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Some Things On the Book of Hebrews

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What I want to do in this short written piece is talk a little bit about the book of Hebrews from the New Testament. This will by no means be a comprehensive commentary of the book. It is just to highlight what I got out of it in this reading.

Hebrews 1:10-11
"In the beginning, Lord,
you established the earth,
and the heavens are the works of your hands;
they will perish, but you remain.
They will all wear out like clothing;"

This verse, quoted from Psalms 102:25-28

Psalm 102:25-28
"Of old you laid the foundation of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you will remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away,
but you are the same, and your years have no end.
The children of your servants shall dwell secure;
their offspring shall be established before you."

This seems to be the heartbeat of the book of Hebrews. It all has to do with the fact that Christ is supreme. He breaks the old covenant to make a new and better one in its place.

Hebrews 1:13
"Now to which of the angels has he ever said:
Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies your footstool?"

I am flagging this verse because it seems clear this could be used as a very good apologetic against Jehovah's Witness people.

Hebrews 2:1, 3-4
"For this reason, we must pay attention all the more to what we have heard, so that we will not drift away... it was confirmed to us by those who heard him. At the same time, God also testified by signs and wonders, various miracles, and distributions of gifts from the Holy Spirit according to his will."

This means it is possible even for an apostle to fall away from the faith. It also means one of the ways to "test" whether a person is especially "called" for the work of Christ as an apostle or prophet and even perhaps an evangelist that signs and wonders will follow them in their work of faith.

Hebrews 2:10-11, 17
"For in bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was entirely appropriate that God—for whom and through whom all things exist—should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For the one who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters, Therefore, he had to be like his brothers and sisters in every way, so that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest in matters pertaining to God, to make atonement for the sins of the people."

And the author further elucidates that those who are called will suffer in the same way Jesus was said to endure hardships. For if it was Christ who suffered most, then it is also the case that we will suffer as well...

Hebrews 3:3-6, 14
"For Jesus is considered worthy of more glory than Moses, just as the builder has more honor than the house. Now every house is built by someone, but the one who built everything is God. Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s household, as a testimony to what would be said in the future. But Christ was faithful as a Son over his household. And we are that household if we hold on to our confidence and the hope in which we boast. For we have become participants in Christ if we hold firmly until the end the reality that we had at the start."

But lest we become prideful and think we can do it without effort, the author warns us,

Hebrews 3:19 "They were unable to enter [the promise land] because of unbelief."

This leads me to this...

It seems this parallelism to the Old Testament that the author uses is to show us all manner of things relating to the new and better covenant. Notice also that the author says that we have yet to enter into the promise land. It is an already/not yet thing. For the author says,

Hebrews 4:9
"Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God’s people."

What this is talking about is the blessed hope: Christ's return to the earth. There is a deposit of the Holy Spirit now until Christ returns. But that day has not arrived yet. There remains time for those to be gathered into the household of God.

Therefore,

Hebrews 4:11
"Let us, then, make every effort to enter that rest,"

Because Christ is just like us, it says,

Hebrews 5:2
"He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray, since he is also clothed with weakness."

But let us not forget that it is God who calls and He calls with a holy calling.

Hebrews 5:4-5
"No one takes this honor on himself; instead, a person is called by God, just as Aaron was. In the same way, Christ did not exalt himself to become a high priest, but God"

Therefore, if you feel especially called, you must show yourself approved by your authority figures.

And there does seem to be the idea that these "called ones" must necessarily know about this "message of righteousness, whose Senses have been trained to distinguish between good and evil," (Hebrews 5:13-14).

Rather, the called person knows to repent of "dead works" or that which is unfruitful. For if you have all discernment, but do not do the right thing, then you are crucifying again the Son of God (Hebrews 6:1-8). This really opened my eyes in a big way. It is not that we always do wrong continually. Rather, those who are approved will be fruitful and full of good works from the heart. For it says,

Hebrews 6:11-12
"Now we desire each of you to demonstrate the same diligence for the full assurance of your hope until the end, so that you won’t become lazy but will be imitators of those who inherit the promises through faith and perseverance."

So just because God has worked powerfully in your life is no guarantee that you will not fall away from the faith--even as one especially called.
However,

Hebrews 6:17
"God wanted to show his unchangeable purpose even more clearly to the heirs of the promise, he guaranteed it with an oath"

So that leaves us with the idea that God will continue to demonstrate His power through these chosen ones. It is promised to them. For God cannot swear by anything except Himself because a person always swears by something greater than themselves. But there is nothing greater than God. So He swears by Himself that he will continue to be with these called ones to give them assurance of their task at hand--as long as they do not harden their hearts.

So remember,

Hebrews 7:7
"Without a doubt, the inferior is blessed by the superior."

That is, the layperson is blessed by the priest in the same way the called are blessed by the High Priest, which is Christ.

And Christ is always there to bless us as it is written,

Hebrews 7:24-25
"[H]e remains forever, He holds his priesthood permanently. Therefore, he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, since he always lives to intercede for them."

But given Christ is a High Priest, after the order of Melchizedek, that since He exists without beginning or end, let us remember,

Hebrews 8:7, 13
"f that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second one. By saying a new covenant, he has declared that the first is obsolete. And what is obsolete and growing old is about to pass away."

Hebrews 9:1, 9-12, 15
"Now the first covenant also had regulations for ministry and an earthly sanctuary. This is a symbol for the present time, during which gifts and sacrifices are offered that cannot perfect the worshiper’s conscience. They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order. But Christ has appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come. In the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands (that is, not of this creation), he entered the most holy place once for all time, not by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. Therefore, he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called might receive the promise of the eternal inheritance, because a death has taken place for redemption from the transgressions committed under the first covenant. Therefore, it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves to be purified with better sacrifices than these." Since the law has only a shadow of the good things to come, and not the reality itself of those things, it can never perfect the worshipers by the same sacrifices they continually offer year after year."

But what does all this mean?

Hebrews 9:22
"According to the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."

So, these called ones who were before us,

Hebrews 11:39-40
"[W]ere approved through their faith, but they did not receive what was promised, since God had provided something better for us, so that they would not be made perfect without us."

Therefore,

Hebrews 12:1-2
"[L]et us lay aside every hindrance and the sin that so easily ensnares us. Let us run with endurance the race that lies before us, keeping our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of our faith. Endure suffering as discipline: God is dealing with you as sons. For what son is there that a father does not discipline? Furthermore, we had human fathers discipline us, and we respected them. Shouldn’t we submit even more to the Father of spirits and live?"

They are the ones,

Hebrews 12:23-24
"[W]hose names have been written in heaven, to a Judge, who is God of all, to the spirits of righteous people made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which says better things than the blood of Abel."

And lastly, just a minor thing, but...

Hebrews 13:23-25
"Be aware that our brother Timothy has been released. If he comes soon enough, he will be with me when I see you. Greet all your leaders and all the saints. Those who are from Italy send you greetings. Grace be with you all."

Timothy and the author of the letter (presumably) were in prison in Rome for a time. This is interesting because it may point to Paul being the author of Hebrews or that the letter was translated by Silas (Silvanus) or it could have been written by Silas himself. I can only speculate why Timothy was released before the author of the letter, but it could be because he was said to be a very reserved person so as not to cause a ruckus in prison. Of course, it could have been a different time when Timothy was in prison in Rome. We don't know for sure.
 
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Here is another one:

Every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
Hebrews 10

That's one I refer to a lot. That's the Gospel

A couple verses later:
Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.

It is finished
 
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Hebrews 3:19 "They were unable to enter [the promise land] because of unbelief."

This leads me to this...

It seems this parallelism to the Old Testament that the author uses is to show us all manner of things relating to the new and better covenant. Notice also that the author says that we have yet to enter into the promise land. It is an already/not yet thing. For the author says,
This corresponds to Heb 4:6 disobedience and unbelief are the same thing

Heb 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

Many didn't enter the promise land and died in the wilderness due to disobedience and God singled out the Sabbath commandment

Eze 20: 13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.
Hebrews 4:9
"Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God’s people."

What this is talking about is the blessed hope: Christ's return to the earth. There is a deposit of the Holy Spirit now until Christ returns. But that day has not arrived yet. There remains time for those to be gathered into the household of God.
I am a big believer in allowing the Scriptures to define itself. why God tells us not to rely on our heart, which is deceitful above all Jer 17:9 and let Him direct our paths which He does through His Word Pro 3:5-6 Psa 119:105

The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

This is the Sabbath commandment that God wrote, and God spoke, His personal Testimony Exo 31:18 that no one has the ability to edit Psa 89:34 Deut 4:2 Mat 5:18-19

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Why the rest in Heb 4:9 literally translates into keeping the Sabbath

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

So the true meaning of Hebrews 4:9 means

"Therefore, a Sabbath keeping remains for God’s people."

Just the way God said, because God's people keep God's commandments, His version, because He is God and best to let Him define His holy and eternal law.

If we go to the next verse it continues off v9 and tells us how to enter into Christ rest

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also (which means in addition) ceased from his works as God did from His.

When did God cease from His works, this very passage tells us

Heb 4:4 For He has spoken (Exo 20:1) in a certain place (Mt Sinai) of the seventh day Exo 20:10 in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; Exo 20:11

To enter His rest one also ceases from their works on the seventh day because the Sabbath rest which God said is the seventh day, the day He rested remains for God's people.

In Christ rest, there is no rebellion to Him or His commandments, including the Sabbath commandment Isa 48:18 no one receives Christ rest by being in rebellion to Him

Now lets read Heb 4:11 under the context of this passage

Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
 
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Some people are so indoctrinated in a particular theology that the whole Bible becomes that theology to them.
Then show how its wrong from Scripture, our opinions ideas are not the same. Everything I quoted was based on allowing the Scriptures to define itself. Including the Greek translation, which literally spelled it out. So the opposite can be said, some people are so indoctrinated they no longer allow God to define His own Word or Law.
 
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Then show how its wrong from Scripture, our opinions ideas are not the same. Everything I quoted was based on allowing the Scriptures to define itself. Including the Greek translation, which literally spelled it out. So the opposite can be said, some people are so indoctrinated they no longer allow God to define His own Word or Law.

Hebrews 4:8
"For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day."

Your interpretation makes zero sense given this verse. You have essentially plucked a single word out of a single verse and interpreted an entire eschatological view to fit that word.
 
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Hebrews 4:8
"For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day."
Thanks for bringing this up. First one would need to understand there are two rests in Hebrews, not one and I will demonstrate that through the Greek Words and then we have to understand the story of Joshua. Right before Joshua led the Israelites into the Promise Land 40 years after God gave the Ten Commandments Moses repeated them, including the Sabbath commandment for them to diligently keep and teach their children to diligently keep and their children's children, so obviously Joshua is not changing God's Sabbath commandment or any of God's commandments written on the authority of God Exo 31:18

So lets go through this

Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.

The Greek word in Heb 4:8 is not about the Sabbath rest, the Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke 23:56. The commandment God said the Sabbath is on the seventh day Exo 20:10

There are two different rests Hebrews is referring to not one.

The Greek word used in verse 8 is not the Sabbath

katapauó: To cause to rest, to bring to a stop, to quiet
Original Word: καταπαύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: katapauó
Pronunciation: kat-ap-ow'-o
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap-ow'-o)
Definition: To cause to rest, to bring to a stop, to quiet
Meaning: (a) trans: I cause to rest, bring to rest; I cause to refrain, (b) intrans: I rest.

Word Origin: From the Greek preposition "kata" (meaning "down" or "against") and the verb "pauó" (meaning "to cease" or "to stop").

Hebrews 8 is a continuation of verse 7. Both are speaking about OT and there was no changing the Sabbath in the Old Testament. The rest being referred to was their rest into Canaan, it is also an allegory of us entering our rest into heaven at His Second Coming. Many did not enter due to disobedience Heb 4:6 Heb 4:11 and many did not keep the Sabbath Eze 20:13.

Verse 8 is continuing of the first verse in Hebrews

Heb 4:1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.

Strong's Lexicon
katapausis: Rest
Original Word: κατάπαυσις
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: katapausis
Pronunciation: kah-tah'-pow-sis
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis)
Definition: Rest
Meaning: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation.


And if we go to OT what this verse is referring to, the days of Joshua, we see the rest being referred to

Jos 1:13 “Remember the word which Moses the servant of the Lord commanded you, saying, ‘The Lord your God is giving you rest and is giving you this land.’ Which was flowing with milk and honey was a type of heaven Jos 5:6

So the "another day" of rest Joshua was speaking of was the land they were to take possession of which matches the Greek, nothing to do with the Sabbath commandment being changed. God said He wouldn't Psa 89:34 Deut 4:2 Mat 5:18-19

In verse 9 the rest in this verse is about the Sabbath

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning:
a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;

In Christ rest, there is no rebellion to Him or His commandments, including the Sabbath commandment Isa 48:18 no one receives Christ rest by being in rebellion to Him what this passage is really about Heb 3:7-8 God's people keep God's commandments His version, not mans. Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
Your interpretation makes zero sense given this verse. You have essentially plucked a single word out of a single verse and interpreted an entire eschatological view to fit that word.
Its best to let Scripture define Scripture. Pro 3:5-6
 
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Hebrews 4:9
"Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God’s people."

The "therefore" here means, "As a result." Hebrews 4:8 is the grounds for Hebrews 4:9.

So, you are not doing exegesis because you are not paying attention to the grammatical devices of the arguments.
 
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Hebrews 4:9
"Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God’s people."

The "therefore" here means, "As a result." Hebrews 4:8 is the grounds for Hebrews 4:9.

So, you are not doing exegesis because you are not paying attention to the grammatical devices of the arguments.
No, there are two rest in Hebrews as already demonstrated. Ves 8 goes with verse 7. Verse 9,10, 4 is about the Sabbath rest, which is on the seventh day thus saith the Lord Exo 20:10, both written and spoken by God Exo 31:18. Is there anyone greater than God? Not that I know of.

In verse 9 the rest in this verse is about the Sabbath

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning:
a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;

Than quote from Joshua where he said there was another Sabbath, since this is a reference to Joshua in the OT. I already demonstrated both through the Greek and through the testimony of Joshua Jos 1:13 what the rest means -their land v8. All you have presented is your opinion, which is not the same as Scripture.
 
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Than quote from Joshua where he said there was another Sabbath, since this is a reference to Joshua in the OT. I already demonstrated through the Greek and through the testimony of Joshua what the rest means in v8. All you have presented is your opinion, which is not the same as Scripture.

If this was a debate, you would be losing a point here because you did not address my argument at all. You just reverted back and doubled down to your original idea which I countered and you didn't respond to.

You only care about the Greek when it suits you. You have no care for the way the author of Hebrews actually argues for his point. The way the author of Hebrews argues for his point is completely ignored by you. You don't seem to understand that in the Bible, especially the NT, logical arguments are made to demonstrate their points. You are not paying attention to the flow of the argument.

Regarding what I quoted, you seem to be woefully ignorant of how the NT interprets the OT. For example, there is not a single verse about the Messiah "resurrecting" from the dead in the OT. The word "Resurrect" is not used in the OT to describe Christ's resurrection. Yet, Paul says that the scriptures testify to the Messiah's resurrection. This is because interpreting the NT in light of the OT is done by revelation, not piecemealing together a word here and there to fit your own view (which is what you are doing).
 
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If this was a debate, you would be losing a point here because you did not address my argument at all. You just reverted back and doubled down to your original idea which I countered and you didn't respond to.

You only care about the Greek when it suits you. You have no care for the way the author of Hebrews actually argues for his point. The way the author of Hebrews argues for his point is completely ignored by you. You don't seem to understand that in the Bible, especially the NT, logical arguments are made to demonstrate their points. You are not paying attention to the flow of the argument.

Regarding what I quoted, you seem to be woefully ignorant of how the NT interprets the OT. For example, there is not a single verse about the Messiah "resurrecting" from the dead in the OT. The word "Resurrect" is not used in the OT to describe Christ's resurrection. Yet, Paul says that the scriptures testify to the Messiah's resurrection. This is because interpreting the NT in light of the OT is done by revelation,
You haven't presented any biblical argument at all, you have only used your opinion. You posted a verse and than gave your opinion what it means. Our opinions are important to us but they are not Scripture. Everything I presented was from Scripture, because Scripture interprets Scripture., if we allow it to.
not piecemealing together a word here and there to fit your own view (which is what you are doing).
So the literal interpretation of the Greek words was piecemealing what the words mean?

This is not an easy passage to understand but if we look at the references in Joshua and David in the OT since thats is what is being referred to and make sure nothing ever contradicts God's own personal Testimony Exo 31:18 Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19 which the whole Bible is about, the Testimony of Jesus Christ yet when it comes to His own personal Testimony many do not believe. We need to realize there are two rests in Hebrews not one. It will hopefully emerge the true meaning of this passage, which is telling us we do not enter Christ rest our Promise Land by being disobedient to Him. Heb 4:6 Heb 4:11 Rev 22:14-15 In Christ rest no one is in rebellion to God's commandments Isa 48:18 why there is just peace and not unrest Rev 14:11-12

Hopefully others reading the posts will look at the references and prayerfully study to help understand the true meaning of these verses.

Take care
 
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because Scripture interprets Scripture.
No, this is a false claim you repeat again and again. In reality, context interprets Scripture.

The "Scripture interprets Scripture" is just a way how to get away with whatever idea you want to build up like a Lego from unrelated pieces.
 
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No, this is a false claim you repeat again and again. In reality, context interprets Scripture.

The "Scripture interprets Scripture" is just a way how to get away with whatever idea you want to build up like a Lego from unrelated pieces.
Than please prove me wrong through Scripture, not just your words. Anyone can have an opinion, but its not Scripture
 
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You haven't presented any biblical argument at all, you have only used your opinion. You posted a verse and than gave your opinion what it means. Our opinions are important to us but they are not Scripture. Everything I presented was from Scripture, because Scripture interprets Scripture., if we allow it to.

I presented an argument. Scripture makes arguments. It's called exegesis, you should try it sometime.

So the literal interpretation of the Greek words was piecemealing what the words mean?

What does ἄρα mean in Greek? That is what my argument is about.
 
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I presented an argument. Scripture makes arguments. It's called exegesis, you should try it sometime.



What does ἄρα mean in Greek? That is what my argument is about.
You only used your opinion, not once did you try to define what was being said through Joshua, or David in the OT since they are OT references or though the meaning of the literal greek words or though anything other than your opinion. You keep saying what I presented is wrong, but have not shown how it was wrong through Scripture. So I am going to assume you don’t have a Biblical argument, since this is the third time you responded just saying I am wrong because you say so, which is not the same as Scripture saying so. I pray you understand the difference.
 
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You only used your opinion, not once did you try to define what was being said through Joshua, or David in the OT since they are OT references or though the meaning of the literal greek words or though anything other than your opinion. You keep saying what I presented is wrong, but have not shown how it was wrong through Scripture. So I am going to assume you don’t have a Biblical argument, since this is the third time you responded just saying I am wrong because you say so, which is not the same as Scripture saying so. I pray you understand the difference.

What does ἄρα mean in Greek?
 
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Hebrews 4:9.
This is the rest in the Greek in Heb 4:9.

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning:
a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

Heb 4:4 takes us right back to the Sabbath commandment, which remains the people of God. Heb 4:9 because God's people obey God the way He said and allow Him to be God, and not follow the popular crowd and traditions of man Jesus warned us about Mat 15:3-14

Guess all will get sorted out soon enough
 
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This is the rest in the Greek in Heb 4:9

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning:
a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

I'm not asking about the word Sabbath in Greek. I am asking about the word ἄρα.
 
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