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At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

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Hi everyone,

I recently had a disagreement with someone who only watches CNN and MSNBC (Channels that seem to be biased against Trump). Throughout the conversation, they repeatedly insisted that Trump is a “bad person.” As we talked, it became clear that their view was largely shaped by the news sources they rely on—sources that often present only one side of the story. Interviews and coverage usually feature voices that already oppose Trump, and little effort is made to offer a fair or balanced view. This kind of repeated, one-sided storytelling can deeply influence how we think about someone.

As Christians, I believe we need to be very careful here. Scripture warns us not to bear false witness (Exodus 20:16), to avoid gossip and slander (Proverbs 10:18, James 4:11), and to speak truthfully. If there’s no real, clear evidence that a leader is doing wrong, I think we should either remain silent or even offer our support, because to speak against someone based on filtered or biased impressions could cause us to unintentionally spread slander.

That said, we also need to be careful on the other side. It's easy to say that if media builds up a leader, at least it's not gossip. And that’s true—praise isn't slander. But even then, we can't leave our discernment at the door. Just because a leader is being praised by the media station that we prefer doesn't mean they're righteous. History reminds us of this painfully.
The German people, for example, were also swept up by positive portrayals of Hitler. They listened to state-controlled media that praised him as a national saviour. Many supported him enthusiastically without asking deeper questions. Over time, that blind endorsement helped enable one of the greatest evils in history. So we need to recognise that the danger cuts both ways—biased negativity can lead to slander, and biased praise can lead to complicity.

So here’s the heart of the matter for me:
1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?


We live in a world full of information and opinions. As followers of Christ, we are called to seek truth, walk in humility, and avoid careless speech. That includes what we say about political leaders. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where this responsibility begins and how we can guard our hearts and words in this area.

Grace and peace,
Nathan
 

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Hi everyone,

I recently had a disagreement with someone who only watches CNN and MSNBC (Channels that seem to be biased against Trump). Throughout the conversation, they repeatedly insisted that Trump is a “bad person.” As we talked, it became clear that their view was largely shaped by the news sources they rely on—sources that often present only one side of the story. Interviews and coverage usually feature voices that already oppose Trump, and little effort is made to offer a fair or balanced view. This kind of repeated, one-sided storytelling can deeply influence how we think about someone.

As Christians, I believe we need to be very careful here. Scripture warns us not to bear false witness (Exodus 20:16), to avoid gossip and slander (Proverbs 10:18, James 4:11), and to speak truthfully. If there’s no real, clear evidence that a leader is doing wrong, I think we should either remain silent or even offer our support, because to speak against someone based on filtered or biased impressions could cause us to unintentionally spread slander.

That said, we also need to be careful on the other side. It's easy to say that if media builds up a leader, at least it's not gossip. And that’s true—praise isn't slander. But even then, we can't leave our discernment at the door. Just because a leader is being praised by the media station that we prefer doesn't mean they're righteous. History reminds us of this painfully.
The German people, for example, were also swept up by positive portrayals of Hitler. They listened to state-controlled media that praised him as a national saviour. Many supported him enthusiastically without asking deeper questions. Over time, that blind endorsement helped enable one of the greatest evils in history. So we need to recognise that the danger cuts both ways—biased negativity can lead to slander, and biased praise can lead to complicity.

So here’s the heart of the matter for me:
1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?


We live in a world full of information and opinions. As followers of Christ, we are called to seek truth, walk in humility, and avoid careless speech. That includes what we say about political leaders. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where this responsibility begins and how we can guard our hearts and words in this area.

Grace and peace,
Nathan
Great exhortation.
We become responsible for what we say, the instant we open our mouths.
 
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Hi everyone,

I recently had a disagreement with someone who only watches CNN and MSNBC (Channels that seem to be biased against Trump). Throughout the conversation, they repeatedly insisted that Trump is a “bad person.” As we talked, it became clear that their view was largely shaped by the news sources they rely on—sources that often present only one side of the story. Interviews and coverage usually feature voices that already oppose Trump, and little effort is made to offer a fair or balanced view. This kind of repeated, one-sided storytelling can deeply influence how we think about someone.

As Christians, I believe we need to be very careful here. Scripture warns us not to bear false witness (Exodus 20:16), to avoid gossip and slander (Proverbs 10:18, James 4:11), and to speak truthfully. If there’s no real, clear evidence that a leader is doing wrong, I think we should either remain silent or even offer our support, because to speak against someone based on filtered or biased impressions could cause us to unintentionally spread slander.

That said, we also need to be careful on the other side. It's easy to say that if media builds up a leader, at least it's not gossip. And that’s true—praise isn't slander. But even then, we can't leave our discernment at the door. Just because a leader is being praised by the media station that we prefer doesn't mean they're righteous. History reminds us of this painfully.
The German people, for example, were also swept up by positive portrayals of Hitler. They listened to state-controlled media that praised him as a national saviour. Many supported him enthusiastically without asking deeper questions. Over time, that blind endorsement helped enable one of the greatest evils in history. So we need to recognise that the danger cuts both ways—biased negativity can lead to slander, and biased praise can lead to complicity.

So here’s the heart of the matter for me:
1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?


We live in a world full of information and opinions. As followers of Christ, we are called to seek truth, walk in humility, and avoid careless speech. That includes what we say about political leaders. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where this responsibility begins and how we can guard our hearts and words in this area.

Grace and peace,
Nathan
I find it interesting that you say this about Trump but did you do the same when Conservative news was lying about Biden over the past few years
 
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Hi everyone,

I recently had a disagreement with someone who only watches CNN and MSNBC (Channels that seem to be biased against Trump). Throughout the conversation, they repeatedly insisted that Trump is a “bad person.” As we talked, it became clear that their view was largely shaped by the news sources they rely on—sources that often present only one side of the story. Interviews and coverage usually feature voices that already oppose Trump, and little effort is made to offer a fair or balanced view. This kind of repeated, one-sided storytelling can deeply influence how we think about someone.

As Christians, I believe we need to be very careful here. Scripture warns us not to bear false witness (Exodus 20:16), to avoid gossip and slander (Proverbs 10:18, James 4:11), and to speak truthfully. If there’s no real, clear evidence that a leader is doing wrong, I think we should either remain silent or even offer our support, because to speak against someone based on filtered or biased impressions could cause us to unintentionally spread slander.

That said, we also need to be careful on the other side. It's easy to say that if media builds up a leader, at least it's not gossip. And that’s true—praise isn't slander. But even then, we can't leave our discernment at the door. Just because a leader is being praised by the media station that we prefer doesn't mean they're righteous. History reminds us of this painfully.
The German people, for example, were also swept up by positive portrayals of Hitler. They listened to state-controlled media that praised him as a national saviour. Many supported him enthusiastically without asking deeper questions. Over time, that blind endorsement helped enable one of the greatest evils in history. So we need to recognise that the danger cuts both ways—biased negativity can lead to slander, and biased praise can lead to complicity.

So here’s the heart of the matter for me:
1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?


We live in a world full of information and opinions. As followers of Christ, we are called to seek truth, walk in humility, and avoid careless speech. That includes what we say about political leaders. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where this responsibility begins and how we can guard our hearts and words in this area.

Grace and peace,
Nathan
CNN and MSNBC contain numerous videos of the president-- both full length speeches, press conferences, clips, and meetings.
I could wear noise canceling headphones for all the commentary and arrive at the same conclusion. He practices extortion and threats to get his way. He is verbally and psychologically abusive. He is ignorant of the law and the Constitution. He lies as frequently as other people blink.
His own words, gestures, and behavior show us what kind of human being he is.
 
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1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
Hi Nathan, if we're not doing so now, we should start to do so immediately, IMHO. What advantage could there be in waiting? (for a Christian, anyway)

2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?
Well, as soon as we begin to spread them. That's why I think that it's best to name our sources, especially if we aren't absolutely sure that what we're saying is 100% true.

It would also help to tell people when we aren't absolutely sure (even or perhaps especially if we want the information that we've been told to be true ;)).

One thing that I've found is that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is :preach:

We live in a world full of information and opinions. As followers of Christ, we are called to seek truth, walk in humility, and avoid careless speech. That includes what we say about political leaders. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where this responsibility begins and how we can guard our hearts and words in this area.
I'd say that we need to be as diligent as we can be to find out what the truth really is before we speak, and that we need to be honest and tell others when we're not positive that the information that we're sharing with them is completely true.

That is easier said than done in our modern world of disinformation, where actual truth doesn't seem to matter much anymore.

Also, since our common enemy is the principal source of attacks against the truth, we also need to remember who the battle is really against, and how, then, we are to fight it .. e.g. Ephesians 6:10-17.

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - we always need to remember and consider what is said to us about being in subjection to our governing authorities/political leaders in the Bible (whenever possible), even when we don't like system of government and/or the leaders who are in charge .. e.g. Romans 13:1-7; 1 Timothy 2:1-2; 1 Peter 2:13-17.
 
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I find it interesting that you say this about Trump but did you do the same when Conservative news was lying about Biden over the past few years
I need to point out that your comment misrepresents me. You said: “I find it interesting that you say this about Trump but did you do the same when Conservative news was lying about Biden over the past few years?” But I haven’t said anything about Biden—positively or negatively. My post wasn't a defence of Trump as a person, nor was it a partisan statement. It was a broader concern about how media bias—of any kind—can shape our thinking in ways that lead us into slander or false witness, especially when we fail to discern truth for ourselves.

What I am saying is this: if we’re going to speak against a leader, whether Trump, Biden, or anyone else, we need to ensure we’re not simply repeating a narrative fed to us by media outlets that may have their own agenda. That principle applies across the board—left or right.

So, let’s not twist what was actually said. I’m raising a question about personal responsibility and the Christian obligation to guard our words, especially when it comes to public figures. That remains true no matter who the leader is.

I ask that you keep what I have said accurate and do not twist it.

CNN and MSNBC contain numerous videos of the president-- both full length speeches, press conferences, clips, and meetings.
I could wear noise canceling headphones for all the commentary and arrive at the same conclusion. He practices extortion and threats to get his way. He is verbally and psychologically abusive. He is ignorant of the law and the Constitution. He lies as frequently as other people blink.
His own words, gestures, and behavior show us what kind of human being he is.
I hope you are praying for him if you are thinking this way.
But at what point do we become slanderers for saying these things against the leaders put in place over us?
Well, as soon as we begin to spread them. That's why I think that it's best to name our sources, especially if we aren't absolutely sure that what we're saying is 100% true.

It would also help to tell people when we aren't absolutely sure (even or perhaps especially if we want the information that we've been told to be true ;)).

One thing that I've found is that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is :preach:
I agree that naming our sources is important. But the problem runs deeper. When we repeatedly listen to biased perspectives, over time we can start to absorb those views as if they were facts. At that point, even if we name the source, it doesn’t change the reality that we may be spreading misinformation without realising it. In those cases, citing a source doesn’t excuse us from the responsibility of discernment—it simply highlights how easily we can be shaped by partial truths or opinions of others.
p.s. - we always need to remember and consider what is said to us about being in subjection to our governing authorities/political leaders in the Bible (whenever possible), even when we don't like system of government and/or the leaders who are in charge .. e.g. Romans 13:1-7; 1 Timothy 2:1-2; 1 Peter 2:13-17.
They are all good verses that we should take not of.
This was part of the reason I posted this thread. To make people think about the words they speak and how some words can show disrespect for those God has put in place. Romans 13:1-2 is a very good verse regarding this.
Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore, whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
 
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Hi everyone,

I recently had a disagreement with someone who only watches CNN and MSNBC (Channels that seem to be biased against Trump). Throughout the conversation, they repeatedly insisted that Trump is a “bad person.” As we talked, it became clear that their view was largely shaped by the news sources they rely on—sources that often present only one side of the story. Interviews and coverage usually feature voices that already oppose Trump, and little effort is made to offer a fair or balanced view. This kind of repeated, one-sided storytelling can deeply influence how we think about someone.

As Christians, I believe we need to be very careful here. Scripture warns us not to bear false witness (Exodus 20:16), to avoid gossip and slander (Proverbs 10:18, James 4:11), and to speak truthfully. If there’s no real, clear evidence that a leader is doing wrong, I think we should either remain silent or even offer our support, because to speak against someone based on filtered or biased impressions could cause us to unintentionally spread slander.

That said, we also need to be careful on the other side. It's easy to say that if media builds up a leader, at least it's not gossip. And that’s true—praise isn't slander. But even then, we can't leave our discernment at the door. Just because a leader is being praised by the media station that we prefer doesn't mean they're righteous. History reminds us of this painfully.
The German people, for example, were also swept up by positive portrayals of Hitler. They listened to state-controlled media that praised him as a national saviour. Many supported him enthusiastically without asking deeper questions. Over time, that blind endorsement helped enable one of the greatest evils in history. So we need to recognise that the danger cuts both ways—biased negativity can lead to slander, and biased praise can lead to complicity.

So here’s the heart of the matter for me:
1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?


We live in a world full of information and opinions. As followers of Christ, we are called to seek truth, walk in humility, and avoid careless speech. That includes what we say about political leaders. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where this responsibility begins and how we can guard our hearts and words in this area.

Grace and peace,
Nathan
Great topic and one I have been thinking about. Your points are all valid though perhaps your criteria to speak is more restrictive.
"In his iconic Gettysburg Address, Abraham Lincoln uttered the now-famous quote, "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth." These words encapsulate the essence of democracy and serve as a reminder of the fundamental principle on which nations are built: the power and authority lie with the citizens." Abraham Lincoln: 'Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.' — The Socratic Method

This is so unlike the many scriptures that imply obedience to the King. Even the US government is divided into branches. Thus, the President is not a King, and thus can and should be subject to constructive criticism even opinions are reasonable speech. Most opinions or preferences that people have too are typically supported by other members in authority. This could be a Governor, The Supreme Court, even a District court judge, or any member of Congress or in some cases a Bureaucrat. Some in government themselves defy other branches. Currently, a Federal District Court does have legal ramifications over what a law and ultimately policy may entail. This irritates many who think power is being usurped. However, until the higher courts rule, the district court still has some power. When the courts especially, the Supreme Court is defied by another branch, it is a constitutional crisis.

In all things, I think that any U.S. citizen should follow the bible first, then the Constitution over any specific leader. However, the caveat is that it is NOT our own interpretation, but rather the highest ruling court at the time.
If one thinks the Supreme Court is wrong that too is subject to change. Congress could be pressured to do something, an amendment can be made, and a future court may overturn that decision as well. Some might also suggest violence as a defense, but that would be rare and up to an individual's Christian conscience.
Ultimately it may be your duty to speak up for the betterment of society. Free speech, though not absolute, is a right afforded to all Americans.

I would say our duties to God are more cumbersome in speech than what the U.S. government allows. We are not to lie, mislead, deceive or have any unwholesome word proceed out of our mouth. We have a conscience and the the Holy Spirit to guide us and we are judged for every word that is spoken. As our duty to God it is important to tame our tongue, to not curse, to not speak evil of any man.

Titus 3:2-3 (KJV)
2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

I should mention that gossip is about "Gossip is often defined as sharing information about someone who is not present, typically without confirmation of its truth and often intended to harm their reputation."

I have a great friend who will not allow anyone to speak about another without that person being present. That is a bit extreme but actually better to be silent than to run into trouble. In politics there is much being said that is unknown but as it is about policies or the government and not a person, thus I do not think it is gossip. Opinion too is not gossip. If I say I do not think tariffs will help America that is an opinion. If your opinion contradicts the President I do not see a problem biblically. There are many in power that agree with that. Silence when government goes wrong can be as bad or worse than any opinion. As you should know many of the things government leaders say are opinion or even false. The idea that leaders are required to lie to advance the interest of the government is embedded in many politicians. Thus, the term "noble" lie. Sadly, it is what they think is noble. Some things about Covid were handled this way.

Speech that causes division in the church is also wrong. In politics though lots of speech is divisive. One might consider the purpose though. "Divisive people tend to draw undue attention to themselves, serving their appetites for recognition." How To Spot Divisive Speech, Both In Yourself And Others

If self interest, greed, lust, or something outside of love your neighbor is present you probably should remain silent.

Still, do you have an obligation to speak up on occasions? YES All sourced from Bible Verses About Justice - Justice in the Bible- Shared Hope International

“Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute,” (Psalm 82:3).
“Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, and please the widow’s cause,” (Isaiah 1:17).
“He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?” (Micah 6:8).
“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others,” (Luke 11:42).

These scriptures show that you have an obligation. As a citizen you should know policies and what they do. For instance, few may think that putting ethanol in your car promotes starvation. Food vs. Fuel: Diversion of Crops Could Cause More Hunger - PMC
To me that is bad policy. I rarely speak about it because my opinion does not matter much but I do try to always use pure gas whenever possible.

1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
Never blindly trust especially news or government. You don't have time to discern or research everything, but if you have a check in the spirit, look for reasons why.

Micah 7:5 (KJV)
5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.

2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?
Politics is a social science where science is dependent on probabilities. it is never exact and rarely if ever is anything proven, because all humans may behave differently and no test can be generalized to "prove" it. So lies are hard to discover if they are based on behavior. Much of what you get is opinions. Having some knowledge helps. The majority opinion is not always right though. Gossip in politics about a person should be avoided unless there is at least some evidence. Today I wrote elsewhere that foriegn policy appeasement switched from Ukraine to Russia under Trump. In a sense I believe that is truthful but maybe I should not have said it? Later, if I find out that Trump gave Ukraine more aid for a rare earth deal, then I probably was wrong. It is not libel though. No one can be sued. I just looked it up and there are opinions about this on both sides. The Guardian calls Trump, Putin's stooge. Being Putin’s stooge won’t win Trump a peace prize. The Order of Lenin, though, is in the bag | Simon Tisdall
Everyone should adjust their opinions as they have information. Generally, I use qualifiers too. Something like " It seems Trump appeases Russia in regards to the Ukraine conflict.

A better example would be on Biden's mental health.
Americans should have demanded more information and press conferences. Any lack of honesty could harm the nation. Still, it was gossip because most of us could not make a definitive diagnosis based on what information was public at the time.

To sum up, politics and words are hard because everyone has their own biases. The best case is to be objective and not too subjective in what you say. It seems fine to state your opinion especially if you are not doing it for your own self-interest or any party. Never trust any source except God. You never know what is behind the curtain of man's heart. Sadly it is deceitful, who can know? (paraphrase Jer: 17:9)
 
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If there’s no real, clear evidence that a leader is doing wrong, I think we should either remain silent or even offer our support
Have you tried to read his own "Truth" Social posts? Attacking free press, judges, Congressmen, former US presidents, Democrats, liberals, calling a huge group of people murderers etc.

Should you stay silent or even support such divisive political culture from the head of the US?

An example:
The Democrats are really out of control. They have lost everything, especially their minds! These Radical Left Lunatics are into the “Impeachment thing” again. They have already got two “No Name,” little respected Congressmen, total Whackjobs both...These are total LOWLIFES, who hate our Country...
 
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Leftists own most main stream media, here in the south as well, and imo, if there is someone 'election meddling' is them.
Always like the op said telling one side of the story.
 
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Have you tried to read his own "Truth" Social posts? Attacking free press, judges, Congressmen, former US presidents, Democrats, liberals, calling a huge group of people murderers etc.

Should you stay silent or even support such divisive political culture from the head of the US?

An example:
The Democrats are really out of control. They have lost everything, especially their minds! These Radical Left Lunatics are into the “Impeachment thing” again. They have already got two “No Name,” little respected Congressmen, total Whackjobs both...These are total LOWLIFES, who hate our Country...
I would add that Truth Social is about half owned by Trump, (worth pver 2 billion) though in a trust as he is President. It is interesting that Trump does drive new users to Truth Social. An example while President he told Truth Social followers to buy stocks in the morning, then that day later Trump announced a 90 day pause on tariffs. Trump told investors to 'buy' on social media hours before his tariff pause rose stocks, raising questions about manipulation
Meanwhile during all of this Trump's trust is allegedly selling some of his stock. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/trump-truth-social-stock We will know more in the next quarterly report. We do know he registered to have the ability to sell, though he said last year he would not be selling. Trump Jr manages the trust too. I would stay silent but I think Americans need to learn more.
 
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I need to point out that your comment misrepresents me. You said: “I find it interesting that you say this about Trump but did you do the same when Conservative news was lying about Biden over the past few years?” But I haven’t said anything about Biden—positively or negatively. My post wasn't a defence of Trump as a person, nor was it a partisan statement. It was a broader concern about how media bias—of any kind—can shape our thinking in ways that lead us into slander or false witness, especially when we fail to discern truth for ourselves.

What I am saying is this: if we’re going to speak against a leader, whether Trump, Biden, or anyone else, we need to ensure we’re not simply repeating a narrative fed to us by media outlets that may have their own agenda. That principle applies across the board—left or right.

So, let’s not twist what was actually said. I’m raising a question about personal responsibility and the Christian obligation to guard our words, especially when it comes to public figures. That remains true no matter who the leader is.

I ask that you keep what I have said accurate and do not twist it.
I need to point out that my comment didn't misrepresent anything. It was a question because you went on about news sources concerning Trump.

I asked you "did you do the same when Conservative news was lying about Biden over the past few years?”
 
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if we’re going to speak against a leader, whether Trump, Biden, or anyone else, we need to ensure we’re not simply repeating a narrative fed to us by media outlets that may have their own agenda. That principle applies across the board—left or right.
( My thoughts) .....
What if we simply just listen to the very words that come out of a leaders mouth.
Is this not enough to determine the moral character of that person, to judge their actions for or against humanity, to form a solid opinion of that person and share that opinion? I dare say yes, it is enough.
That being said, what do we do with news pundits? The people who provide analysis, interpretation, and opinion on current events and who unfortunately sway the audience to their understanding. This is where the danger of misinformation begins. From the days of Rush Limbaugh to today's Rachel Maddow, the vast pool of pundits over the years have heavily influenced society. So how do we protect ourselves from potential propaganda? We decipher and discern what is a truth and what is a lie. This takes time , research and much patience. We don't have to shut out information, we need to be balanced in finding truth. As Christians we can find that truth. If it is not loving, it is not from our Father.
Blessings
 
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Maria, it's easy to do with Trump...
But there are politicians with his dangerous ideas who are slicker and more polished.
He talks like a buffoonish caricature so a kindergartener could see through him.
Others could use some analysis.
 
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Maria, it's easy to do with Trump...
But there are politicians with his dangerous ideas who are slicker and more polished.
He talks like a buffoonish caricature so a kindergartener could see through him.
Others could use some analysis.
Ah... that's easy to figure out, birds of a feather flock together!
 
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An example while President he told Truth Social followers to buy stocks in the morning, then that day later Trump announced a 90 day pause on tariffs. Trump told investors to 'buy' on social media hours before his tariff pause rose stocks, raising questions about manipulation
It was the same day, but to defend Trump, the article massages the brain too much. At least he didn't keep it a secret like Pelosi and the rest of Congress—the first insider trader to broadcast to the world to buy the dip. sarcasm

I do think it is the buy the dip mentality because only a few have negotiated, but the elephant China hasn't agreed, and the market is still going up.

“THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT,” he wrote on his social media platform Truth Social at 9:37 a.m.

Stocks have been on a slide since February and the April 2 shock because (did he short?) of his back-and-forth before the 90-day pause; many economists were worried about the economic uncertainty, and Trump was pressured by the market and the globe for his extremism, but the 90 days gave countries time to negotiate.

He didn't make this decision to make money on stocks. If he had wouldn't he and every Republican be in the news for insider trading like Pelosi was accused of a couple of years ago? Something would have come out by now in Breaking News.
 
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It was the same day, but to defend Trump, the article massages the brain too much. At least he didn't keep it a secret like Pelosi and the rest of Congress—the first insider trader to broadcast to the world to buy the dip. sarcasm

I do think it is the buy the dip mentality because only a few have negotiated, but the elephant China hasn't agreed, and the market is still going up.

“THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT,” he wrote on his social media platform Truth Social at 9:37 a.m.

Stocks have been on a slide since February and the April 2 shock because (did he short?) of his back-and-forth before the 90-day pause; many economists were worried about the economic uncertainty, and Trump was pressured by the market and the globe for his extremism, but the 90 days gave countries time to negotiate.

He didn't make this decision to make money on stocks. If he had wouldn't he and every Republican be in the news for insider trading like Pelosi was accused of a couple of years ago? Something would have come out by now in Breaking News.
True, he did not keep it a secret and yes others in Congress have been known to use the stock market to their advantage. Sadly, the Stock Act signed by Obama seems unclear legally as to whether it applies to Congress. Can Members of Congress Engage in Insider Trading?
We will not know if Trump benefitted at all financially until his trust is required to report those transactions. Trump's stake in DJT stock was up over 400 million that same day he told everyone to buy. Apparently he then signed the post: DJT. The article quoted said it was unclear if Trump meant DJT stock or the market in general and that Trump never clarified which it was. I am not saying or even implying that this was illegal, just unusual.
 
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1. When does it become our responsibility to discern truth for ourselves and stop blindly trusting what we’re told,- whether that message is for or against a leader?
I believe it is our responsibility to seek the truth in all matters that affect us and especially so where they concern our leaders, whether political or religious. I believe that we must call out sin wherever we see it but we can't judge people. We should never blindly trust what we are told by our leaders, the media, or the from the pulpit.
2. And if the media we're listening to is constantly negative about a leader, at what point do we become responsible for spreading lies, slander or gossip?
If the only media we are listening to either unanimously praises or vilifies a particular leader, then I believe it's time to broaden one's horizons and study thoroughly both sides of each individual question to find the truth.
 
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I think it's junk personally, it's nothing compared to META in my opinion, even though I'm not on social media anymore.
It's metrics are horrible. A 6 billion dollar company with only 3.6 million in revenue per quarter and losses. 712 million in cash though so it can last awhile. The beta is over 5. The last two times it started to go down they announced some new initiate. First, on some bitcoin initiative, then on some kind of financial or trading platform. Trump was fortunate in this idea though. making a cool 2 or 3 billion could nearly match all his real estate earnings of a lifetime.
 
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I recently had a disagreement with someone who only watches CNN and MSNBC (Channels that seem to be biased against Trump). Throughout the conversation, they repeatedly insisted that Trump is a “bad person.” As we talked, it became clear that their view was largely shaped by the news sources they rely on—sources that often present only one side of the story. Interviews and coverage usually feature voices that already oppose Trump, and little effort is made to offer a fair or balanced view. This kind of repeated, one-sided storytelling can deeply influence how we think about someone.
I used to be a right-wing nut, and now that I have grandkids, my focus is no longer on myself but on them. I also have not seen things improve in the last 30 years for Americans living with this political climate. News media have divided people to the point of extremism, and with this two-party system, you'll always have this division. I can relate to end-time prophecy, and we will eventually destroy ourselves as pictured in Revelation. Our focus is on flesh and blood but not the principalites behind it.

With all this said, it's not wrong to critique any government official, but what we have today is tribalism. We have a debt crisis coming, and it'll affect everyone. We have issues with national security, with our dependence on China, which was known a long time ago, but the media distracted everyone with social issues. The only time our government can come together is during a crisis, but the next one may be too late.
 
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