
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Right. It's there to virtue signal.
There was another mentioned right at the start of the thread that was Canadian.

And virtue signaling? What a nonsensical description of it. It has nothing to do with morality. It's a way of flipping the bird. It's a comment on Trump and his idiotic positions.
 
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And virtue signaling? What a nonsensical description of it. It has nothing to do with morality. It's a way of flipping the bird. It's a comment on Trump and his idiotic positions.

Would you prefer idiot signaling?
 
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